Well yes but for the average punter it’s not good on the second day of openingWell, every train eastbound is for Abbey Wood and every train westbound is non-stop to Paddington. If you've just missed one then the maximum wait is 5 minutes.
Well yes but for the average punter it’s not good on the second day of openingWell, every train eastbound is for Abbey Wood and every train westbound is non-stop to Paddington. If you've just missed one then the maximum wait is 5 minutes.
Nothing is perfect and in the grand scheme of things, a failure of indicators with such a simple service and plenty of staff around is pretty trivial. It would have been made quite obvious to the average punter exactly what they needed to know.Well yes but for the average punter it’s not good on the second day of opening
Given how long the platforms are (based upon the existing entrance at Bond St LU and the new Crossrail ticket hall on Dean St) I can well imagine if there was a Crossrail station at Oxford Circus it would almost be a continuous platform Chicago style!Isn’t that also one of the reasons they swerved Oxford Circus, because interchange or additional entry/exits there would have overwhelmed the existing station. So the idea is that if you want that area you actually use the Hanover Square exit and walk a block or two.
Is it? I have to say I use it quite a few times a week and I haven’t noticed!not helped by Woolwich Arsenal station being redeveloped at the moment)
Which route did you take Bakerloo>EL? Via Paddington?Echoing the previous comments about it not being as useful for interchanging journeys, I've concluded my usual journey of Marylebone > Liv St is either almost exactly the same as or if not a few minutes slower going Bakerloo > EL over walking to Baker St for the Met. Bakerloo onto the Elizabeth line is quite the contrast however!
I do enjoy his videos, like the dead-pan style he goes for, sticking to the facts, and not putting himself in the front of the camera, leaving the subject the focus.Jago Hazard's vid has arrived, must be one of the first transport Youtubers to get their video edited and uploaded
I do enjoy his videos, like the dead-pan style he goes for, sticking to the facts, and not putting himself in the front of the camera, leaving the subject the focus.
Yep, it's actually a nice journey as the Bakerloo is frequent and the the Bakerloo > EL tunnel, while it feels a long walk, is almost at the same depth so is fairly quick. My Liv st departure is only every 15 mins though so as nice as it is, I will have to choose catching the earlier connection most days.Which route did you take Bakerloo>EL? Via Paddington?
It did seem rather leisurely yesterday morning, went from Liverpool Street to Paddington. Unfortunately some of the time saved for me was used as it's the wrong side of Paddington station for me but it is a major help for meMy first exposure to the EL was yesterday morning when my train pulled into Liverpool St and the PA system on the train announced that I could connect with it.
Went on it later in the day 17:07, Liverpool St to Paddington and then straight back. Loved it but those dwell times are painful, it feels like one is losing the advantage of using it.
Onwards to the real opening whenever that may be.
The interchange passage to the Northern Line at the Moorgate end is ridiculous, I can't see many people fancying using that 2x daily. It's even more awkward if you want to get on the GN services as you just end up walking along the Northern Line platforms. Oh well, I appreciate it's the best they could do in the space.
I agree with this and I’d love to see what route it actually takes on a map. It’s not just the length of the tunnel but the 3 steep sets of stairs you then have to climb before you get to the Northern line platforms.
It’s also a bit creepy, there was barely anyone using it when I went through and was dead silent. Could do with piping some music down there or something.
I agree with this and I’d love to see what route it actually takes on a map. It’s not just the length of the tunnel but the 3 steep sets of stairs you then have to climb before you get to the Northern line platforms.
It’s also a bit creepy, there was barely anyone using it when I went through and was dead silent. Could do with piping some music down there or something.
Absolutely! Silence is golden.Please no piped music! It's a modern scourge!
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Absolutely! Silence is golden.
Now if you're in to near-silent tunnels in large public transport infrastructure, do the walk from Heathrow Terminal 5C in to B and A.
Real shame that 4G couldn't be provided, hope it won't be a huge wait to fix it. Also felt like spotty WiFi in the stations too but I wasn't paying a huge amount of attention so could have got that wrong. Is there any indication of when 4G will be provided in the tunnels?
Liverpool street entrance near central line did feel bizarrely claustrophobic given how massive all the rest of the station is. I was also on it with one of the escalators out of service and it was really backing up. I imagine with time the other entrance will get used more which may shift the load but given loadings I imagine are still down a bit on what they could be I can see that becoming a real pinch point.
Absolutely! Silence is golden.
Now if you're in to near-silent tunnels in large public transport infrastructure, do the walk from Heathrow Terminal 5C in to B and A.
Mine too. The left handrail on the down escalator at Liverpool Street was filthy. I thought it was oil at first but it rubbed off fairly easily so it can't have been.My hands ended up covered in black stuff after pottering about for an hour or so. Not sure from which surfaces. Maybe escalator handrail rubber.
Tried out the Lift from EL to TL southbound at Farringdon and that worked really well. There are actually 2 lifts here. For Thameslink northbound, the escalator route goes via the TL platforms so that's much easier, and there's no direct lift to Northbound platforms from EL.No, you can go up from the southbound T/L and over the tracks and down past the northbound T/L all within the gateline. (Within he south side entrance and ticket hall.)
had one this morning, even has the new route map for the Elizibeth line on itHave any 315s run on the Shenfield branch this week or are they all finally withdrawn?
It amuses me to think that the 315s could now potentially count as Elizabeth Line stock.
Why do they still have 315s? Since Paddington to Whitechapel is running at half its intended frequency, they must have spare 345s sitting around rusting.Have any 315s run on the Shenfield branch this week or are they all finally withdrawn?
It amuses me to think that the 315s could now potentially count as Elizabeth Line stock.