lord rathmore
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OHE seems to do a great job in Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Italy, etc. Does seem that most of the 70s,80s & 90s electrification here was done to a tight budget.
Just shows most of it missing (normal in these cases)So does the picture evidence confirm that the Pan was incorrectly maintained on the 802 or does it just show it as damaged due to the incident? If incorrectly maintained, I presume no quality of OHLE would have prevented yesterdays events
Please explain?Who is hettige landed with the delay minutes for this one, Hitachi?
Please explain?
The TOC. Hitachi cannot be attributed minutes.Apologies. That is absolutely awful
I meant to say, who gets landed with the delay minutes for this? Will it ultimately be Hitachi?
Maybe Hitachi (and other rolling stock suppliers) take out liability insurance for operating issues attributed to failures during testing that is under their control.Apologies. That is absolutely awful
I meant to say, who gets landed with the delay minutes for this? Will it ultimately be Hitachi?
I suppose that they are dynamically different from straight conductor wiring in that they induce disturbances in pantograph/wiring movement so represent a more likely failure point.Portal wiring is not a panacea for dewirements.
The original WCML wiring is all portals, but still suffers 4-track closures at times.
The culprit is often neutral sections which seem specially vulnerable. ...
Well that may be true for the OLE over the track on which train in question was running on, but the other three lines might not have been totally trashed at the same time. The probelm is that with headspans, the damage to one of the lines upsets the tensions across the tracks holding the other lines in registration. The next train that comes along is then running under faulty OLE and liable to pull it's own wiring down.So does the picture evidence confirm that the Pan was incorrectly maintained on the 802 or does it just show it as damaged due to the incident? If incorrectly maintained, I presume no quality of OHLE would have prevented yesterdays events
I'm sure that OLE does fail in other countries, but it is hardly headline news in the UK. I can just imagine the reactions from most UK TV viewers to a report on the 10:00 news about thousands of Munich commuters being late home because of a dewirement.OHE seems to do a great job in Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Italy, etc. Does seem that most of the 70s,80s & 90s electrification here was done to a tight budget.
The TOC. Hitachi cannot be attributed minutes.
Good point. The train operator was GBRf.The 802 wasn’t being operated by GWR - the unit in question has yet to be commissioned into the GWR fleet.
The TOC. Hitachi cannot be attributed minutes.
I just hope that the TV people weren't filming 'Paddington' again - it's already a terribly boring and repetitive programme routinely showing just how many times there are problems out to Reading !!
Both WCML and GWML wiring can be monitored en route by 390/80x trains.
Last night one my way home from Marlow, had to get the 4 bus to Slough, then the 81 bus then h4 bus to Heathrow, then the Piccadilly and Circle line to Victoria.
This morning the same journey but in reverse.
Maybe there was a better route?
There are often train testing and commissioning track access agreements with their own ‘simplified’ performance regime. Sound like this one won’t (directly) involve GWR.Good point. The train operator was GBRf.
By that example, who foots the bill every time a Class 91 brings down the wires between Newark and Retford? I am sure it's not BRELWhy not? Hitachi have their own people in the ICC at Swindon including someone dealing with Delay Attribution. As already mentioned there was no TOC involvement in this.
Last night one my way home from Marlow, had to get the 4 bus to Slough, then the 81 bus then h4 bus to Heathrow, then the Piccadilly and Circle line to Victoria.
This morning the same journey but in reverse.
Maybe there was a better route?
By that example, who foots the bill every time a Class 91 brings down the wires between Newark and Retford? I am sure it's not BREL
the 387s have got a "pan cam" so presumably that's what LNW-GW is referring to.
By that example, who foots the bill every time a Class 91 brings down the wires between Newark and Retford? I am sure it's not BREL
Ah, but a) BREL is now part of Bombardier and b) the 91s were a GEC-Alsthom build; they sub-contracted BREL for assembly. So perhaps “Megafuss” should be going after Alstom!But BREL have:
a) handed over the product to the operator
b) ceased to exist