East Midlands Railway livery and station branding

[raetiamann]

I'd say a the performance is better than a 222. I even had to ease right down on the power going up Sharnbrook. Maybe the transmission is more efficient than 222's? Braking seems superior and more positive too. I was using my regular 222 braking points in low brake, and still having to take it off. Handling wise overall i'll give them 10/10. Spend a bit of time and money ironing out some glitches, and there are a few annoying glitches, and you'd have a great train.

Encouraging comments there. Let's hope the EP team can sort the issues.

 

[Trainfan2019]

170420 was at Crewe today. Looks impressive.

Realtime Trains - 5Z01 0854 Etches Park Sdgs to Crewe

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[OTRail]

Something very interesting was found on 222001’s door seat...

 

[Trainfan2019]

Something very interesting was found on 222001’s door seat...

What was it that was found?

 

[CR165022]

What was it that was found?

Looks like a new moquette?

 

[OTRail]

Looks like a new moquette?

Correct!

 

[Trainfan2019]

Ah yes, I should have realised that . It makes me think of West Midlands Trains colours for some reason.

 

[Domh245]

Is it a new covering though, or a very faded original MML one?

Picture of original standard class interior

The diamond pattern and flecks of orange just seem too much of a coincidence!

 

[221101 Voyager]

Is it a new covering though, or a very faded original MML one?

Picture of original standard class interior

The diamond pattern and flecks of orange just seem too much of a coincidence!

I think you are right, as it does indeed look very faded! It won't be long before we see EMR's new moquette as either the 360 or 170 will go for a refurb at some point within 2021 I would imagine.

 

[OTRail]

Is it a new covering though, or a very faded original MML one?

Picture of original standard class interior

The diamond pattern and flecks of orange just seem too much of a coincidence!

Could very well be faded MML, but looked very much close to the colour scheme of EMR’s proposed interior so thought it’d be replacing a worn out EMT one.

 

[Domh245]

Could very well be faded MML, but looked very much close to the colour scheme of EMR’s proposed interior so thought it’d be replacing a worn out EMT one.

I thought that as well at first, but I doubt that they'd debut the new seat covering on the tip up seats! Far more likely to be that they replaced a worn out one with an original one that they found within the depths of the spares department at Etches Park, or quite possibly the original one!

That said, the EMR all-purple interior is perhaps something of a back to the future, I'd forgotten just how purple the interiors were originally whilst looking this all up

 

[Speedbird96]

Correct!

Nope, it's the original MML interior moquette.

 

[OTRail]

Yeah the fade caught me off guard! Cheers mate

 

[D_MTrains]

Found this at Kettering station recently, is anyone aware of any other EMT signage/branding still present on the network? I am generally curious.

 

[OTRail]

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Found this at Kettering station recently, is anyone aware of any other EMT signage/branding still present on the network? I am generally curious.

Not on a station but 222001 still has EMT branding on the café bar.

 

[Roast Veg]

All of the dog water bowls "feeling fur-stay" we're EMT branded last I saw.

 

[_toommm_]

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Is this anything of interest? A 170 perhaps?

 

[Kneedown]

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Is this anything of interest? A 170 perhaps?

Could be a 180. I believe one is due back from Crofton tonight.

 

[LowLevel]

I believe 170418 is at Holbeck rather than Crofton.

 

[OTRail]

Could be a 180. I believe one is due back from Crofton tonight.

180110 I believe - I think it went up the other week for an engine replacement.

In other related news 180111 went up to Doncaster the other week (not sure if it was mentioned on here). Does anyone know why?

 

[Kneedown]

180110 I believe - I think it went up the other week for an engine replacement.

In other related news 180111 went up to Doncaster the other week (not sure if it was mentioned on here). Does anyone know why?

110 and 109 were in the shed at Etches all day yesterday. 113 was there today so I presume it was that. No sign of 111 so I presume that's up at Crofton.
I imagine that certain work still needs to be undertaken there at present. Probably engine related and heavy duty maintenance, with simpler things being done at Etches.

 

[OTRail]

Ah ok, thank you! I can imagine EMR is doing (almost) anything and everything to improve their reliability to avoid the problems the units had with Hull Trains...

 

[Ethan1852]

I believe 170418 is at Holbeck rather than Crofton.

Yes it is at Holbeck.

 

[Mex I can]

In other related news 180111 went up to Doncaster the other week (not sure if it was mentioned on here). Does anyone know why?

I saw it heading through Mexborough and looked it up on RTT. It was down as an ECS move from Etches Park to Doncaster Robert Rds shed. Sorry I can’t shed any light on why, I’m used to seeing mainly old locos going to that destination.

 

[OTRail]

I saw it heading through Mexborough and looked it up on RTT. It was down as an ECS move from Etches Park to Doncaster Robert Rds shed. Sorry I can’t shed any light on why, I’m used to seeing mainly old locos going to that destination.

Not a problem, thanks for the info!

 

[Kneedown]

Ah ok, thank you! I can imagine EMR is doing (almost) anything and everything to improve their reliability to avoid the problems the units had with Hull Trains...

They are having plenty of attention from the fitters, to the extent that it can be challenging getting on a set to take trainees around, and do low speed moves and coupling practice. We manage in the end somehow though. The priority should be to get them running satisfactorily.

 

[43055]

I saw it heading through Mexborough and looked it up on RTT. It was down as an ECS move from Etches Park to Doncaster Robert Rds shed. Sorry I can’t shed any light on why, I’m used to seeing mainly old locos going to that destination.

Maybe it is a good point to terminate/start back away from the station area and mainline.

Looks like a 180 or two is on the way to London again at the moment:

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Updated list:

Now added Mk3 sets to the list and the withdrawn stock is now in a spoiler at the bottom of the list. Today marked the first 360's going up the Midland Mainline with 3 sets now being stabled at the new Kettering Electric Sidings ready for driver training to begin.

Class 43 HST power cars:
43047 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded - 'Powered by Paxman VP185'
43049 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded - 'Neville Hill'
43073 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded - 'Neville Hill HST Depot 42 Years'

43238 - LNER red, EMR branding
43251 - LNER red, EMR branding
43257 - LNER red, EMR branding
43272 - LNER red, EMR branding
43274 - LNER red, EMR branding
43295 - LNER red, EMR branding
43296 - LNER red, EMR branding
43299 - LNER red, EMR branding
43302 - LNER red, EMR branding
43305 - LNER red, EMR branding
43306 - LNER red, EMR branding (currently at Neville Hill, Not in service)
43307 - LNER red, EMR branding
43308 - LNER red, EMR branding (currently at Neville Hill, Not in service)
43309 - LNER red, EMR branding
43310 - LNER red, EMR branding
43314 - LNER red, EMR branding
43316 - LNER red, EMR branding
43317 - LNER red, EMR branding
43318 - LNER red, EMR branding
43319 - LNER red, EMR branding
43320 - LNER red, EMR branding

43423 - Plain blue, EMR branded - 'Valenta 1972-2010'
43465 - Plain blue, EMR branded (currently at Barrow Hill, Not in service)
43467 - Plain blue, EMR branded - 'British Transport Police Nottingham/Nottinghamshire Fire and Rescue Service'
43468 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43480 - Plain blue, EMR branded - 'West Hampstead PSB'
43484 - Plain blue, EMR branded

MK3 Coach sets:
NL are 8 coach sets, DY are 6 coach sets

'blue' sets
NL03 in service
NL04 in service
NL08 in service
NL11 in service
NL12 in service (7 coaches)

DY21 at Barrow Hill
DY22 at Barrow Hill
DY23 in service

'red' sets (Ex LNER)
NL51 in service (6 coaches)
NL56 in service
NL57 in service (6 coaches)
NL58 in service (6 coaches)

Class 153:
153308 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153311 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153319 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153355 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153357 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153376 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo - 'X-24 Expeditious'
153379 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153381 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153383 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153384 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153385 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo

Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156403 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMR outgoing livery
156406 - EMR outgoing livery
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156413 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) with EMR Regional logo
156414 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) no branding
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156470 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156473 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156902 - White with Red doors (ex 156402)
156907 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156407)
156909 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409)
156912 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156412)
156916 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156416)
156917 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156417)
156918 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156418)
156919 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156419)
156922 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156422)

Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - EMR outgoing livery
158774 - EMR outgoing livery
158777 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158780 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158783 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158785 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158788 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158799 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158806 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'Lincoln Castle Explorer'
158852 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158854 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'The Station Volunteer'
158856 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158857 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158858 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158862 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158863 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158864 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158889 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo

Class 170:
170416 - Full EMR Regional (currently on driver training)
170417 - Full EMR Regional - 'the key worker' (in service)
170418 - Scot Rail Blue, no branding (currently at Holbeck, Leeds)
170419 - Full EMR Regional (currently on driver training)
170420 - Full EMR Regional (currently on driver training)

Class 180:
180109 - Hull Trains blue, no branding (currently on driver training)
180110 - EMR outgoing livery (currently on driver training)
180111 - EMR outgoing livery (currently on driver training)
180113 - Hull Trains blue, no branding (currently on driver training)

Class 222:
222001 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'The Entrepreneur Express'
222002 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Cutlers' Company'
222003 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'Tornado'
222004 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Children's Hospital Sheffield'
222005 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222006 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Carbon Cutter'

222007 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222008 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Derby Etches Park'
222009 - EMR outgoing livery
222010 - EMR outgoing livery
222011 - EMR outgoing livery
222012 - EMR outgoing livery
222013 - EMR outgoing livery
222014 - EMR outgoing livery
222015 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - '175 Years of Derby's Railways 1839-2014'
222016 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222017 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222018 - EMR outgoing livery
222019 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222020 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222021 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222022 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Invest in Nottingham'
222023 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo

222101 - EMR outgoing livery
222102 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222103 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222104 - Full EMR intercity

Class 360
360101 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (last unit to Northampton for Mods 21/11)
360102 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360103 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360104 - Blue with White stripe (at Kettering)
360105 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360106 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360107 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360108 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360109 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360110 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360111 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360112 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360113 - Blue with White stripe (at Kettering)
360114 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360115 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360116 - Blue with White stripe (at Kettering)
360117 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360118 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360119 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360120 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)
360121 - Blue with White stripe (at Cricklewood)

Spoiler: Withdrawn Stock

Class 43 HST Power Cars:
43044 is Withdrawn but still at Neville Hill
43043, 045, 048, 064, 081, 082 are at Long Marston
43050, 060 are at Derby RTC with Colas Rail on test trains.
43052, 054, 066, 076, 089 are at Leicester (D.A.T.S). 43089 is now part of the 125group.
43046, 055, 058, 059, 083 are now with LSL
43277, 290 are now at Burton West Yard

Mk3's:
NL01 Scrapped/3 coaches to 125 group
NL06, NL07, NL10 Scrapped

Class 153's
153302, 318, 368, 372, 374, 382 are withdrawn and stored at Ely

Stations:
Hubbert's Bridge - New signage on the new platform

 

[_toommm_]

Another 180 out on test today (not sure how often these run so not sure if it’s news-worthy), this time First-liveried 180113:

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[43055]

Another 180 out on test today (not sure how often these run so not sure if it’s news-worthy), this time First-liveried 180113:

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View attachment 86661

First time I've seen picture of 180113 out. The paths have been in RTT every weekday for a while so I think they have been running quite regularly.

 

[OTRail]

First time I've seen picture of 180113 out. The paths have been in RTT every weekday for a while so I think they have been running quite regularly.

It’s been out a few times - I think it did a pairing with 111 to St Pancras at one point.