GTR need to run as many 12car 700s on the MML as possible thenOn realtime trains rail replacement coaches Peterborough to Bedford
GTR need to run as many 12car 700s on the MML as possible thenOn realtime trains rail replacement coaches Peterborough to Bedford
Yet again the air of superiority with your posts.
Yet again the air of superiority with your posts.
But he is correct though, when deciding access the TOCs say put it in weekends or bank holidays, if they are telling us that then you would assume that they know their passenger base and numbers?Yet again the air of superiority with your posts.
GTR need to run as many 12car 700s on the MML as possible then
But as my mother says "manners cost nothing".Reality of internet fora is that people can post with whatever attitude they like so long as they stay within a particular forum's rules. If @DarloRich's attitude bothers you so much then ISTM you have two options: either keep an eye out for his posts and call him out if/when he gets something wrong or grow a thicker skin.
But as my mother says "manners cost nothing".
On realtime trains rail replacement coaches Peterborough to Bedford
The ECML is completely closed on the Saturday and Sunday between Peterborough and Kings Cross as well as Hitchin-Cambridge. I understand that the signalling control is being transferred from Kings Cross to York so no trains can run during this work. The line is also blocked at Newark due to works on the flat crossing.That's going to be a long coach journey, plus tangled up with the mess of the A1/A14 work (let's hope there isn't a weekend closure there!). A 12x700 shuttle to St Neots and coach from there would be more friendly to passengers - I have seen SNO used as a turning point in extremis before...
Regarding the A1/A14 work, although the new A14 upgrade is not finished, most of the A1 work has been. The 40mph limit is long gone and its now 3 lanes on the southbound side and partially 3 lanes northbound.That's going to be a long coach journey, plus tangled up with the mess of the A1/A14 work (let's hope there isn't a weekend closure there!). A 12x700 shuttle to St Neots and coach from there would be more friendly to passengers - I have seen SNO used as a turning point in extremis before...
Traffic forecasts suggests that getting through Bedford town centre will probably incur bigger delays, but split into a few queues, not all in one as the Black Cat tends to be.Regarding the A1/A14 work, although the new A14 upgrade is not finished, most of the A1 work has been. The 40mph limit is long gone and its now 3 lanes on the southbound side and partially 3 lanes northbound.
The hold ups for the coach will be black cat roundabout.
My view exactly with Greater Anglia running as many 12 cars on the West Anglia route between Cambridge and London.
Even if this means reducing the Stansted Express to a 30 minute frequency to free up enough trains to use on the Cambridge services as the engineering works are far more important then the airport users.
RTT seems to have nothing south of Peterborough on the ECML, is KGX PSB fully closed for the works?
RTT shows usual StanExp service. Only change is extension of one Stratford - Stortford through to Camb every hour stopping all stations north of Stortford, and stops at secondary stations removed from one of the two usual Camb to LivSt services an hour.
The all stations Stratford will be max 8 car due to short platforms at various of the secondary stations, the two other Camb-LivSt look like they should be able to run as 12 car v usual 8. So net effect is 4 x 4 car extra from Camb each hour. Better than nothing but not a lot compared with all the lost capacity to KX
Indeed, and one of the forum's rules is that individuals should "respect" one another and contributepositively towards a "friendly environment". It is for others to judge whether or not these contributions fall into these parameters or not.Reality of internet fora is that people can post with whatever attitude they like so long as they stay within a particular forum's rules.
GTR need to run as many 12car 700s on the MML as possible then
Surely common sense would be for EMT to not stop at Bedford that weekend with replacement buses to and from Wellingborough for the small number of northbound passengers.Let's hope the punters stick to GTR.
The EMT Meridians that stop at Bedford are normally very full as it is, without ECML blockades
Most definitely not high level. The high-level gates should be reprogrammed so that no-one with tickets to places south of Wellingborough can get through the barriers that weekend to allow EMT to pick up at Bedford without the risk of selfish people going to Bedford overcrowding the trains at the expense of those going further north. Ideally it would also be great if a platform could be isolated to allow southbound services to drop off at Bedford but realistically this isn't likely to be possible so EMT should look at some form of door control.Ideal world GTR would run some fast services from Bedford using 12coach 700s. Maybe calling only at Luton and terminating in St Pancras high level, that would allow for crowd movers from the coaches.
Ideal world GTR would run some fast services from Bedford using 12coach 700s. Maybe calling only at Luton and terminating in St Pancras high level, that would allow for crowd movers from the coaches.
If pathing is an issue cut back the Corby service to operate as a shuttle with additional calls for Kettering & Wellingborough put into another service
Most definitely not high level. The high-level gates should be reprogrammed so that no-one with tickets to places south of Wellingborough can get through the barriers that weekend to allow EMT to pick up at Bedford without the risk of selfish people going to Bedford overcrowding the trains at the expense of those going further north. Ideally it would also be great if a platform could be isolated to allow southbound services to drop off at Bedford but realistically this isn't likely to be possible so EMT should look at some form of door control.
Why stop people from boarding at Bedford? That's pure selfishness to not want anyone else to get on the train you are already on, and to be left behind as a result. Some people (maybe not many, but some) will leave southbound trains at Bedford, why shouldn't anyone be able to replace them?Most definitely not high level. The high-level gates should be reprogrammed so that no-one with tickets to places south of Wellingborough can get through the barriers that weekend to allow EMT to pick up at Bedford without the risk of selfish people going to Bedford overcrowding the trains at the expense of those going further north. Ideally it would also be great if a platform could be isolated to allow southbound services to drop off at Bedford but realistically this isn't likely to be possible so EMT should look at some form of door control.
Quite frankly the presence or absence of a twice an hour (at most) EMT service at Bedford that usually uses 4 or 5 coach trains and is often already full and standing will have very little effect on whether passengers travelling solely south of Bedford will have to stand. Honestly the best option to prevent passengers from these stations standing would be a hourly service that doesn't start until the first station south of Bedford (running ECS to and from Bedford to allow reversals) with all other services running 'fast' south of Bedford and only stopping at Luton and or Airport Parkway but even that wouldn't be good enough as those in the south-east seemingly believe they are entitled to a better service than elsewhere in the country.So anybody from Bedford will have to use the local stopping service so any passengers from Harlington will end up standing all the way to St Pancras?
I don't think not knowing that is all that incredible. For example, an occasional traveller might only use the railways at bank holiday weekends. And when they inevitably find every other occasional traveller trying to do the same, and they can't get a seat because there's engineering works on another line, they conclude that that's when the railways are busiest.Hardly. I find it incredible that you need to be told that weekend and bank holidays see fewer travelers than a normal day in the working week.
GTR need to run as many 12car 700s on the MML as possible then
My view exactly with Greater Anglia running as many 12 cars on the West Anglia route between Cambridge and London.
Even if this means reducing the Stansted Express to a 30 minute frequency to free up enough trains to use on the Cambridge services as the engineering works are far more important then the airport users.
RTT seems to have nothing south of Peterborough on the ECML, is KGX PSB fully closed for the works?
Granted but for 72 hours, surely they can amend the Stansted Express to operate to a amended timetable running every half hour instead of every 15 minutes as 12 cars if need be.
I want the Stratford to Cambridge to be a class 379 on the 24th of August
You learn something new everyday. Does this mean that the allocations will *swap* for the weekend effectively seeing 317s on Stansted Express duties in 8-car formation and 379s on Cambridge duties in 12-car formations?Unlikely as 12 car operation being needed on Liverpool Street to Cambridge services will require Class 379 operation. Class 317s are not allowed to operate in 12 carriage formation in passenger service on West Anglia. (Manual dispatch possibly excepted)