Bletchleyite
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Quite, I have seen far more police cars driving about than I can ever recall but presumably that's either doing "patrols" or driving to specific emergencies
Yeah, I seem to be hearing more of them than usual too.
Quite, I have seen far more police cars driving about than I can ever recall but presumably that's either doing "patrols" or driving to specific emergencies
They can tell you but it sounds like you won't agree.Nobody can tell me confectionery isn’t essential! If anything it’s more essential now than ever before as I’m stuck at home all day every day.
Yeah, I seem to be hearing more of them than usual too.
YepThey can tell you but it sounds like you won't agree.
I'm in Chesham, it might be because I live right in the town centre but I'm aware of a lot of people being out and aboutWhere abouts in Bucks are you? MK is very, very quiet, though admittedly (despite a nice running route from my house being round Furzton Lake) I'm avoiding the honeypots as I feel it's my responsibility to do so, and the car will not be used for anything other than NHS volunteering until it's all lifted (I'm finding shopping locally in one of the Co-ops to be vastly more pleasant than what I'm hearing about the big places, things are generally well stocked and people are being nice and accommodating and sticking to social distancing).
I was walking along the Union Canal yesterday and the mix of walkers, joggers and cyclists made it seem busier than it was. I suppose it's like railways, pathing with a mixture of speeds reduces capacity. There was some poor behaviour in all three groups. I was glad to get onto the old Balerno branch with its greater width.Perhaps cyclists are more law abiding in England, but in Glasgow and majority seem to think it's their god-given right to either use the pavement to circumvent traffic lights or road junctions or to cycle on the pavement regardless.
With the need to keep a greater distance from other people on pavements, these cyclists make it far more awkward and difficult to do so, particularly as many are cycling in groups.
So they can tell you.
I was walking along the Union Canal yesterday and the mix of walkers, joggers and cyclists made it seem busier than it was. I suppose it's like railways, pathing with a mixture of speeds reduces capacity. There was some poor behaviour in all three groups. I was glad to get onto the old Balerno branch with its greater width.
Sure you aren’t just noticing them more because of the lack of traffic?Quite, I have seen far more police cars driving about than I can ever recall but presumably that's either doing "patrols" or driving to specific emergencies
Sure you aren’t just noticing them more because of the lack of traffic?
Oh, and your “is my journey really necessary” guilt
The police have no mandate to act in the interests of any section of society. They are there to uphold the law. Nothing more. Not to encourage people or cajole them. Just to do their job.Well it looks like the present movement restrictions will be maintained for at least another 2-3 weeks which is a relief. Maybe the next review will be about 2 weeks after the easter weekend when the effects on any non-compliance with the rules can be seen as an increase in the number of cases. If there is another upswing, then expect there to be at least 3 weeks more from then. Some people really don't help at all.
Gratefully, the police successes in recent days seem to be from neighbours and other complying people informing the police of selfish behaviour. As the majority of the population are doing the right thing, to see their riends and relatives go down sick and even die will cause a lot of anger so the selfish ones can't expect much sympathy except from the few others like them. That will enable the police to operate in the interests of the majority.
Listening to an interview on BBC R4 PM, of somebody who lives in Wuhan, where he explained that when residents there are tested as clear of COVID-19 (presumably by having antibodies in their blood), they are given a QR code so that when they go out, their health can be checked one would assume against a government database. This verifies that they are of reduced risk to others.
I can imagine some libertarians objecting to such a thing here, so presumably they would expect to be treated as trustworthy, and not have any incorruptable document certifying their health.
Their job is also to ensure the safety of the public, - not stand aside saying that their hands are tied when the enquiries are held. If the police did effectively allow violation of the restrictions, the great majority who do care about others would rise up and take things into their own hands. That would be a cue for the government to make the letter of the law reflect the spirit of the rules.The police have no mandate to act in the interests of any section of society. They are there to uphold the law. Nothing more. Not to encourage people or cajole them. Just to do their job.
You don’t think the police have a mandate to protect the safety of the public?The police have no mandate to act in the interests of any section of society. They are there to uphold the law. Nothing more. Not to encourage people or cajole them. Just to do their job.
Thanks, I was beginning to think that I was alone in thinking that.You don’t think the police have a mandate to protect the safety of the public?
Oh dear, but here we go. Why not? Road cycling on your own is far more socially isolated than running or walking, you'll go out into quiet country lanes potentially miles from anyone. And I say that having not cycled for a few weeks!
I'd actually prefer the Isle of Man approach - reduce road risk by reducing all top speed limits other than motorways down to 40mph.
Absolutely by using the law - nothing more.You don’t think the police have a mandate to protect the safety of the public?
Plus if someone is picking up a "non-essential item in their weekly shop
Presumably they're testing whether they actually have the virus or not, otherwise anyone who hasn't had it and doesn't have antibodies would be denied travel ?
I think all this is a bit ahead of ourselves, as from what I can pick up the scientific opinion seems to be that there’s no guarantee about immunity at present. They think it’s *likely* that there’s *some* immunity, but it’s by no means a certainty.
Perhaps cyclists are more law abiding in England, but in Glasgow and majority seem to think it's their god-given right to either use the pavement to circumvent traffic lights or road junctions or to cycle on the pavement regardless.
With the need to keep a greater distance from other people on pavements, these cyclists make it far more awkward and difficult to do so, particularly as many are cycling in groups.
I’d agree. I ended up temporarily on the road to pass a cyclist when I was out for a run the other day.Funnily I have seen a massive increase in pavement cycling in the last two weeks, which annoys me somewhat as the roads are nearly empty.
Funnily I have seen a massive increase in pavement cycling in the last two weeks, which annoys me somewhat as the roads are nearly empty.
The police have no mandate to act in the interests of any section of society. They are there to uphold the law. Nothing more. Not to encourage people or cajole them. Just to do their job.
I’d agree. I ended up temporarily on the road to pass a cyclist when I was out for a run the other day.
Well, I've not read of anyone coming up with an antibody test yet, which would suggest that that might be the case.
I think the problem with policing items and whether they are essential or not is that it would differ person to person. I've seen people say things like chocolate aren't essential but I know for me it is because it's one of the few things I can actually eat without having any sickness issues
My word - no one needs to be exercising on a bicycle? How joyless!!
What harm does it do anybody?