EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

[Domh245]

Just woken up to this crap. Well done Britain, you've let me down in choosing sovereignty over economic stability :roll:.

Honestly, a 'big bang' result like this was probably better than staying up all night and watching it (the vote and the value of the pound) slip away whilst slowly coming to terms with it.

 

[backontrack]

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If you're gonna cry, then you may as well play this too.

 

[danielnez1]

Quite a sad day for me, however my gut feeling was that with the current state of the EU, something was going to have to give. I hope this is a wake up call for them.

 

[backontrack]

Even The Grauniad says that 'Britain has voted decisively to leave'. They obviously haven't been to Scotland, then, where every single council voted to remain.

 

[TheKnightWho]

This cheap pound will cause yet more foreign buyers to snap up London properties, causing the prices to soar even further from a domestic perspective. The exact opposite of what Brexit intended.

 

[backontrack]

Wonder what will happen to UKIP now as their reason for existence has disappeared !!!

Perhaps they'll campaign for us to leave Britain?

Oh great, Diane Abbott's speaking. :roll:

 

[Harbornite]

Even The Grauniad says that 'Britain has voted decisively to leave'. They obviously haven't been to Scotland, then, where every single council voted to remain.

This could well be the beginning of the end for our 309 year old union.

 

[Antman]

Like I keep saying, this isn't a game. If someone loses in the Olympics, the Euros or whatever I'm disappointed but I ultimately get on with my life.

This isn't the same. Thousands of people's livelihoods are already on the line and we haven't even hit the working day yet. It's not about that I "didn't get the result wanted", because I didn't make my decision based on what made me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

I really cannot believe some of the ostriches in the sand on this forum sometimes.

Well your constant whinging isn't going to change anything!

 

[Strathclyder]

Honestly, a 'big bang' result like this was probably better than staying up all night and watching it (the vote and the value of the pound) slip away whilst slowly coming to terms with it.

I made the mistake of staying up all night and watching in numb bewilderment as common sense and economic stability was slowly but surely ****ed to the wind. It still hasn't completely sunk in yet...

 

[WestCoast]

I found it rather odd that areas of the country that benefit from EU membership (Wales, Cornwall) voted leave. It really is Turkeys voting in favour of Christmas.

Yes, many of those areas that benefit the most from EU structural funding voted to leave. Let's just hope that our Government keeps up that level of funding post-Brexit, there's no going back!

As for Brexit in general, I think it will be a difficult period ahead. Maybe in the long run we'll outperform the rest of Europe, maybe we won't. One thing is for sure, this decision won't unite us as a country.

 

[backontrack]

Well your constant whinging isn't going to change anything!

Look, just leave each other alone.

Farage is now speaking. He talks about campaigning for the 'old Labour vote'.

He goes into a sob story about a crying woman in Oldham who was upset by the Tories never going to her constituency. I agree with her, it's b****y terrible, but who said that Farage could spin this against the EU?

 

[TheKnightWho]

You're unbelievable - you do nothing but engage in childish insults.

I've been discussing this perfectly reasonably with other members of the forum, and you're so self-absorbed that you've already forgotten comments about whether I'm fun at parties, or accusing me of "whinging". Pathetic hypocrisy.

I won't be replying to you further, because frankly the adults are talking about the implications of this disaster.

 

[backontrack]

He goes into a sob story about a crying woman in Oldham who was upset by the Tories never going to her constituency. I agree with her, it's b****y terrible, but who said that Farage could spin this against the EU?

Jeremy Corbyn just tackled this one, because he said that it's the government's fault that Leave won in the north. I agree with him.

 

[Domh245]

Farage is now speaking. He talks about campaigning for the 'old Labour vote'.

He goes into a sob story about a crying woman in Oldham who was upset by the Tories never going to her constituency. I agree with her, it's b****y terrible, but who said that Farage could spin this against the EU?

Then again, he also proposed a bank holiday on June 23rd, which I could get behind :P

Anywho, Corbyn is on and sort of blabbering his way through

 

[Kite159]

Better start building that wall to stop anybody wanting to come in to do those low skilled jobs which some British youngsters seem below them to do (cleaning etc).

After all wasn't that the main campaign for the leave campaign to stop people moving to this country, and to hand back power to those nameless senior civil servants which actually run the country rather than the MPs? :Wink:

 

[TheKnightWho]

Look, just leave each other alone.

Farage is now speaking. He talks about campaigning for the 'old Labour vote'.

He goes into a sob story about a crying woman in Oldham who was upset by the Tories never going to her constituency. I agree with her, it's b****y terrible, but who said that Farage could spin this against the EU?

Farage already backtracking on the £350m to the NHS figure. No shame.

 

[bb21]

There really does need to be a block facility on here:roll:

There is, and I believe you have been informed of this previously.

http://www.railforums.co.uk/profile.php?do=ignorelist

 

[krus_aragon]

This could well be the beginning of the end for our 309 year old union.

470 years in this bit. (England and Wales.) Admittedly both of these nations leant in the same direction at this poll. But if the UK fractures, who knows.

Whilst I would like to see and independent Welsh state one day, this is not the way I'd hoped it might come to pass.

 

[Bromley boy]

3.7% of the world economy. The sun most definitely sets on the British Empire these days.



You live in a country ruled by a party who polled 1/3 of the popular vote, if you really are interested in the will of the people I would suggest election reform would have been a far better idea than EU exit.

I'm fully aware of that thanks, and happy with first past the post and the resulting strong government who can deliver their stated manifesto. I believe we recently had a referundum on PR, democratically rejected by the people of this country (on a 50/50 basis).

We've just had the most democratically transparent vote for decades on EU membership (also on a 50/50 basis). Once again, those same people have spoken.

Democracy in action!

 

[TheKnightWho]

Take back control!

 

[bb21]

Obviously this is an emotional subject, but can we just stay off personal attacks please as that really undermines any argument one may have.

I haven't got much time to look through the thread but I will try tidying this up later on the day.

 

[krus_aragon]

Take back control!

On the topic of that screenshot from Titanic, I wonder who'll be taking the role of Captain Edward Smith in the forthcoming negotiations...

 

[Bromley boy]

Take back control!

indeed! Thank goodness we just stepped off that sinking ship.

(The EU).

 

[najaB]

I've struggled hard to find a positive out of this and I'm still looking.

The closest I've come is that it's a non-binding referendum so it's possible that they can manage to find a way to implement the 'will of the people' without completely f***ing everything up.
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indeed! Thank goodness we just stepped off that sinking ship.

And onto the iceberg.

 

[TheKnightWho]

indeed! Thank goodness we just stepped off that sinking ship.

(The EU).

You mean when our currency crashed, our credit rating was threatened and when even our exports are screwed anyway because everyone is completely uncertain about the British economy?

 

[dgl]

I personally think the current vote results should not be counted as the gap between leave and remain is not great enough (in my view) to give a true representation. 51% of the people that voted DO NOT represent Britain in any way esp. as the people this vote will most effect in the future couldn't vote.
I believe there should be a minimum percentage put on referendums that are required to win, only then can it really be a voice of the people. This is just a voice of some and when looked at against the total population including all that are/will be affected the few.

 

[bb21]

I personally think the current vote results should not be counted as the gap between leave and remain is not great enough (in my view) to give a true representation. 51% of the people that voted DO NOT represent Britain in any way esp. as the people this vote will most effect in the future couldn't vote.
I believe there should be a minimum percentage put on referendums that are required to win, only then can it really be a voice of the people. This is just a voice of some and when looked at against the total population including all that are/will be affected the few.

How about 50% of the total eligible voters going for change in order to enact changes?

Just like what the government wanted to do with the unions?

A bit of consistency wouldn't hurt.

 

[Railops]

I personally think the current vote results should not be counted as the gap between leave and remain is not great enough (in my view) to give a true representation. 51% of the people that voted DO NOT represent Britain in any way esp. as the people this vote will most effect in the future couldn't vote.
I believe there should be a minimum percentage put on referendums that are required to win, only then can it really be a voice of the people. This is just a voice of some and when looked at against the total population including all that are/will be affected the few.

I was waiting for a post like this - comedy gold.

Did the Remain camp ask for this before it took place, I must have missed it.
You can't change the rules because you've lost.

 

[Bromley boy]

You mean when our currency crashed, our credit rating was threatened and when even our exports are screwed anyway because everyone is completely uncertain about the British economy?

We import far more than we export already. We recently experienced the greatest recession since the 1930s. The EU did nothing to solve that. Our economy is overly reliant on financial services (much to the consternation of the EU and the bank levy intended to hit London harder than other markets).

Time to readjust!

Have some faith in this country and its ability to determine its own destiny, free from interference. We have managed that for millennia. The EU has been around for a few decades and is rapidly imploding.

 

[Harbornite]

I wonder how many other nations in the EU will decide to pursue more sovereignty and call their own referendums, in light of this?