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Always had a soft-spot for Borth, and likewise Aberystwyth due to memories of 1980s summer services using 37/4s. Minfford, Blaenau, Fairbourne and Tywyn also do well due to the interchange with narrow gauge.

My memories of Borth go back to steam days as a small child when we went there most years.

I can remember hanging out the b&b window one early morning overlooking the line.

I could hear this squeak squeak noise getting closer till one of those rare hand operated pump trollies with 2 blokes pumping like mad went past.

I told my mom who told me I was barmy till I got the station master to tell her I wasn't.

I have never seen one ever again and that was the mid 60's.
 
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For good reason I suspect Llanelli station was not in the best of shape the last time I was there.

Llanelli town centre is also not the best

Perhaps "Greenback" will give us the definitive opinion of "his manor" :p

Glad to oblige, and sorry for the delay in coming back to this thread!

Llanelli station is a bit of a dump. I don't think any money ahs been spent on it since 1979, apart from the installation of new screens which didn;t work properly for several months. The wind can be very cold as it usually blows in from the south west, which means it comes straight along platform 2!

You can often find people hunched in doorways and the shelter of the footbridge doing, well, I don't know what they are doing, but you have to step over them when they have sat themselves on the steps...

On the plus side, well, no, there's not really a positive side now I come to think of it.

The town centre itself is suffering like many others from the proliferation of retail parks and supermarkets. The market can be interesting, they do nice burgers and hot dogs there.

The people here are very friendly though, and there are some nic eattractions nearby including a wildfowl centre, a modern sports stadium good beaches.

If they are improve the station at Merthyr Tydfil how about putting in a siding so that a unit can stable overnight rather than come up from Cardiff. This would allow Merthyr to gain earlier services to/from Cardiff

I agree. It's a shame that what was once a sizeable station has been reduced to a single line stub.
 

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Surprised there are no votes for Conwy or Harlech with their castles adjacent.

But Conwy is basically just 2 bare platforms in a cutting. With poor access. And idiots who walk across the tracks because of the complicated access to the down platform.
 

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Whitland for me. Something about the long closed 1970s Booking office.

Off the HOWL someone also mentioned Whitland which I would agree with. It is a classic example of a station rebuilt in the 50s in a way which would have been unbelievable 10 years later. Sadly run down since the ticket office closed in the late 90s there are calls for "something to be done about it". The local MP has even said that demolition would be preferable to what is there now. I hope it doesn't happen as I think it would be a great shame but fortunately Network Rail are looking to establish some sort of base there. Fingers crossed.

Whitland was destaffed in early 1994, however an agency took over in the August of that year (similar to Milford Haven or Newtown (Powys) currently), which lasted until summer 1998, when it closed permanently; which would make it one of the most recent destaffed stations in the country (and the most recent in Wales).

The building is in quite a state now sadly (unbelievable how much it can deteriorate over a decade!) and I think I've read that demolition is now the chosen process, despite the possibility of using it for NR workmen and / or limited passenger facilities, such as a waiting room, which is what the local authorities asked for. However, as we have come to expect over the last 30 years, a plastic shelter will more than suffice as a replacement :roll:
 

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Whitland was destaffed in early 1994, however an agency took over in the August of that year (similar to Milford Haven or Newtown (Powys) currently), which lasted until summer 1998, when it closed permanently; which would make it one of the most recent destaffed stations in the country (and the most recent in Wales).

The building is in quite a state now sadly (unbelievable how much it can deteriorate over a decade!) and I think I've read that demolition is now the chosen process, despite the possibility of using it for NR workmen and / or limited passenger facilities, such as a waiting room, which is what the local authorities asked for. However, as we have come to expect over the last 30 years, a plastic shelter will more than suffice as a replacement :roll:

The Whitland building has been flagged up several times - believed to have lots of nasty asbestos in - therefore requiring very careful treatment or demolition.
 

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Knighton is an English station, and this thread is about Welsh stations. I thought it was obvious that I meant the closest Welsh station to the border 8-)
The border is between the town and the station, with the station being in Shropshire.
Since the town is in Wales, it could perhaps be argued that Knighton is a Welsh station in England.

Conwy station has an interesting view, but isn't anything special itself.

Never heard of it. There is a station called Llanfairpwll, in the village of Llanfair Pwllgwyngyll, Anglesey, which sounds similar. Maybe you meant that? ;)
Actually... 'Llanfairpwll' has this nameboard, which means the station has a much longer name than 'Llanfairpwll', although I believe the shorter version is probably just as correct.

One of the advantages of moving to London Midland in 1963 was that the Cambrian avoided the worst of the station vandalism that was the hallmark of the Western Region post Beeching. Caersws and Machynlleth retain their original station buildings built out of the stone taken from Talerddig cutting. Caersws still has its 1897 Dutton signalbox intact albeit taken out of rail use.
Aberystwyth's station buildings have survived too of course. I rather like Aberystwyth station, but the lack of a waiting room is a let down given the potential for bus/V.O.R.R. interchange. Unfortunately it now appears to be lined up for vandalism in the form of a new canopy outside one of the entrances. One act of vandalism the Cambrian has already suffered though is Welshpool station having a major road slapped between the platform and station building, leaving passengers with bus shelters.

By the way, which organisation (BR Midland Region?) is responsible for the red, white and green colour scheme seen in both GWR land on the Cambrian (Aberystwyth being a noteable example) and LMS teriority (which I believe includes the north Wales coast)?

Whitland for me. Something about the long closed 1970s Booking office.
Long closed? Not nearly as long as I thought: IMGA0745.jpgIMGA0747.jpg

Personally, I really don't like Whitland station much at all, aside from the canopy next to the building, the layout of the place and the old-fashioned signals (ruined by the odd colour-light signal). It is a rather windy spot and the lack of waiting room means there's no protection from the wind. A suitable interchange it is not.

The local MP has even said that demolition would be preferable to what is there now. I hope it doesn't happen as I think it would be a great shame
I agree with you, and almost disagree with the MP. I don't think it'd be a great loss (unlike what would probably be my favoriate station, which I'll come to later), it has no aesthetic value in my opinion, but would be better than nothing if only they repainted the awful ATW turquoise back into Wales&West blue and un-boarded the windows. As it is, ATW's paintwork means it might actually look better with no building.

Whitland was destaffed in early 1994, however an agency took over in the August of that year (similar to Milford Haven or Newtown (Powys) currently), which lasted until summer 1998, when it closed permanently; which would make it one of the most recent destaffed stations in the country (and the most recent in Wales).
Thanks for the confirmation of clousure date.

I think I've read that demolition is now the chosen process, despite the possibility of using it for NR workmen and / or limited passenger facilities, such as a waiting room, which is what the local authorities asked for. However, as we have come to expect over the last 30 years, a plastic shelter will more than suffice as a replacement :roll:
That is grim news. Have you any more information? Seems like another letter to my local AM is in order.

The Whitland building has
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nasty asbestos in
Yes, that's what I've heard from my local AM in the past. Rather blew my vauge and unlikely-to-come-to-fruition thoughts of voluntering to tidy the place up so a waiting room could be reopenned to shreads.

And my favoriate Welsh station? Not having visted them all, it's hard to say, but externally (both from the platforms and the main entrance) I like Cardiff Central alot. The BR/GWR benches, and the station signage too come to think of it, have not (as far as I remember, it's been a while actually) been ruined with Arriva's vibrant turquoise. The toilets are abysmal though.

And the great loss, which would probably have been my favoriate? Fishguard & Goodwick. That building (the bits you could see, the rest was falling apart behind the budliea) was wonderful, I had visions of trying to make it look like a station on a heritage railway (think Birmingham Moor Street). Instead we have a modern ATW turquoise station devoid of facilities, a worseing of bus connections (the buses went to the harbour, breifly, where there are actualy decent facilities for interchange to meet the new services, but were withdrawn to Goodwick when the new station opened) and a not-really-a-replica building with a roof which looks like it came from an industrial estate. The colour of the new building is the one thing that works for me.
 

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Network Rail station- Aberystwyth-
Still has the GWR atmosphere of the station. Sitting in Wetherspoons on the former station concourse area with a pint of beer looking at the distant view of the Vale of Rheidol locomotive shed/trains and the view only spoilt by the appearance of a class 158 or 153 or "whatever" that appears forming the Birmingham service.
Heritage Railways- There a number with equal votes- Llangollen, Berwyn, Carrog, Rhdd-Ddu, Beddgellert, Porthmadog Harbour, Snowdon Summit (on a quiet day). A mention for Barmouth Ferry (Fairbourne Railway) with sea on three sides and the backdrop of mountains.
plus Nant Gwernol (between trains) for peace and quiet!!!!!
 

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Heritage Railways- There a number with equal votes- Llangollen, Berwyn, Carrog, Rhdd-Ddu, Beddgellert, Porthmadog Harbour, Snowdon Summit (on a quiet day). A mention for Barmouth Ferry (Fairbourne Railway) with sea on three sides and the backdrop of mountains.
plus Nant Gwernol (between trains) for peace and quiet!!!!!

Tanybwlch must be one of most tranquil places to wait for a train with a cuppa or a beer. It has the feel of an Indian hill station.
 

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Merthyr did have a passing loop until about 93 when the new station opened. There has been talk that the station will be resited again furter south to make way for a new bus station or tesco garage. The railway club closed for the last time this year and is soon to be demolished. I agree that there should be a siding or loop but it doesnt take long to get ecs to and from there. A disadvantage that the place has is the station is in the middle of a big town so its a risk stabling stock there unlike Treherbert and Rhymney which both have a crew messroom also unlike Merthyr.
 

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There has been talk that the station will be resited again furter south to make way for a new bus station or tesco garage.

It has already been moved south once before. If it is to move again, perhaps we can expect a reduction in fares to compensate for the shorter milage.
 

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Of those I have visited in Wales the best is Porthmadog (FR). The best National Rail station is Llandrindod.

The worst I've visited by far is Port Talbot Parkway. Depressing station, depressing town.
 

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The worst I've visited by far is Port Talbot Parkway. Depressing station, depressing town.

I don't think many would argue with that! Perhaps we should enliven this thread with some of Wales's worst. I'll kick the ball off with Pontypool as a grim example of what is a VERY pale, and depressing, shadow of its former self........but sadly there are many more!
 

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I shall step in for Pontypool & New Inn only for the fact that it was the final station in Wales I ticked off. However being there at 11pm was grim but I suspect being there at any other time would not be an improvement.

The first station in Wales I ticked off was Hawarden Bridge which at least has something to look at.
 

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Of those I have visited in Wales the best is Porthmadog (FR). The best National Rail station is Llandrindod.

The worst I've visited by far is Port Talbot Parkway. Depressing station, depressing town.
Surely Newport beats it is the worst post 2010 and Cardiff Central perhaps due to refresment or lack of, facilities.
 

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Surely Newport beats it is the worst post 2010 and Cardiff Central perhaps due to refresment or lack of, facilities.

Newport is a typical 'Architect's' dream. Unfortunately the politicians fell for it. It is awful!

Cardiff Central used to have Refreshment Rooms on every platform but we are now stuck with a tiny facility on the main concourse. The worst thing that ever happened to the station was to take away the Gower Restaurant and the Red Dragon Bar. Once more, we have a 'drawing board idea' being foisted upon the tw**s at Railtrack, as it was then.
 

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Ah yes, I remember the old bar in Swansea before the mid 1980's refurbishment. Although I was too young to drink, it was also a buffet/cafeteria of sorts and my family ventured in once or twice. It was horrible!

That said, all that is in the station now is a coffee shop. the question is, do we need any more than that these days, especially when there is a variety of cafes, supermarkets and bakeries surrounding most stations?

Those wanting an alcoholic drink now on Swansea station would be well advised to sample the Grand Hotel bar opposite the entrance.
 

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I suppose I should put in my tuppence-worth on this thread and nominate
Glan Conwy on the Llandudno-Blaenau Ffestiniog branch.

When you tire of watching the same ATW Cl150 pass by twelve times a day, you can always study the tidal currents of the adjacent River Conwy and watch the magnificent birdlife, as they avoid the binoculars at the RSPB reserve a little further down the valley.
 

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I suppose I should put in my tuppence-worth on this thread and nominate
Glan Conwy on the Llandudno-Blaenau Ffestiniog branch.

When you tire of watching the same ATW Cl150 pass by twelve times a day, you can always study the tidal currents of the adjacent River Conwy and watch the magnificent birdlife, as they avoid the binoculars at the RSPB reserve a little further down the valley.

Dovey Junction - Ospreys and Water Buffalo, I saw a Seal looking up at me once by the Friog Avalanche Shelter though a thread of Favorite Welsh Avalanche Shelters might not last to many posts...
 

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Newport is a typical 'Architect's' dream. Unfortunately the politicians fell for it. It is awful!

Cardiff Central used to have Refreshment Rooms on every platform but we are now stuck with a tiny facility on the main concourse. The worst thing that ever happened to the station was to take away the Gower Restaurant and the Red Dragon Bar. Once more, we have a 'drawing board idea' being foisted upon the tw**s at Railtrack, as it was then.

And the facilities at Newport are one end of the platform and the passengers inconviently at the the other
 

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Dovey Junction - Ospreys and Water Buffalo, I saw a Seal looking up at me once by the Friog Avalanche Shelter though a thread of Favorite Welsh Avalanche Shelters might not last to many posts...
Water Buffalo? Not seen any of those there (from the train, I've never alighted), I have seen the ospreys though. I have however seen water Buffalo after a walk from the remains of Cardigan station. They have a few tall poles in the hope of attracting Ospreys there too.
 

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Newport is a typical 'Architect's' dream. Unfortunately the politicians fell for it. It is awful!

Cardiff Central used to have Refreshment Rooms on every platform but we are now stuck with a tiny facility on the main concourse. The worst thing that ever happened to the station was to take away the Gower Restaurant and the Red Dragon Bar. Once more, we have a 'drawing board idea' being foisted upon the tw**s at Railtrack, as it was then.

Do stations need those now?

Are they affordable? Or would they require a subsidy?

Would they be used?

Call me a cynic if you want too, but I get a little bit frustrated with people looking back with rose tinted glasses about how things used to be.
 

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I'm surprised no one has said Bangor or Holyhead yet. Bangor (I must admit I have a soft spot for it as it is my local) is very well laid out (taxi rank is right next to platform 1, each platform has it's own car park and TVM, lifts to footbridge etc.) and has a very nice little cafe on platform 1. It has a decent ticket office and wonderful covered footbridge, and both platforms have just had new roofs installed. Also, the unusual Egyptian-style tunnel portal is a nice touch ;)

Holyhead has it's magnificent roof, is directly connected to a new-ish ferry terminal and has a harbour between platforms 1 & 2. Not many stations can say that :P Also there is the impressive bridge to the town from the station.

Bangor
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Holyhead
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Adam :D
 

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Do stations need those now?

Are they affordable? Or would they require a subsidy?

Would they be used?

Call me a cynic if you want too, but I get a little bit frustrated with people looking back with rose tinted glasses about how things used to be.

I have never worn rose tinted spectacles. The platform Refreshment Rooms were always very well used up until the time that they closed. The Gower Restaurant closed some time before but that was, perhaps, a consequence of the 'fast food' culture. The Red Dragon, however, was at ground level at the front of the station and had an adjoining Cafeteria. This was always very busy, not just with railway passengers but as a 'local' for people working in the area and, of course, the adjacent Bus Station. Its last incarnation was as a 'Gay Bar' which was, understandably, off putting to many people.
 

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Ah yes, I remember the old bar in Swansea before the mid 1980's refurbishment. Although I was too young to drink, it was also a buffet/cafeteria of sorts and my family ventured in once or twice. It was horrible!

That said, all that is in the station now is a coffee shop. the question is, do we need any more than that these days, especially when there is a variety of cafes, supermarkets and bakeries surrounding most stations?

Those wanting an alcoholic drink now on Swansea station would be well advised to sample the Grand Hotel bar opposite the entrance.

I too remember the old Café/bar at Swansea and agree it was a bit naff!!

As for not needing more than the current Costa (I think it's Costa.....isn't it?) perhaps Swansea more than most places DOES need a bit more. Despite the recent station refurb stepping out of Swansea station into High St is a grim transformation!! There are a few cafés but nothing to entice you to spend much time in. Sad to see that the Brains pub the Adam & Eve a short walk down High St has now closed again because, to be honest, after venturing into the Grand for a pint while waiting for a train I cant say I would want to repeat the experience......not even any real ale!!
 

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I too remember the old Café/bar at Swansea and agree it was a bit naff!!

As for not needing more than the current Costa (I think it's Costa.....isn't it?) perhaps Swansea more than most places DOES need a bit more.

I'm not sure. As long as there is some sort of facility to have a sit down and a hot drink without leaving the station, I don't know if anything else would be profitable or sustainable.

Despite the recent station refurb stepping out of Swansea station into High St is a grim transformation!!

Now that I agree with!!!

There are a few cafés but nothing to entice you to spend much time in. Sad to see that the Brains pub the Adam & Eve a short walk down High St has now closed again because, to be honest, after venturing into the Grand for a pint while waiting for a train I cant say I would want to repeat the experience......not even any real ale!!

The Adam and Eve opens and closes fairly regularly! It was a popular place a few years ago when I worked in a certain office not far away, especially on Friday afternoons! I hope it will reopen again soon...

The Grand bar is fine if you don't want real ale, or at least it has always been OK when I've popped in for a quick one!

Oh, and don't forget that the Espresso Bar opposite the station is licenced!
 

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I'm not sure. As long as there is some sort of facility to have a sit down and a hot drink without leaving the station, I don't know if anything else would be profitable or sustainable.

Yes, you're probably right.


Now that I agree with!!!



The Adam and Eve opens and closes fairly regularly! It was a popular place a few years ago when I worked in a certain office not far away, especially on Friday afternoons! I hope it will reopen again soon...

The Grand bar is fine if you don't want real ale, or at least it has always been OK when I've popped in for a quick one!

Oh, and don't forget that the Espresso Bar opposite the station is licenced!

I'm from the area but now living away (a long way!). I was home in the area at xmas and asked about the Adam & eve and was told it was supposed to be re-opening again. I don't know what it was about the Grand but went there on a sunday afternoon last July. It was a (rare) warm aftrernoon and the inside and the people there seemed depressing and I sat outside and you know the place...... maybe it's just not an area to be sitting outside! I caught it on a bad day, perhaps. I'll stick to what I usually do and make the effort to walk down to the Spoon's!

Strange to think that once upon a time Victoria was tucked away in the seedy end of town. If you stepped out of it now you 'd be right in the heart of things whereas High St today........Hmmmmm!
 

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Pontypridd has got to be one of the worst stations for me personally. Considering it is an interchange between three different lines (Treherbert, Aberdare and Merthyr), I think it is absolutely dire place. It looks so run down, it really is a shame.
 

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Water Buffalo? Not seen any of those there (from the train, I've never alighted), I have seen the ospreys though. I have however seen water Buffalo after a walk from the remains of Cardigan station. They have a few tall poles in the hope of attracting Ospreys there too.

Very reclusive and opposite side to ospreys so rarely seen
 
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