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Great Northern 313 Withdrawals

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I think from this week GTR is up to 50% of services being 717 operated.
 
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Gerald Fiennes said:
Although indeed C313s are regarded as the first production 'PEP' units, it's worth recalling that the prototype trains were actually aluminium bodied, had all axles powered and offered three doors per side. They really were what one needs for intense suburban railways; the prototypes had a power/weight ratio 30% higher than C313. The 455s, a derivative of the C313, somehow ended up with a power/weight ratio 5% lower again than the C313, a result of being heavier. Really not what's needed on a suburban railway although it's taken us all about 40 years to realise that!
Still, I remember the C313s being introduced on the GN in 1977 and the original 20 min off-peak timetable that came with it. Tremendous improvement on the erratic DMU service beforehand. They've had an honourable life these past 43 years and have certainly earned their keep.
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It was 1976 they were first introduced.
 
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The 455 is not a derivative of the PEP fleet it’s body entirely different as a 317/Mk3 construction and motors are EE507 following decades of use in 411/412/421/423 etc.

Some did get PEP 508 trailers when the 508s moved North to 3 car Merseyside and re-slotted into a 455/7 build.
 
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So now current status is: -

Scrapped - 313.018,23,25-29,31,36,38,40,42-3,46,50,53-5,58,62-3 (21)
Stored - 313.024,56 (2)
Southern - 313.001-17,19-20 (19)
NR - 313.021 (1)
GN - 313.022,30,32-5,37,39,41,44-45,47-49,51-52,57,59-61,64 (21)

Updated 17/7
 
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Is there a list of what’s next to go and when? I’d like to see a few in particular on there last runs, but I have no knowledge on finding this out
 
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reddragon said:
So now current status is: -

Scrapped - 313.018,23,25-29,31,36,38,40,42-3,46,50,53-5,58,62-3 (21)
Stored - 313.024,56 (2)
Southern - 313.001-17,19-20 (19)
NR - 313.021 (1)
GN - 313.022,30,32-5,37,39,41,44-45,47-49,51-52,57,59-61,64 (21)

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Why have 313024 and 313056 not been sent for scrap.
 
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swt_passenger said:
The contract is split 50/50 isn’t it? There have been reports of both Sims and Booths earlier.
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I’m not sure any of today’s yards are really geared up for large numbers of vehicles sitting around waiting to be dismantled. Having said that, Sims have taken 12-car trains in the past. Just my thoughts, but it *may* be that the scrap dealers prefer arrivals in dribs and drabs.
 
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Ladder23 said:
when are the next unit/s looking to be going?
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Probably Monday morning, to Sims Metals Newport. This has been a regular Monday fixture for the last few weeks now.

Must admit Booths is preferable as it gives a better opportunity to photograph the units on their home territory, albeit under falling light as these moves take place in the evening.
 
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bramling said:
Probably Monday morning, to Sims Metals Newport. This has been a regular Monday fixture for the last few weeks now.

Must admit Booths is preferable as it gives a better opportunity to photograph the units on their home territory, albeit under falling light as these moves take place in the evening.
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I should be able to make a trip Monday due to my shift so I’ll see what the allocation is!
 
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Movements to both Booths and Newport are pencilled in for Monday, with Booths pencilled in every evening next week, although none have been made active, so it's just a case of checking RTT each day to see if its been made live
 
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Another scrap move is due this morning.
37884 is making it's way to Hornsey as 0E55, 313056 + 024 look like the likely pair ready to commence their final move to Newport later on this morning.
 
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Class315 said:
Another scrap move is due this morning.
37884 is making it's way to Hornsey as 0E55, 313056 + 024 look like the likely pair ready to commence their final move to Newport later on this morning.
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It ran and is now around Swindon, ran early so I missed it.
 
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