GWR Intercity Express Train (IEP) initial diagrams & allocations

[Mark Webster]

Thank u

 

[Mark Webster]

Morning .
Does anyone which gwr hst's are allocated 1a15/1a78/1a75/1a76 please?

 

[Siemens Staines]

@Railperf

Services on 802 diagrams for Sat 24/11

IW952 & IW961
NP > 1C04 > 1A85 > 1C89 > LA

Usual disclaimers duly noted! 1C04 was an HST today.

 

[Mark Webster]

Usual disclaimers duly noted! 1C04 was an HST today.

Do you know the power car numbers please?

 

[FGW_DID]

Usual disclaimers duly noted! 1C04 was an HST today.

Do you know the power car numbers please?

1C04 & 1A85 is HST vice 802 (8 vice 10)

43029 & 053

 

[Railperf]

Are the other diagrams still as planned?

 

[FGW_DID]

Are the other diagrams still as planned?

I have seen nothing reported to the contrary (yet).

 

[Railperf]

I have seen nothing reported to the contrary (yet).

Is the IET that should have formed 1c04 out to play at all on another diagram?

 

[FGW_DID]

Is the IET that should have formed 1c04 out to play at all on another diagram?

I shouldn’t think so, if it was available it would have worked it’s booked diagram.

 

[Railperf]

@Railperf

Services on 802 diagrams for Sat 24/11

IW951 & IW966

SM > 1L34 > 1C11 > 1A20 > 1B59 > 5Z51 > SG

IW952 & IW961

NP > 1C04 > 1A85 > 1C89 > LA

IW954 & IW968

NP > 1C74 > 1A82 > 1C86 > 1A35 > NP

IW955 & IW964

NP > 1C76 > 1A87 > 1C92 > LA

IW958 & 965

LA > 1A77 > 1C81 > 1A92 > NP

IW959 & IW960

SG > 1A04 > 1B15 > 1L62 > 1C21 > 1A29 > 1B91 > SM

NP: North Pole
SG: Stoke Gifford
SM: Swansea Maliphant
LA: Laira

Usual Disclaimers etc etc!

Thanks..looks like i will be riding 005 and 012 later today as planned

 

[olympus]

1L28 and 1L40, the 07:02 and 08:37 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington (via Cheltenham) services were both showing as 9 coaches (Class 800/3) on passenger information systems. 1L40 is usually a HST (I do not recall another instance of it being an 800).

 

[FGW_DID]

1L28 and 1L40, the 07:02 and 08:37 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington (via Cheltenham) services were both showing as 9 coaches (Class 800/3) on passenger information systems. 1L40 is usually a HST (I do not recall another instance of it being an 800).

Both of those services are on booked 800/3 diagrams today - 800306 & 305 respectively.

 

[FGW_DID]

Thanks..looks like i will be riding 005 and 012 later today as planned

005/012 allocated to the IW951/966 turns.

 

[Myles Thompson]

Any idea if 1L85 is going to be an HST or IET today?

 

[Mag_seven]

Any idea if 1L85 is going to be an HST or IET today?

The inbound working is shown as having 8 coaches so should be an HST.

(note: 1L85 is 17.00 Cheltenham-Padd, the inbound working of which is 1G38 14.15 Padd-Cheltenham)

 

[Myles Thompson]

thank you very much

 

[Dren Ahmeti]

For the people complaining about 5v10, this happened yesterday:
5W45 1458 formed 1B51 1545 PAD-SWA 10v5.
1L58 1507 formed 1W45 1520 PAD-MIM 9v5.
1A19 1514 formed 1G47 1615.
Reason for alteration is given as “Fully forming 1B51 due to special event in Wales” + “Late running 1A19”.

Yet again proving that yesterday’s HSS TSC [Train Service Controller] (which I believe is a member of RF, but I won’t name just in case) can and will do their job well, contrary to some people’s beliefs!

 

[Railperf]

@FGW_DID thanks for the 802 diagrams. Managed to catch the trains I expected. It was only the early one that became a HST that i missed, but would have missed anyway as i was running late.

 

[nuneatonmark]

I am travelling on 1c89 on 6th December, how likely is this to be an 802? Thanks.

 

[PHILIPE]

I am travelling on 1c89 on 6th December, how likely is this to be an 802? Thanks.

Current diagram in Post #1562 so should be 10 Car (2 x 5) Class 802. Any alteration won't be known until the day

 

[Railperf]

005/012 allocated to the IW951/966 turns.

Is there any information as to whether either one of those sets 005 or 012 was down on power or had an engine out?
It was definitely not performing as well as sets 015 and 009 later in the day.

 

[FGW_DID]

Is there any information as to whether either one of those sets 005 or 012 was down on power or had an engine out?
It was definitely not performing as well as sets 015 and 009 later in the day.

Can't help you there I'm afraid.

 

[TractiveEffort]

Is there any information as to whether either one of those sets 005 or 012 was down on power or had an engine out?
It was definitely not performing as well as sets 015 and 009 later in the day.

012 had a GU shut down from SWI-BPW on 1B59, no other reason that could be unit related. Restarted at BPW.

 

[Railperf]

012 had a GU shut down from SWI-BPW on 1B59, no other reason that could be unit related. Restarted at BPW.

Thanks for that. I was aboard the 14.00 BTM-PAD and it definitely was significantly slower accelerating in diesel mode on all three sections to Swindon compared to 009 and 015 on the 1830 BTM-PAD I can't believe the driver was only using 75 to 80% power.

 

[ValleyLines142]

Many services only 5 vice 10 car today, including the 0515 Bristol to Paddington via Newbury (1K71), 0648 Weston-super-Mare to Paddington (1A07) (in which SEVEN people on board complained on Twitter), 0712 Taunton to Paddington (1A09), 1445 Paddington to Swansea (1B46) as well as the infamous 0730 Cardiff to Portsmouth (1F05) which was just a single 158, and the 0629 Swansea to Paddington (1L24) cancelled throughout. Oh, and the Bath Christmas markets.

When will it stop?

 

[irish_rail]

Many services only 5 vice 10 car today, including the 0515 Bristol to Paddington via Newbury (1K71), 0648 Weston-super-Mare to Paddington (1A07) (in which SEVEN people on board complained on Twitter), 0712 Taunton to Paddington (1A09), 1445 Paddington to Swansea (1B46) as well as the infamous 0730 Cardiff to Portsmouth (1F05) which was just a single 158, and the 0629 Swansea to Paddington (1L24) cancelled throughout. Oh, and the Bath Christmas markets.

When will it stop?

I think the problem will shift soon exclusively to the Plymouth route as more 9 cars come on stream (after all the 9 car 802s are essentially for use on the Swansea bristol and Oxford routes) and it'll only be a problem of short forms on the west's true intercity route. But then people down here complain less so it's probably seen as the lesser of two evils. Whoever specified so many 5 car units should be held accountable.

 

[CMRail]

No, it will stop/dramatically decrease once HWR have sufficient stock of IETs.

 

[Unclepete]

First IET on off peak Padd - Bedwyn fast services should be in service next week.

Hi, do we know if this has happened yet? If so, which diagram?
Thanks

 

[JN114]

Hi, do we know if this has happened yet? If so, which diagram?
Thanks

I don’t know I’m afraid, a cycling mishap on the way to nights Friday has me off work for a little while. There may be one or two others on here who can advise.

 

[FGW_DID]

Hi, do we know if this has happened yet? If so, which diagram?
Thanks

No Bedwyn work as of yet but there is one 800/0 Diagram with Newbury work on it - Diagram NP105.