Is Euston-Warrington the longest non stop run?

[Harlesden]

Seems to be a 105 minutes run. Is there anything special about Warrington for every fast Euston-Glasgow train to stop there? I'd love to do the journey but after checking March and April on the NR website, the cheapest outward Advance fare seems more than double the price of the Advance return

 

[SprinterMan]

Seems to be a 105 minutes run. Is there anything special about Warrington for every fast Euston-Glasgow train to stop there? I'd love to do the journey but after checking March and April on the NR website, the cheapest outward Advance fare seems more than double the price of the Advance return

All London-Glasgow trains stop there beacuse no London-Chester/Manchester/Liverpool/Birmingham trains run through there. The same is true of Wigan, Preston, Lancaster & Carlisle. It is (I think) the longest non-stop run that isn't a sleeper train although FGW have a Reading-Exeter that is none stop that must be close.

 

[AlterEgo]

Longest non stop on VT is actually Euston to Preston. Can't recall the time of the service to hand.

 

[Wath Yard]

London - York is further and takes longer than London - Warrington and several services do that.

There is nothing special about Warrington, though I don't know why a town would need to be special to have 1 tph to London. There is nothing special about Doncaster and that has several tph to London.

London - Warrington isn't even the furthest on the WCML. There is a London - Preston non-stop.

 

[Liam]

1630 eus-glc.

There's also the 0540 off Edinburgh Waverley to Kings Cross, stopping only at Newcastle.

 

[IanXC]

East Coast of course have the 157 minute run from Newcastle to Kings Cross on the Flying Scotsman.

 

[NSE]

I haven't looked for the thread, but I asked the same question, and the answer was generally believed to be the flushing scotsman non-stop from Newcastle.

 

[Stuwhu]

I haven't looked for the thread, but I asked the same question, and the answer was generally believed to be the flushing scotsman non-stop from Newcastle.

Bet the flushing scotsman leaves a mess on the tracks!!

 

[NSE]

Oh dear :P I love my apple gadgets but autocorrect ges on my nerves! Particularly when on arrival at Finchley Road I tried to tell my girlfriend I was 'going underground girl!' but in my haste managed to tell her I was going 'under that girl'.

 

[Urban Gateline]

Oh dear :P I love my apple gadgets but autocorrect ges on my nerves! Particularly when on arrival at Finchley Road I tried to tell my girlfriend I was 'going underground girl!' but in my haste managed to tell her I was going 'under that girl'.

Oh dear, hope you didn't get in too much trouble for that!

 

[Bungle73]

Oh dear :P I love my apple gadgets but autocorrect ges on my nerves! Particularly when on arrival at Finchley Road I tried to tell my girlfriend I was 'going underground girl!' but in my haste managed to tell her I was going 'under that girl'.

Turn it off if you want.

 

[johnnychips]

Bet the flushing scotsman leaves a mess on the tracks!!

I thought I was too old to get the giggles at my age, but the image of a guy in a kilt on the loo... sorry!

 

[dk1]

I thought I was too old to get the giggles at my age, but the image of a guy in a kilt on the loo... sorry!

 

[34D]

East Coast of course have the 157 minute run from Newcastle to Kings Cross on the Flying Scotsman.

Are we doing miles or minutes here though?

If we included the sleeper, the sunday night down omits taunton, and is booked 3 hours reading-exeter.

Him going under the other girl is funnier than a scottish guy on the kazi

 

[Eagle]

If we're only counting advertised stops the Lowland Caley from Watford to Carlisle may be longer. (There's usually an unadvertised stop at Preston and/or Crewe, but the doors aren't unlocked.)
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Is there anything special about Warrington for every fast Euston-Glasgow train to stop there?

It's the first station on the WCML that can't be served by another London service, simple as.

 

[Ivo]

If we're only counting advertised stops the Lowland Caley from Watford to Carlisle may be longer. (There's usually an unadvertised stop at Preston and/or Crewe, but the doors aren't unlocked.)

When I did the Lowland Sleeper it stopped at Lancaster, Preston, Wigan North Western and Warrington Bank Quay - but not Crewe...

 

[VTPreston_Tez]

Watford Junction to Carlisle on the Highland Sleeper?

 

[Eagle]

Watford Junction to Carlisle on the Highland Sleeper?

That's the Lowland sleeper.

 

[EltonRoad]

There used to be a summer Saturdays FGW train from Paddington to Newquay that went non-stop from Reading to Lostwithiel, within the last 2-3 years, not sure if it still runs with that calling pattern.

 

[VTPreston_Tez]

That's the Lowland sleeper.

Whoops, forgot.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

There used to be a summer Saturdays FGW train from Paddington to Newquay that went non-stop from Reading to Lostwithiel, within the last 2-3 years, not sure if it still runs with that calling pattern.

I don't think it does, AFAIK no West of England services run non-stop through Reading any more, nor indeed does anything pass Exeter St Davids or Plymouth non-stop (and only one omits Newton Abbot!). Back in the final summer of VXC, there was one Newquay-Edinburgh via Leeds train on a Saturday, serving only Plymouth, Exeter St Davids and Bristol Temple Meads before Birmingham.

 

[Eagle]

Actually, thinking about it, how long is London to Paris?

 

[IanXC]

Actually, thinking about it, how long is London to Paris?

Without answering the question, isn't Brussels marginally further than Paris?

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Without answering the question, isn't Brussels marginally further than Paris?

I think so, but none of them run non-stop - all serve Lille as a minimum. Roughly half of the Paris trains are non-stop.

 

[Eagle]

Without answering the question, isn't Brussels marginally further than Paris?

All Brussels services stop at Lille at least, there are no nonstop runs between London and Brussels.

(Anyway I thought Paris was further than Brussels; it certainly takes longer.)

 

[IanXC]

All Brussels services stop at Lille at least, there are no nonstop runs between London and Brussels.

(Anyway I thought Paris was further than Brussels; it certainly takes longer.)

London-Paris non stop appears to be 2hrs16mins, London-Brussels is 2hrs01mins, but you're right that there are no non stop services, I was still thinking of the pre December 2011 timetable which had a daily non stop Brussels-London at 1hr54mins.

Have I got the idea that Brussels takes longer from the pre HSL1 (Belguim) journey time?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

St Pancras to Paris Nord is roughly 65 miles longer than St Pancras to Bruxelles Midi. Can't remember the exact distances though, but there are non stop Paris services.

 

[TEW]

I don't think it does, AFAIK no West of England services run non-stop through Reading any more, nor indeed does anything pass Exeter St Davids or Plymouth non-stop (and only one omits Newton Abbot!). Back in the final summer of VXC, there was one Newquay-Edinburgh via Leeds train on a Saturday, serving only Plymouth, Exeter St Davids and Bristol Temple Meads before Birmingham.

The London-Newquay trains stopping pattern is London, Reading, Exeter, Plymouth, Lostwithiel, Par and Newquay. The only set down stops in the high summer are Lostwithiel, Par and Newquay though. Many years ago a London-Penzance service on Summer Saturdays ran non stop from London to Plymouth and in the other direction one called Plymouth, Westbury, London.

The XC Newcastle-Newquay on a Summer Saturday was the best. Stopping pattern after Birmingham was Bristol Temple Meads, Plymouth and Newquay.

 

[xtradj]

everyone forgets that bank quay also has alot of connecting services for london users from stations like runcorn east, frodsham, earlestown, etc etc

 

[Eagle]

everyone forgets that bank quay also has alot of connecting services for london users from stations like runcorn east, frodsham, earlestown, etc etc

Yes that's obviously a major part in why it deserves an hourly service*, but the reason it gets a nonstop service to London is every station south of there can have its calls on different London services (Crewe on the Chesters and Manchesters, Stafford on the Liverpools, Rugby on the Birminghams, and so on).

*at least; it's likely that at the next WCML recast at the end of next year there might be another hourly London to Preston IC service with more calls along the Trent Valley and such; might get some extensions to Blackpool too post-electrification. Certainly all interested parties (Virgin, NR, the DfT) agree on this much.