Liverpool Lime St remodelling

[8A Rail]

Not my photograph unfortunately. I did not have a camera at the time.
Not sure what made you laugh though!

"It seems that both 8A Rail and myself were wrong" Just my sense of humour as in "both" of us are wrong!

 

[nw-sparks]

It's probably a dumb question, but do we know what the situation will be at the end of October? Which of the changes will be completed in this first blockade?
Resignalling and control from Ashburys? I think yes.
Closure of P1 ?
Two new platforms ?

And while I'm asking, will we get four operational tracks at Huyton?

 

[QueensCurve]

It's best to refer to post numbers, not everyones' page settings match.

Or better still link to the post.

 

[Polarbear]

I appreciate phase one of the Lime Street work hasn't started on the ground as yet (other than some preliminary works), but does anyone have any idea when phase 2 is likely to be scheduled?

I would imagine a good time would be around Easter, which next year is Friday 30 March & Monday 2 April.

 

[fowler9]

I appreciate phase one of the Lime Street work hasn't started on the ground as yet (other than some preliminary works), but does anyone have any idea when phase 2 is likely to be scheduled?

I would imagine a good time would be around Easter, which next year is Friday 30 March & Monday 2 April.

I don't know you know. Some pretty significant work is already well underway between platforms 7 & 8.

 

[driver_m]

Phase one has started in a way as there's a lot of overhead stanchion clips installed in the cutting outside the station. Plus one or two new bits of OLE from the wall collapse incident. The old turntable area has a stack of spoil regularly dumped from between 7&8. There's also something being dug up on Edge Hill pl3&4.

Both lines into the station now have brand new LED signals to bring you in too. A bit further out and more connected with the resignalling, a lot of exposed cable troughing has been put in at Runcorn. No signal bases as yet that I could see but I'd guess not far off.

 

[playboy81]

Where is the Virgin Trains ticket office and first class lounge currently situated? Does anyone have any photos of the progress being made with the new tracks and platforms between current platforms 7 and 8??

Has any work begun on stripping out the old Coopers pub and Burger King unit?

 

[PaxVobiscum]

Where is the Virgin Trains ticket office and first class lounge currently situated?

I think it's just behind Ken and Bessie near the Plaza entrance.

 

[AntoniC]

The Virgin Office & First Class Lounge is now opposite where it used to be.

(Its now under the big clock).

Burger King & Coopers are still there, a row of seats have been placed in front of the entrance to Burger King.

I was at Lime St last week.

 

[8A Rail]

The Virgin Office & First Class Lounge is now opposite where it used to be.
(Its now under the big clock).
Burger King & Coopers are still there, a row of seats have been placed in front of the entrance to Burger King.
I was at Lime St last week.

Also rows of seats near the side entrance by Platform Nine too.

 

[childwallblues]

Also rows of seats near the side entrance by Platform Nine too.

There are even seats in the entrance to the Merseyrail lifts.

 

[childwallblues]

I think it's just behind Ken and Bessie near the Plaza entrance.

Plaza entrance?

 

[Polarbear]

I don't know you know. Some pretty significant work is already well underway between platforms 7 & 8.

Thanks - I've not been up to Lime Street for a while so not up to speed with what's been happening there.

 

[8A Rail]

Plaza entrance?

Probably referring to gentle stepped / sloop area outside the station leading to the main entrance. As good as name as any for that area I think.

 

[507 001]

What's happening to the old Burger King/Coopers unit?

 

[DJH1971]

What's happening to the old Burger King/Coopers unit?

Not sure if this will get knocked down or not, as the M&S Simply Food is adjoined to it.

 

[driver_m]

What's happening to the old Burger King/Coopers unit?

It's supposedly going to be the permanent home for the VT platform staff. That's what they've heard.

 

[fowler9]

It's supposedly going to be the permanent home for the VT platform staff. That's what they've heard.

The whole block? There must be about 3 or 4 Virgin Trains platform staff at any one time. Do they need the whole of that old Burger King and White Star?

 

[childwallblues]

Not sure if this will get knocked down or not, as the M&S Simply Food is adjoined to it.

It is part of Barrier Building so demolition would be highly unlikely.

 

[driver_m]

The whole block? There must be about 3 or 4 Virgin Trains platform staff at any one time. Do they need the whole of that old Burger King and White Star?

First class lounge as well don't forget.

 

[fowler9]

First class lounge as well don't forget.

Yeah, good point.

 

[Urban-Savage]

Just been at Lime Street, amazed at progress, new platforms virtually now carved out and seemingly not far of ready for work to start on making them into proper platform edges.

 

[M28361M]

Merseyrail have finally got around to providing info on their timetable changes, now available on their website.

In summary:

• Bus replacement between Hunts Cross and Liverpool South Parkway.
• Ormskirk and Kirkby line services terminate at Moorfields until 20:00, running forward empty to Central to reverse.
• Extra early morning and late night trains between Liverpool South Parkway and Liverpool Central (looks like they have made normally ECS moves into passenger services).
• Southport services retimed slightly between LPY and LVC.
• On Sundays, additional non-stop services between LPY and LVC to give 4tph frequency.

Will be 'interesting' if another RMT strike takes place while this closure is going on!

 

[stuart100100]

Merseyrail have finally got around to providing info on their timetable changes, now available on their website.

In summary:

• Bus replacement between Hunts Cross and Liverpool South Parkway.
• Ormskirk and Kirkby line services terminate at Moorfields until 20:00, running forward empty to Central to reverse.
• Extra early morning and late night trains between Liverpool South Parkway and Liverpool Central (looks like they have made normally ECS moves into passenger services).
• Southport services retimed slightly between LPY and LVC.
• On Sundays, additional non-stop services between LPY and LVC to give 4tph frequency.

Will be 'interesting' if another RMT strike takes place while this closure is going on!

The Ellesmere Port branch gets the raw deal again being reduced to a shuttle to Hooton for most of the day

 

[fowler9]

The Ellesmere Port branch gets the raw deal again being reduced to a shuttle to Hooton for most of the day

Why is the Ellesmere Port Branch getting a shuttle for the Lime Street Closure. West Allerton is getting a bus for a month, Ellesmere Port isn't even effected by the closure.

 

[Polarbear]

Why is the Ellesmere Port Branch getting a shuttle for the Lime Street Closure. West Allerton is getting a bus for a month, Ellesmere Port isn't even effected by the closure.

I would assume it's because Merseyrail want to have as many 6 car sets on routes such as South Parkway to Liverpool/Southport, and Liverpool - Chester as alternatives.

Maybe they should have taken on some of the former South Eastern 508's when they had the chance?

 

[Green Lane]

I would assume it's because Merseyrail want to have as many 6 car sets on routes such as South Parkway to Liverpool/Southport, and Liverpool - Chester as alternatives.

Maybe they should have taken on some of the former South Eastern 508's when they had the chance?

Indeed, it is mentioned here
https://www.merseyrail.org/lime-street-upgrade/travelling-on-the-wirral-line.aspx

Due to train unit availability across the network, a reduced rail service will run on the Ellesmere Port line...

 

[fowler9]

I would assume it's because Merseyrail want to have as many 6 car sets on routes such as South Parkway to Liverpool/Southport, and Liverpool - Chester as alternatives.

Maybe they should have taken on some of the former South Eastern 508's when they had the chance?

Sorry, of course, that would make sense.

 

[daikilo]

Anyone know if the Hooton - Ellesmere Port will be an EMU or a borrowed DMU or even LHCS (I dream of course)?

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Anyone know if the Hooton - Ellesmere Port will be an EMU or a borrowed DMU or even LHCS?

Always an EMU.
Merseyrail don't do anything else.
It just saves a couple of EMUs for other work (and reduces Hooton-Liverpool to the 4tph Chester trains).