Then I assume it will not take long for Class 800s can use the electicity mode right?Dunbar into Edinburgh certainly gets 385s.
Then I assume it will not take long for Class 800s can use the electicity mode right?Dunbar into Edinburgh certainly gets 385s.
Then I assume it will not take long for Class 800s can use the electicity mode right?
Assuming they've sorted out the signalling interference issues.
I think that's what was delaying things if I remember right.
Then why the Guardian claim that they have to run for years in diesel mode for Edinburgh service? Another case of the unprefessional report?
Poor...If they can't keep time they should use something that can...Azuma through Biggleswade around 5 minutes late
Do not believe any nonsense publised by Guardian when it comes to railway.
Was anyone on today's service?
Yes, I was (just from Wakefield to Leeds). My impression from my short trip was that they aren't a bad train and the public will like them. A few comments:
- More legroom on the airline style seats than Mk.3/Mk.4 stock. I didn't sample the table seats.
- Seat reservation indicators are much clearer than that recently introduced on other LNER stock with red/green 'traffic lights' to show if a seat is reserved or not.
- I would prefer the seats to be a bit softer, but the shape seemed right to me.
- The ride seemed quieter than that of a Mk.4. General ambience of the coach seemed good.
- Each seat now has a charging point rather than just the one by the window. I was surprised they didn't also feature USB charging and mentioned this to David Horne (who, commendably, came round chatting to passengers) and he explained this hadn't really been a common thing when the trains were ordered, but it had been added to FC.
- Unlike the GWR versions, the trains feature a small buffet counter.
I did not beliveve the bellowing sentence:I've had a read of the article online, and there's nothing for anyone to object to.
It's a routine piece closely linked to the LNER PR, with a backwards look at the GWR launch.
Gwyn Topham might not be at the same level of knowledge as some of his predecessors, but he doesn't deserve the pasting of the last few posts.
The Guardian has a good track record of investigative journalism, notably about the 2012 West Coast franchise fiasco.
Yes, I was (just from Wakefield to Leeds). My impression from my short trip was that they aren't a bad train and the public will like them. A few comments:
- More legroom on the airline style seats than Mk.3/Mk.4 stock. I didn't sample the table seats.
- Seat reservation indicators are much clearer than that recently introduced on other LNER stock with red/green 'traffic lights' to show if a seat is reserved or not.
- I would prefer the seats to be a bit softer, but the shape seemed right to me.
- The ride seemed quieter than that of a Mk.4. General ambience of the coach seemed good.
- Each seat now has a charging point rather than just the one by the window. I was surprised they didn't also feature USB charging and mentioned this to David Horne (who, commendably, came round chatting to passengers) and he explained this hadn't really been a common thing when the trains were ordered, but it had been added to FC.
- Unlike the GWR versions, the trains feature a small buffet counter.
I’ve noticed that from pictures there are two variants of First class. Can someone explain to me please?
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I guess they realised the original head cushion looked pathetic and cheap, so they changed it for a design that appears to be similar to the one on EMT HST. If it is the same as that, then it's sadly very unpractical and not comfy at all. Lol!I’ve noticed that from pictures there are two variants of First class. Can someone explain to me please?
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David Horne was also on the last HST “Hull Executive” this evening. I’m not surprised he was talking to the passengers: he is very good at communicating with passengers and staff both in person and by the likes of Twitter. An example that many other TOC MDs would do well to follow.Yes, I was (just from Wakefield to Leeds). My impression from my short trip was that they aren't a bad train and the public will like them. A few comments:
- More legroom on the airline style seats than Mk.3/Mk.4 stock. I didn't sample the table seats.
- Seat reservation indicators are much clearer than that recently introduced on other LNER stock with red/green 'traffic lights' to show if a seat is reserved or not.
- I would prefer the seats to be a bit softer, but the shape seemed right to me.
- The ride seemed quieter than that of a Mk.4. General ambience of the coach seemed good.
- Each seat now has a charging point rather than just the one by the window. I was surprised they didn't also feature USB charging and mentioned this to David Horne (who, commendably, came round chatting to passengers) and he explained this hadn't really been a common thing when the trains were ordered, but it had been added to FC.
- Unlike the GWR versions, the trains feature a small buffet counter.
Yes, I was (just from Wakefield to Leeds). My impression from my short trip was that they aren't a bad train and the public will like them. A few comments:
- More legroom on the airline style seats than Mk.3/Mk.4 stock. I didn't sample the table seats.
- Seat reservation indicators are much clearer than that recently introduced on other LNER stock with red/green 'traffic lights' to show if a seat is reserved or not.
- I would prefer the seats to be a bit softer, but the shape seemed right to me.
- The ride seemed quieter than that of a Mk.4. General ambience of the coach seemed good.
- Each seat now has a charging point rather than just the one by the window. I was surprised they didn't also feature USB charging and mentioned this to David Horne (who, commendably, came round chatting to passengers) and he explained this hadn't really been a common thing when the trains were ordered, but it had been added to FC.
- Unlike the GWR versions, the trains feature a small buffet counter.
I’ve noticed that from pictures there are two variants of First class. Can someone explain to me please?
Has anyone got any comments on the seat comfort since LNER said they’ve modified the seats compared to the GWR ones?
GWR have two different types of base cushion (which, as someone who likes hard seats, is the main issue with them). The newer ones covered with moquette are not entirely dissimilar to a more contoured ironing board seat, the older ones are flimsy and you can feel the supporting bar through them. I believe the LNER seats are the same as the newer GWR type.
Fortunately I understand GWR are replacing the originals with the new type, which will remove most of my objection.
I’ve noticed that from pictures there are two variants of First class. Can someone explain to me please?
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Thank you for that clarification. I wonder what made them change their mind?So, the 1st picture is the headrests that were going to be used, and are the type that came with the train, the 2nd picture is the type that LNER have chosen to use, and actually only arrived in the country on Monday night, and were fitted at Bounds Green.
Couldn't they retrofit USB charging? (Like you can do with electrical sockets at home)
I'd imagine so, it'd just require swapping the socket faceplate.
1st class Azuma menus are now available to view online
https://www.lner.co.uk/the-east-coast-experience/first-class/menu/#seasonalMenu1
I did not beliveve the bellowing sentence:
However, continuing difficulties in upgrading the electrified East Coast line mean that the bi-mode trains will largely be using diesel for years to come.
This is not true, as Newcastle section will be availble to use electic in June and Scottish section already run 385s, there are no such "for years to come", of course in will be true if the Guardian think Aberdeen-Edinburgh and Inverness-Edinburgh section are part of east coast main line.
The Guardian article stated that “continuing difficulties in upgrading the electrified East Coast line mean that the bi-mode trains will largely be using diesel for years to come.”
I asked a question based on this as an earlier post confirmed Colton to Darlington has been cleared. Subsequent answers on this thread have advised good progress is being made. Thanks to those with the info.
To be fair to The Guardian, there was no claim that Edinburgh services will run on diesel. Sounds to me that the journalist has got confused.