IndeedDo I remember rightly that the erstwhile Littlehampton ex Thameslink services will be changing to Electrostars?
IndeedDo I remember rightly that the erstwhile Littlehampton ex Thameslink services will be changing to Electrostars?
Is this made possible by the transfer of 377s from SouthEastern or is there some other shuffle taking place?Indeed
To my knowledge, there are no fleet shuffles involving Southern at the momentIs this made possible by the transfer of 377s from SouthEastern or is there some other shuffle taking place?
Will there be formation cuts as a result of this and the 313 withdrawal? I know some Oxted line services got reduced to 8 car but had 12 car restored again recently. I hope those don't get reduced again!To my knowledge, there are no fleet shuffles involving Southern at the moment
Oxted Line has and will continue to have a mixture of 8 and 12 car trains. Most of the big cuts were last year when the 455s were let goWill there be formation cuts as a result of this and the 313 withdrawal? I know some Oxted line services got reduced to 8 car but had 12 car restored again recently. I hope those don't get reduced again!
The majority of services from my station have been Thameslink 700's since May 2018 and they've performed fine with never a failure of AC/DC c/o in either direction. Only issue ive ever had with a 700 is when a train sat down at Balcombe with an alleged bearing issue. We were all chucked off and the train set off to Brighton albeit at reduced speed but got there and in all probability it was only a sensor failure i suspect.This has been going on to a greater or lesser extent since May 18. Ever since then, except during the period where the really slimmed-down Covid timetables were running, it’s been common to experience what you have described. 700/0 on a 700/1 diagram has always been fairly common on GN (and I don’t mean where 700/0s have been *booked* as has sometimes been the case). Likewise cancellations due to train faults.
Despite my relatively low mileage on them, I’ve had more 700 failures in service than was ever the case with over two decades using 365s where they not once failed mid-journey on me. Indeed I struggle to recall a time when I suffered an outright cancellation due to a failed 365.
Going to throw off even more surplus 700's if that the case.It doesn’t really bode well that they are suffering even with the timetables having been slimmed back compared to pre-Covid. I guess things will improve in May with 387s taking over a chunk of their work on the stopping services, though a by-product of this will likely give us more 700/0 on 700/1 diagrams.
dittoDo I remember rightly that the erstwhile Littlehampton ex Thameslink services will be changing to Electrostars?
Of course, if it is 2 lines then it would be different timings anyway so the base would have to change regardless I'm guessing.They regularly change times with plenty of allowances on Sundays as the base timetable has to assume two line working between Gatwick and Redhill instead of normal 4 line. Different engineering also means different times.
From May the Base timetable on Sundays is changing. Instead of 2 Thameslink services per hour Three Bridges to Bedford and 1 Horsham to London Bridge there will be a 2 per hour service Bedford to Three Bridges/Horsham (alternate trains swap destination - only the Horsham services call at Earlswood/Salfords). Hence the Reading to Gatwick service can now go at full speed.
Noticed that the other day after they were uploaded. Looking like every LNR train showing Standard Class Only. Wonder if it's an error, or something is afoot that they really should have publicised months ago - just 5ish weeks away this timetable.It looks from the timetable data like WMT may be partly or wholly abolishing First Class from May. Can anyone confirm either way?
PPM no longer exists.
Time to 3 effectively is the same thing to an outsider, with similer consequences for missing it.
Oh I absolutely get that except that tonight for example I was on a very busy train from Paddington that was first stop Didcot - when a Reading stop is added in May I suspect it will be rammed!
Technically it does, but it’s not how operator performance is officially measured (with a couple of exceptions)
it is quite different, although they do produce a similar number!
We have confirmed our new timetable which will operate from Monday 22 May 2023.
The new timetable continues to match capacity with demand, with customer numbers at 78% of their total prior to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Peak time travel has recovered to 61% of pre-pandemic levels, meaning demand remains below the network’s available capacity.
A small number of important changes have been made to improve performance and provide better onward travel connections.
I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you would board a Crewe - London fast service at Rugby? Did the timetable usually make this worth while?Completely agree - with Chiltern's slowing down makes me even more inclined to take Avanti. Worst case scenario, LNR to Rugby and change there onto a Crewe flyer into London.
First class tickets are also showing as 'not available' more or less across the board on their booking engine, though I did find one or two early morning exceptions. If it is a change, they are keeping very quiet about it!Noticed that the other day after they were uploaded. Looking like every LNR train showing Standard Class Only. Wonder if it's an error, or something is afoot that they really should have publicised months ago - just 5ish weeks away this timetable.
I presume meaning something like 1Y44 13:36 Birmingham New Street to London Euston, but get off at Rugby at 14:15 to catch 1U32 14:27 (13:13 from Crewe) to Euston arrive 15:24 which is 25 minutes earlier than the arrival time from staying on 1Y44.I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you would board a Crewe - London fast service at Rugby? Did the timetable usually make this worth while?
Then you get me trundling through on my 100 SLU container train, getting given yellow red yellow red, expected to keep moving but with air having to run the whole length of the train for the brakes to release each time....I'm sure you can guess some of the likely candidates
It won't be done LTP at this stage, at least not for the start of the TT.
2 mins engineering allowance, which really isn't enough considering how far some of the services have come. Also nothing for trains from the Airport (unless they stop at all stations, in which case they get a pathetic <0.5> ).
It's the headway and reoccupation values which are the biggest issue though. They're simply unachievable given the signalling layout, as well as the length of modern units and the defensive driving policies that TOCs have adopted.
Are the additional AAP stops for the slow Cambridge/letchworth services really needed?
I suppose if a train is running late, we'll see Alexandra Palace skipped in a heartbeat!
Chester to Liverpool service over the Halton Curve is running again.
No local South wales ones thoughThe public timetable at https://timetables.fabdigital.uk/nrt/may2023/ seems reasonably complete now, it may be missing some tables but the ones I was looking for are all there now.
There has been a lot of late notice changes to the timetable data recently, and I know Brian puts in a lot of effort to manually manipulate and ensure the accuracy of the tables - a very timely process. So I'm sure they'll be online before too long.No local South wales ones though
2 hourly for the last 3 years sadlyThink that’s been mentioned already as isn’t it only 2-hourly?
Indeed, with TOCS posting endless revisions every night it would be a pointless task creating the tables only to have to do them again, for example the Chiltern mainline is now on its 3rd iteration and TFW are posting endless revisions, although it does seem to have now settled down! As an update, there are now only about 23 tables left to and these will be posted soon, SW routes first, then SN, then SE, then TFW, then the miscellaneous rag bag that are the last NT and TP tablesThere has been a lot of late notice changes to the timetable data recently, and I know Brian puts in a lot of effort to manually manipulate and ensure the accuracy of the tables - a very timely process. So I'm sure they'll be online before too long.
However, if there's a specific route you're after, I can send you a copy of the May timetable (albeit not the Fabdigital version, I'm afraid.)
Thanks for the update, Brian, you do a great job and you're made very busy by all the revisions for sure. It's just so good to have someone who cares doing this job now, and although it's not good that the timetable isn't finalised yet, you're the victim and the messenger and not the cause.Indeed, with TOCS posting endless revisions every night it would be a pointless task creating the tables only to have to do them again, for example the Chiltern mainline is now on its 3rd iteration and TFW are posting endless revisions, although it does seem to have now settled down! As an update, there are now only about 23 tables left to and these will be posted soon, SW routes first, then SN, then SE, then TFW, then the miscellaneous rag bag that are the last NT and TP tables