McGill's Buses - Renfrewshire & Inverclyde

[Gingerbus1991]

Yeah, I have noticed as well that the train fares with scotrail are not overly expensive against Firsts ticket prices, but there are most likely many more who could still be using buses but choose not too through sheer convenience, again in contrast to edinburgh you get a feeling more people across there are happier using the buses regardless if they have a train or not.

Evident by East Coast Buses who have turned a decent profit to date yet compete against the trains on a few places they go.

If the public in paisley, greenock and Glasgow don't have a healthy attitude towards bus travel you certainly aren't going to have the passengers.

 

[overthewater]

Most of the train stations around renfrewshire are busy most of the time. Even on a 30min service an off peak train can pick up alot.

 

[Volvodart]

So are the services continuing to operate or are they offloading the lot? McGills don’t seem averse to long, empty runs given some of the Ring & Ride services in the east end of Glasgow run with I depot code orange Solos

https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news...mcgills-east-renfrewshire-depot-set-to-close/

This depot closure consultation is a result of a business wide review that will also involve the cancellation of routes.

 

[overthewater]

If anything, it will be

* 3 Glasgow - Barrhead - It just so slow... ( its one of the route you would think why hasn't Mcgill competed on every 10mins just south of Silverburn) Its not fast.
* 6 Paisley - Silverburn
* 52 barrhead local would be one, Mcgills has never liked that route.

 

[christopherrfc]

United buses have registered a new service 13 between barggedie and Coatbridge

Bus registration details

• Registration number
  PM1074566/4
• Licence Number
  PM1074566

• Variation number
  0

• Status
  Registered

• Service number.
  13,

• Service type
  Normal Stopping

• Start point
  Bargeddie, Dykehead Road
• Finish point
  Bargeddie, Dykehead Road
• Via
  Coatbridge

• Date received
  31 Dec 2018
• Effective date
  11 Feb 2019
• End date

• Supported by subsidies?
  No

• Local authorities covered by route
  Strathclyde Partnership for Transport

• TAOs covered by route
  Scotland

 

[christopherrfc]

And a service 2 between Coatbridge and Kirkshaws

Bus registration details

• Registration number
  PM1074566/5
• Licence Number
  PM1074566

• Variation number
  0

• Status
  Registered

• Service number.
  2,

• Service type
  Normal Stopping

• Start point
  South Circular Road, Coatbridge
• Finish point
  South Circular Road, Coatbridge
• Via
  Kirkshaws

• Date received
  31 Dec 2018
• Effective date
  11 Feb 2019
• End date

• Supported by subsidies?
  No

• Local authorities covered by route
  Strathclyde Partnership for Transport

• TAOs covered by route
  Scotland

 

[smtglasgow]

If anything, it will be

* 3 Glasgow - Barrhead - It just so slow... ( its one of the route you would think why hasn't Mcgill competed on every 10mins just south of Silverburn) Its not fast.
* 6 Paisley - Silverburn
* 52 barrhead local would be one, Mcgills has never liked that route.

Didn’t Arriva run the 3 from Inchinnan at one point? I think McGills may be looking to get rid of some of their SPT routes. They went on a spree over the last few years and have ended up with routes that are remote from any depot. I wonder if the genius who thought Monklands was a good idea – after their experience in the Vale of Leven - still works for them.

 

[AlexanderPS]

Wonder if the 2 includes Shawhead or if we are waiting on another registration for the 6?

 

[overthewater]

I can't see Mcgills 213 staying and the SPT 106 will be gone soon aswell. So Untied has gotten back all the routes Silverdale/Stepend sold

 

[Observer]

United should really get their own thread at this point. It does seem they recently took ownership of a few more Solos though so expansion was going to happen anyway, especially since the Traffic Commissioner increased their authorisation to nine vehicles.

 

[christopherrfc]

Mcgills are to lose more coatbridge contracts with the following services

213 to McNairn coaches
16/117 to McNairn coaches
312 to McNairn Coaches
147/147a/247 to Jmb travel

http://www.spt.co.uk/documents/latest/Ops250119_Agenda8.pdf

 

[overthewater]

Then coatbridge will shut then. There is no point. Im sure someone will take over 215 to kirkwood etc if I was jmb i would try for 215 and 287..

 

[AlexanderPS]

http://www.spt.co.uk/documents/latest/Ops250119_Agenda8.pdf

Interesting list of tenders. McNairn also picking up the 101/181 which has been in the hands of Stuart's of Carluke for around 15 years.

Are we expecting the Coatbridge Depot to close?

 

[overthewater]

What's left in the depot? 2 buses for 215. 1 bus for 287.. And some other spt work which i'm sure could move to other depots.

 

[christopherrfc]

Which depots would you suggest the other services go to

 

[overthewater]

It could Save Barrhead for a little while with the extra work put in.

 

[Observer]

Just a reminder that those are only recommendations, the operators chosen may end up not taking the work for various reasons, which has happened before.

 

[Volvodart]

BUS firm McGill's is extending its Greenock head office as two of its Renfrewshire depots face the axe.

https://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk...e-as-two-of-its-renfrewshire-depots-face-axe/

BUS firm McGill's is extending its Greenockhead office as two of its Renfrewshire depots face the axe.

The company, owned by local businessmen Sandy and James Easdale, is shutting its Inchinnan base with all staff being transferred to its Larkfield Industrial Estate building.

More roles could also be transferred to the Earnhill Road site, with bosses mulling over the future of the firm's Barrhead garage.

Head office operations are currently split between Greenock and Inchinnan and company chiefs had previously discussed quitting Inverclyde in favour of a permanent move to Renfrewshire.
But they have now opted to retain the Larkfield depot, safeguarding local jobs.

Ralph Roberts, McGill's managing director, said: "Our head office had been split between Inchinnan and Greenock.

"We previously looked at relocating to Renfrewshire and out of Inverclyde. "We were looking at whether we do everything in Paisley or down here.


"All staff are moving down to Inverclyde and we're extending the head office from February 4. "We're bringing more jobs to Inverclyde and, although they are jobs that currently exist, it brings more people down here."

The company says it is being forced to make savings because of a number of factors, mainly due to falling passenger numbers across the network.

There will be no job losses as a result of the Inchinnan closure, with all staff being relocated to Greenock.

Some roles would be lost if McGill's chiefs go ahead with shutting the Barrhead depot.

A final decision has yet to be made but staff have been sent a letter outlining the potential implications.

McGill's employs around 1,000 staff and operates 450 buses across 110 routes throughout Inverclyde, Renfrewshire, Glasgow and the west coast.

The company has depots in Johnstone and Coatbridge as well.

 

[smtglasgow]

You’d think that with so many losses Coatbridge depot would be under threat, but they only seem to be consulting on Barrhead. Does Coatbridge also work the remaining ex-Henderson routes to Kirkintilloch and East End ones like the 310, 329 and 364? Assuming it stays open, it’s going to be a very small depot. They had a decent chance to make an impact in Lanarkshire, but seem to blown it.

 

[Volvodart]

Mcgills are holding a public meeting next Wednesday in Renfrew for the public to review proposed changes to the 23 and X23.

 

[overthewater]

Blown it? there screwed up badly and come in far too late ( just like lothian in west lothian) Mcgills just stop and make cuts after cuts after cuts.

Mcgills are holding a public meeting next Wednesday in Renfrew for the public to review proposed changes to the 23 and X23.

What else could be done to the 23s

 

[smtglasgow]

The 23 between Braehead and the city can be dead – maybe just run more X23s and tweak the 26 to cover more of the 23? Stagecoach must have taken some of the Govan passengers – presumably they’re cheaper?

 

[overthewater]

Stagecoach X19 is a lot faster and goes a different way to 23 and 26. Mind you the bus has to compete with the Subway.

 

[route101]

I thought the 23 done quite well with no first bus competing to Govan.

In Renfrewshire the train is a lot quicker , whos taking the bus from Johnstone to Glasgow?

 

[groundhog]

well no wonder the place is the way it is,, closing depots, not issuing holidays to current staff members who give valid notice, bullying staff and changing shifts at the last minute.. i know many staff who lost a significant amount of holidays last year...! no wonder people don't want to work for them..

 

[smtglasgow]

Do McGills recognise trade unions? I know the unions are pretty weak these days, but looking after staff grievances should be their bread and butter. Last year’s story about the pay rise being declined because of m-ticket fraud (adults buying child tickets) seemed odd at the time, but presumably the bosses knew that profits were diving.

 

[Observer]

You’d think that with so many losses Coatbridge depot would be under threat, but they only seem to be consulting on Barrhead. Does Coatbridge also work the remaining ex-Henderson routes to Kirkintilloch and East End ones like the 310, 329 and 364? Assuming it stays open, it’s going to be a very small depot. They had a decent chance to make an impact in Lanarkshire, but seem to blown it.

Anything with a C fleet number is Coatbridge.

As for trade unions, they certainly didn't recognise them years ago. Not sure if it's the case still.

 

[Gingerbus1991]

Its funny how they talk about technology advancing and like to make a fanfare of Contactless ticket machines and The M-Ticket app, but its causing them to feel a pinch, profit wise because of fraud.

Simply remove child tickets from the app!

 

[christopherrfc]

another service being withdrawn this time service 907

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2298338683511126&id=124031230941893

 

[Anthony ross]

Could this be signalling the end of McGill’s I wonder