barrowjack
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I disagree, they are light years better than the 14x / 15x they are replacing.
Maybe, but far worse than the 185's we had on the Airport runs before!
I disagree, they are light years better than the 14x / 15x they are replacing.
The long number is the EVN or European Vehicle Number and is a composite of several parts. The first 2 numbers are the type of vehicle. The second 2 are the country code. The next 7 are the vehicle number and the last one is a computer check number.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UIC_identification_marking_for_tractive_stock
It is indeed a mismatch.I don't know if this has been mentioned on here, but I saw this at Leeds on Monday.
195115 with the long number that didn't match its coach identifier.
Also coach 103 had 102115 on its carriage as spotted from the other side when leaving the station.
Is this correct or a mismatch?
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195001 on its own on an MIA to Lime Street just now, I didn't even bother trying to get on at South Parkway. This is taking the Mick now. They used to be pairs of 156's, now we have less seats than a 142. Are they trying to put people off taking the train.
I dream of pairs of 156's these days. Ha ha .I travelled back to LPY from MIA this morning. Just missed the 09.50, so caught the TPE Edinburgh service to get to Oxford Road, only to find the EMT from Norwich failed at Sheffield. The 10.46 MCO to LIV stopper was on time so caught that to LPY. It was fairly busy, but not rammed! It was a 142 + 156 and very draughty.
It's the EVN that's wrong! It should contain the group 102115 rather than 103115. The check digit may be wrong as well - I don't have time to do the calculation at the moment.It is indeed a mismatch.
It's the EVN that's wrong! It should contain the group 102115 rather than 103115. The check digit may be wrong as well - I don't have time to do the calculation at the moment.
First eastbound trip today on a 195 from Manchester to Halifax, and just before arriving at Hebden Bridge there was an automated announcement that the train wouldn’t all fit in the platform and not all doors would open. It was a 3 carriage train and it fitted very comfortably. How can this happen?
It happens all the time. Still problems with the ASDO system I believe. Perhaps they should switch it off and go back to the guard verifying the platform is there.First eastbound trip today on a 195 from Manchester to Halifax, and just before arriving at Hebden Bridge there was an automated announcement that the train wouldn’t all fit in the platform and not all doors would open. It was a 3 carriage train and it fitted very comfortably. How can this happen?
You’re correct. You can use a check digit calculator.The check digit is correct for the code as applied, but was calculated with the incorrect data.
Assuming the correct code is 102115, the check digit is 4, so the full code would be:
957001021154*
*This also assumes I understand the check digit algorithm!
Maybe, but far worse than the 185's we had on the Airport runs before!
If you search for Llama's posts in the thread, I think they have done a few excellent ones that describe the braking system in detail and also how drivers need to adapt their driving style to make some of the onboard systems work. Off the top, the 195s have a dynamic retarder which blends to pure pneumatic at low speeds. The ASDO system requires the units to be stopped in a very specific point on some (shorter) platforms, particularly at complex stations like Manchester Oxford Road, so there's a chance the repeated applications were from a driver trying to make sure they lined up.Hello everyone newbie here. I have only joined as a rail user I'm not an enthusiast although I was a coach builder working on C1 and Glossops etc at Horwich in the early eighties !!
So I'm here to ask what's wrong with these new Spanish trains used by Northern. Firstly the boogies make a loud clunk clunk and the brakes aren't linear they seem to take about 3 applications to stop then it's all of a sudden most disconcerting. So if someone can elaborate if these are known issues (Oh and they are noisey) then please let me know....
Two brand-new Class 195 diesel trains have been introduced this week, ahead of the proposed main introduction on Sunday 15 December.
Early completion of driver and crew training and the completion of compliance testing along the route has enabled the introduction.
The two trains, are part of a £500m investment in 101 new trains across the north of England, and customers in Leeds, Wakefield, Sheffield, Barnsley, Lincoln and Nottingham will benefit from the latest of these state of the art vehicles.
The new trains are the 34th and 35th units to be brought into service since July and, by next week, 52 will be in operation across the network.
Finally some good news: Northern are saying that "early completion of driver and crew training and the completion of compliance testing along the route" has allowed the early introduction of two 195s on Leeds-Nottingham and Sheffield-Lincoln services.
https://media.northernrailway.co.uk...hire-east-midlands-and-lincolnshire-customers
Excellent, this is my journey to work. Time to see what the bike spaces are like...
I think you will prefer the 158 (air con problems excepted) to the 195 particularly if your sat over the front bogie.Still a 158 yesterday and this morning. Hopefully I'll get on one soon.
On a 3-coach 195 operating the 09.47 from Piccadilly to Barrow and we arrived at Preston ten minutes early, despite the train being two minutes late setting off from the airport and waiting for a few minutes after being early at Wigan. Looks like the December timetable only takes a single minute off the wait here, will the may timetable significantly speed things up once all the 195s are in service?
That journey also has 5.5 mins of allowances between Wigan and Preston. When all's well, it's common for the 195s to get into Wigan and Preston with a comfortable 5 mins in hand.That one looks like it took advantage of a Wembley - Irvine freight not running, though no doubt the extra pace of a 195 was able to exploit it more than some other units would have been able to.