Northern Pacer Withdrawals - Info?

[Chris217]

Looks like 142 withdrawals
are gathering pace!
er?

 

[Bezza49]

Yep, 019

Saw 142019 just last Saturday in Preston. It was stabled at the North end of the station adjacent to the old RES platform. A surprise because it was a Heaton unit, only the second time I'd seen it since my 2016 comeback, the other time being at Lincoln Central in 2017.

As it stands, its the last Pacer i've seen and 142046 the last I've seen actually moving.

 

[Ewan M]

Did 142088, 093 and 096 reach their final resting place today? Or are they still stuck at Derby pending completion of the necessary paperwork?

Also could there be any potential clearance issues when it comes to Pacers being moved from Worksop/Gascoigne Wood to Newport Docks for scrapping as I understand that there are some sections of track that haven't been traversed by a Pacer before or for a very long while

 

[Paul_10]

Afternoon Pacing 11/12/19
Meadowhall: 142095 1315 Sheffield- Leeds ...keeping as far from Hull - Sheffield diagrams as possible and onward to Worksop...doomed .

So for clarity as your post is not the clearest(at least in my eyes) is 142095 on its way to Worksop? It would appear its not.

If so the pacers that are no longer in public service are 142005/09/16//19/22/25/29/33/39/44/50/52/64/66/88/93/96. Any that I have missed?

So 17 pacers have now been removed with many more still to come? It's all better late than never but it is sad too see them go though.

 

[IamTrainsYT]

142037 has gone, 142009 not

 

[Paul_10]

142037 has gone, 142009 not

But its not in public service and is still stored at Heaton? I forgotten about 142037, thanks for that.

 

[IamTrainsYT]

So we’re talking about warm stored aswell? I’ll have a look later. There are quite a few

 

[Killingworth]

142089 was looking weary on the late running 10.49 out of Piccadilly, shown here having been made to wait over 10 minutes to clear railway's Bermuda triangle between the three Dore junctions. Started 3 minutes down and finished down 17.

Started back 10 minutes late and arrived in Piccadilly 11 down.

Was only 2 minutes late out of Piccadilly on next run arriving in Sheffield 4 down.

Had kept to time back west when passing Chinley North.

 

[Paul_10]

So we’re talking about warm stored aswell? I’ll have a look later. There are quite a few

I think for all intents and purposes, 142009 service days are over as its apparently not been used since October when it got transfered upto Heaton.

 

[IamTrainsYT]

142089 was looking weary on the late running 10.49 out of Piccadilly, shown here having been made to wait over 10 minutes to clear railway's Bermuda triangle between the three Dore junctions. Started 3 minutes down and finished down 17.

Started back 10 minutes late and arrived in Piccadilly 11 down.

Was only 2 minutes late out of Piccadilly on next run arriving in Sheffield 4 down.

Had kept to time back west when passing Chinley North.



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Sheffield to Manchester absolutely full of pacers today! I saw 142036 and 142090 at hope

 

[Killingworth]

Sheffield to Manchester absolutely full of pacers today! I saw 142036 and 142090
At hope

Strange goings on today. The 8.24 from Dore to Sheffield was showing on the CIS at the station and online as being cancelled. Odd, because it was also showing as stopping at Grindleford and Sheffield! It stopped at Dore and left at 8.26. Meanwhile some potential passengers had gone for the bus!

 

[ohgoditsjames]

Strange goings on today. The 8.24 from Dore to Sheffield was showing on the CIS at the station and online as being cancelled. Odd, because it was also showing as stopping at Grindleford and Sheffield! It stopped at Dore and left at 8.26. Meanwhile some potential passengers had gone for the bus!

Not the bus on the rails then?

 

[Killingworth]

Not the bus on the rails then?

Nowt so queer as folk because the EMR 158 service due at 8.28 was only 8 minutes late today, arriving Sheffield 6 down. It's so often late some rely on that. The bus at that time takes at least 30 minutes against 6-8 by rail.

 

[IamTrainsYT]

Strange goings on today. The 8.24 from Dore to Sheffield was showing on the CIS at the station and online as being cancelled. Odd, because it was also showing as stopping at Grindleford and Sheffield! It stopped at Dore and left at 8.26. Meanwhile some potential passengers had gone for the bus!

Hm, sounds strange. Everything seemed to be running quite late

 

[Killingworth]

Hm, sounds strange. Everything seemed to be running quite late

Hope Valley is a line for walkers, outdoor tourists and hardy Peak District folk. Seems it's now gaining a new market, Pacer spotters and those wanting a last ride!

To those proposing to pay a visit, beware. Northern's random unit generator might send out a 150, 156 or 158. Worse, it's almost certain to be late, the betting is it will be at least 3-5 minute late . All the Hope Valley stations feature in the current worst 25 in the country for punctuality - and that's not the fault of Pacers.

 

[ed1971]

Ah 142050, the final unit of the first batch of 142s and the first unit trial fitted with the Cummins engine and Voith transmission. Bit historically significant in the annals of Pacer development, that one.

142050 was indeed the only Class 142 built with Voith gearboxes (I have seen a picture of it's new underframe in a rail magazine from the time it was built), but it had Leyland TL11 engines. The unit that was first trialed with Cummins engines was Class 141, 141113.

 

[ed1971]

Angel Trains has announced plans to sell the out-of-service Class 142 units, with all resulting proceeds to be donated to charity:
https://www.globalrailwayreview.com...offered-heritage-railways-emergency-services/

 

[trainmania100]

Did 142088, 093 and 096 reach their final resting place today? Or are they still stuck at Derby pending completion of the necessary paperwork?

Also could there be any potential clearance issues when it comes to Pacers being moved from Worksop/Gascoigne Wood to Newport Docks for scrapping as I understand that there are some sections of track that haven't been traversed by a Pacer before or for a very long while

Still there I think

 

[IamTrainsYT]

Hope Valley is a line for walkers, outdoor tourists and hardy Peak District folk. Seems it's now gaining a new market, Pacer spotters and those wanting a last ride!

To those proposing to pay a visit, beware. Northern's random unit generator might send out a 150, 156 or 158. Worse, it's almost certain to be late, the betting is it will be at least 3-5 minute late . All the Hope Valley stations feature in the current worst 25 in the country for punctuality - and that's not the fault of Pacers.

I travel every day, usually it’s a 150/1 and once I have been an hour late

 

[IamTrainsYT]

Still there I think

It’s likely, I have seen no movements today

 

[Ken Bromage]

Move in RTT rescheduled for Thursday

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/se...19-12-12/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

 

[eastwestdivide]

Did 142088, 093 and 096 reach their final resting place today? Or are they still stuck at Derby pending completion of the necessary paperwork?

Also could there be any potential clearance issues when it comes to Pacers being moved from Worksop/Gascoigne Wood to Newport Docks for scrapping as I understand that there are some sections of track that haven't been traversed by a Pacer before or for a very long while

I photographed an Arriva Wales 142 going through S Yorkshire en route back home from attention at Doncaster Works in 2015, so it's not such a long time since one's been that way.

 

[sprinterguy]

142050 was indeed the only Class 142 built with Voith gearboxes (I have seen a picture of it's new underframe in a rail magazine from the time it was built), but it had Leyland TL11 engines. The unit that was first trialed with Cummins engines was Class 141, 141113.

Ah, I did wonder about that soon after I posted, but didn't have a chance to check. Thanks for the correction.

 

[Killingworth]

Angel Trains has announced plans to sell the out-of-service Class 142 units, with all resulting proceeds to be donated to charity:
https://www.globalrailwayreview.com...offered-heritage-railways-emergency-services/

I'm trying to imagine a Pacer refitted as a fire engine, ambulance or lifeboat

 

[Roger100]

142032, 067, 068, 070 and 084 all running Saltburn - Darlington - Bishop Auckland on Wednesday. This one proclaims it was going to Blackpool, but apparently the winder handle had broken off.

 

[simon7929]

I think for all intents and purposes, 142009 service days are over as its apparently not been used since October when it got transfered upto Heaton.

Number 15 will most likely never run again also. Dumped at Heaton with an engine fault with 009.

 

[palmersears]

Move in RTT rescheduled for Thursday

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/se...19-12-12/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

Cancelled.

 

[Murray J]

142088,093 and 096 leaving Sheffield.

 

[BR 45111]

So for clarity as your post is not the clearest(at least in my eyes) is 142095 on its way to Worksop? It would appear its not.

If so the pacers that are no longer in public service are 142005/09/16//19/22/25/29/33/39/44/50/52/64/66/88/93/96. Any that I have missed?

So 17 pacers have now been removed with many more still to come? It's all better late than never but it is sad too see them go though.

Not on its way yesterday anyway , sorry if things wern’t clear

 

[superkev]

Something heading Newton Heath to Heaton for Pacer replacement.
Probably some 156s as mentioned earlier on here somewhere.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S11945/2019-12-12/detailed
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