PHILIPE
Veteran Member
I meant the units that used to be with Scotrail, now repainted and refurbished to Northern spec
Silly me. They are all ex Scotrail
I meant the units that used to be with Scotrail, now repainted and refurbished to Northern spec
not all the units are in Northern livery yet, around half are still in Scot Rail colours.I meant the units that used to be with Scotrail, now repainted and refurbished to Northern spec
Yes. The first services that this batch of ex-Scotrail 170s ran for Northern were on the Harrogate line, in May 2018. We've likely seen all of them on there at one time or another.I meant the units that used to be with Scotrail, now repainted and refurbished to Northern spec
The west side plan for 331s is Stoke/ Hazel Grove to Blackpool, Manchester Airport to Blackpool, Hadfield and Liverpool to Blackpool. Crewe to Liverpool will be remaining as 319/323.
Hence why I put it as "/ Havel Grove" as internally they're grouped together.There is only one Stoke - Blackpool service and northbound only (0624 Mon-Sat).
I’ve noticed the 3 car 158’s (158752-9) are now appearing more regular on some Leeds-Carlisle services since the introduction of 195’s on the Calder Valley route.
Only a temporary improvement for Southport, since the Leeds and Blackburn services are being cut back to Wigan Wallgate from the December TT change. Unlikely that 158s will be seen on the replacement Southport to Alderley Edge and Stalybridge services.Southport has definitely seen an improvement, many trains are booked 158s now, even some of the Southport-Blackburns via Copy Pit.
A lot of Tees services now 156/158. I had my first refurbished 158 Middlesbrough to Darlington on Tuesday. USB plugs and WiFi, but I couldn’t get to the WiFi log in page - is it set up yet?There's been a lot of discussion about new units arriving and old units being withdrawn, but very little about internal cascades of 150s/156s/158s.
Can anyone summarise which routes have benefited from DMUs freed up by the latest tranche of 195s working Leeds-Chester?
158s have been cropping up on the Penistone line, though I'm told this is a temporary thing to do with the leaf fall season rather than a "cascade" as such.There's been a lot of discussion about new units arriving and old units being withdrawn, but very little about internal cascades of 150s/156s/158s.
Can anyone summarise which routes have benefited from DMUs freed up by the latest tranche of 195s working Leeds-Chester?
150104 was on the 16.20 from Scarborough to Hull on Thursday. I wonder if there will be more of those coming over to the east especially for the Hull to Sheffield all stations service - which is currently Pacer operated.
Interesting. When the 769s start to enter service, I fear we will see more cancellations and short workings due to a shortage of crew with the required combination of traction and route knowledge. As currently with the 195s.And from March, if what we have been told is correct and 769s make an appearance on the Southport-Alderley Edges, either Piccadilly crews are going to have to be trained on 769s or Wigan crews are going to have to learn Alderley Edge (again - they used to sign it until about ten years ago). As far as I know Wigan crew will be the first to be trained on 769s.
A 158 now forms the 1700 Piccadilly to Huddersfield, the first time I've seen a regular Northern 158 working from the main shed at Piccadilly for some time.
What does it work off? Can't ever remember a Northern 158 in the shed either!
I hope the Hull trains are 6 car in peaks by then or its going to be chaos without the northern peak busters.For now. We will no longer work Piccadilly - Huddersfield Peak busters from December