Northern Unit Refurbishments

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  1. Harvey B

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    Is that 185 as in the amount of units required? If so I would have thought it would have ben more to run an average timetable
     
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    Coronavirus does not require an average timetable
     
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    As it was a brief was sent out this morning, and units went into service with no working TrainFX system, so no PA or cab to cab function.
    I did however end up working the 319 that refuses to update to anything from the original set of codes given to it in early 2015, so I had a working PA system.....
     
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    Just a gentle reminder that this thread is to discuss Northern Unit Refurbishments

    We absolutely do welcome people discussing other topics on the forum, but we do ask that separate threads are created to discuss these :)
     
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    With the Corona19 are the various works still doing the interior refreshes or have they stepped down to just routine maintenance?
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    There is a 156 at Eastleigh that work seems to be going on at a steady pace to transform from Scotrail to Northern.
     
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    I have a feeling that could be 156485 as that was in a worse state than the other cascaded 156s
     
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    It would probably envolve a complete strip out new seats and everything. Plus a missing gangway door? New toilet etc
     
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    Reported on the Scotish HST introduction thread that Wabtek Kilmarnock is rumoured to be under threat. With PRM work drawing to a close and new trains entering service perhaps more will follow.
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    I have been trying to keep my own list of Northern PRM, and interior refurb progress largely from 507021s blog and info from here and elsewhere
    It's got a bit behind but below is my take on the class 150 DMUs st⁸ill requiring PRM or the various levels of interior refresh. I do other classes later. Any errors or corrections needed are very welcome.

    Class 150/1 s 1 to PRM 24 requiring various levels of refurb.
    1. PRM. 150 111 at Doncaster
    2. Prm modded awaiting the various levels of refurb
    150 101, 104, 105, 106, 107, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 117, 118, 121, 128, 129, 130, 131, 134, 135, 140, 141, 148, 150 of which 105, 115, 128 are at Crewe and 134 is at Wolverton.

    Class 150/2 s - 1 in works for PRM and 14 awaiting various levels refurb.
    1. At Doncster for PRM and repaint 150 210
    2. PRM modded awaiting refurb. 150 201, 203, 205, 206, 209, 210, 215, 218, 224, 225, 226, 275, 276, 277.
    150 209 has PRM mods only but no bathroom.
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    218 and 226 are back and in traffic. 226 still in purple but PRM mods complete.
     
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    9 down, 8 to go.
    How come only the one movement today or is it to do with this coronavirus?
     
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    Thanks if updated previous post.
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    Yep that's the date I saw it going down aswell.
     
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    Not sure I'm afraid. Just happened to see it at Crewe.
     
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    I make it 10 that have gone in: 323226-230/232/234/236/238/239 with 7 having come out: 226/228/229/234/236/238/239.
     
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    232 is the one going for refurb.
     
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    Duplicate
     
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    I've tried to do an up to date list of where the DMU refurbishments are and liveries plus any notable changes, any corrections or amendments welcome.

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    Liveries

    Northern livery with logos
    Unbranded Northern livery
    Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
    Unbranded First Scotrail Barbie
    Unbranded London Midland livery
    Unbranded FGW Blue


    Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation
    # – Digital Train Modifications complete (USB, CCTV, additional PIS screens)
    NCM - Northern Connect Mods (Seat reservations)
    FGW – First Great Western
    Prototype refurbishment – light blue seat backs, Arriva turquoise grab poles, cream coloured end walls

    150101 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    150102 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    150103 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

    150104 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
    150105 - Unrefurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
    150106 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
    150107 - Unrefurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
    150108 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
    150109 - Unrefurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
    150110 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
    150111 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats (in works, Doncaster)

    150112 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    150113 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
    150114 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
    150115 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats

    150116 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    150117 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
    150118 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats

    150119 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
    150120 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats

    150121 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
    150122 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
    150123 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    150124 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    150125 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    150126 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

    150127 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
    150128 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
    150129 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
    150130 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
    150131 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats

    150132 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    150133 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
    150134 – Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

    150135 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    150136 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    150137 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    150138 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    150139 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
    150140 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    150141 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    150142 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    150143 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    150144 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    150145 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
    150146 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    150147 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

    150148 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    150149 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    150150 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

    150120,123 retain Silverlink NSE blue wall carpet

    150201 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    150203 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    150204 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    150205 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    150206 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats

    150209 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats (no toilet)
    150210 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats (in works, Doncaster)
    150211 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    150214 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats

    150215 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    150218 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

    # 150220 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    150222 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    150223 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

    150224 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    150225 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

    150226 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
    150228 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
    # 150268 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
    # 150269 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
    # 150270 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    # 150271 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
    # 150272 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    # 150273 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
    # 150274 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
    # 150275 – Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
    # 150276 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
    # 150277 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats


    150205 has a row of seats that were incorrectly fitted in a bay layout on refurb

    155341 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    155342 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    155343 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    155344 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    155345 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    155346 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette Chapman seats
    155347 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats


    # 156420 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    156421 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
    # 156423 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    # 156424 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

    156425 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Wolverton)
    156426 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    # 156427 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    156428 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
    156429 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Wolverton)
    156438 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats

    # 156440 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
    156441 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
    156443 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156444 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats

    156447 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
    156448 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156449 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
    # 156451 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
    156452 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    156454 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
    156459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

    156460 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    156461 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

    156463 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156464 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    156465 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
    156466 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    156468 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
    156469 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156471 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156472 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156475 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156479 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156480 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156481 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156482 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156483 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156484 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats

    156485 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
    156486 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156487 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156488 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156489 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156490 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156491 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
    156496 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Eastleigh)


    Refurbished units with Richmond seats but no Digital Train Modifications retain floor carpet, this is replaced during Digital Train Modification

    158752 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
    158753 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
    158754 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158755 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158756 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
    158757 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158758 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158759 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats


    158782 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158784 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158786 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158787 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158789 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158790 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158791 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats

    158792 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158793 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158794 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158795 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158796 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats

    158797 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158815 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    158816 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    158817 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    158842 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    158843 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
    158844 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats

    # 158845 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats, NCM complete
    158848 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    # 158849 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats, NCM complete
    158850 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158851 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158853 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158855 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158859 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats

    158860 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Bristol Barton Hill)
    158861 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
    158867 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158868 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158869 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158870 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158871 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

    158872 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

    158901 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158902 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158903 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158904 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158905 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158906 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158907 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158908 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158909 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
    158910 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats


    158752 has cream coloured end walls instead of navy blue

    158752-759, 782, 867-871 retain the parcels cupboard in the 57 end vehicle

    170453 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170454 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170455 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170456 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170457 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170458 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170459 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170460 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170461 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170472 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170473 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170474 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170475 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170476 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170477 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
    170478 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats


    170453-458 retain an old first class section (declassified) at each end of the train
     
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    It is 496 at Eastleigh.
     
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    Thats been there ages now, is eastleigh a new place for Northern units to be sent to for refurbishment?
     
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    only the former scotrail units
     
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    So this must be the first ex-ScotRail unit to go down then & whats taking it so long if its not the first unit
     
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    seen pics of it on one of the facebook groups stripped down.
     
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    Here's an up to date list of where the EMU refurbishments are and liveries plus any notable changes, any corrections or amendments welcome. I've included the 319s that went off lease.

    Key

    Liveries

    Northern livery with logos
    Unbranded Northern livery
    Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
    Old Serco-Abellio Northern red and blue
    Unbranded Thameslink White/Blue


    FCC - First Capital Connect
    Units not in bold are now off lease
    Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation (except 319373)

    319361 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
    319362 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
    319363 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
    319364 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats

    319365 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
    319366 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
    319367 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
    319368 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
    319369 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
    319370 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats

    319371 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
    319372 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
    319373 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
    319374 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
    319375 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
    319376 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
    319377 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats

    319378 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
    319379 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats

    319380 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
    319381 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
    319382 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
    319383 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
    319384 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
    319385 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
    319386 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats

    319446 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior

    769424 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
    769431 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
    769434 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
    769442 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
    769448 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
    769450 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
    769456 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
    769458 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats


    319367 has additional PIS screens fitted although never used
    319446 and all Northern 769s retain a declassified first class section

    323223 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
    323224 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
    323225 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats

    323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
    323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

    323230 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
    323231 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats

    323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
    323233 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
    323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    323235 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
    323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    323237 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
    323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats


    333001 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333002 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333003 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333004 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333005 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333006 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333007 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333008 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333009 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Derby RTC for Bogic Bolster crack repairs)
    333010 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333011 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333012 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333013 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333014 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
    333015 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

    333016 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
     
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