Therefore there is no question of the Board decreeing that there should be such things as groupwide tickets.
But imagine if there was, they could call it WellGood, how cool is that!
I'll take my consultancy fee now!
Therefore there is no question of the Board decreeing that there should be such things as groupwide tickets.
Hey, they've got to keep Stenning happy!TrentBarton - The really expensive bus company!
TrentBarton - The really expensive bus company!
Haven't we gone through this before? My single from Mickleover to Derby has recently gone up but is £2.30 cash or £1.96 Mango, on brand new buses running frequently all day 7 days a week, and with no competition. Outside PTE areas, is that really expensive? Arriva in Crewe will charge me more than that for the less than 1 mile trip to the rail station.
It could be said that not only Mango fares but almost all fares are capped by virtue of the Zig-Zag ticket but that throws up some annoying anomalies. Take for example someone who wishes to travel on The Nines from Derby to the Designer Outlet at South Normanton. A two trip ticket will cost £7.70 whilst a zig-zag is £6. But are all intending passengers told about this?
Another example is someone from Coalville who wishes to visit Nottingham, a two trip ticket is £9.90, zig-zag £6. However, if someone from Coalville wishes to visit Derby by changing at the Airport, the total in return fares comes to a whopping £14.30 because zig-zag is not available on Skylink Derby due to it being operated by "a different company"
Of course the zig-zag is only available on the day of it's issue but I would suggest that most travellers return the same day anyway. There are issues in TrentBarton's pricing policy which could and should be addressed. Walk on fares have been hiked up terribly to cover the cost of Mango and people should not be forced into using them.
Cash is both time consuming and more expensive for Trent Barton compared to using a smartcard. The less people using it, the better.Walk on fares have been hiked up terribly to cover the cost of Mango and people should not be forced into using them.
A journey such as Coalville to Derby is covered by a £9 ZigZag Plus, valid on both Trent & Kinch. What is annoying is that someone starting a days travel using a Mango card is NOT capped at £9 but is charged for each individual journey - nor does it cap at £5 for those journeys made after 9am within that days travel.
A trip from Nuthall to Shipley View near Ilkeston Hospital used to be available on a single bus on a return ticket. It is now 3 buses and costs me with a Mango £11.56 return before 9am and £5 (soon to be £5.20) after! But if I get a lift home I'm wasting money buying a £9 cash zig zag plus.... A distance of about 6 miles by the way - which I now finding myself walking big sections of due to it being quicker than waiting for the next bus!
also it was promised in early - mid 2016 that the the electronic trentbartonland Saver tickets would cover both networks although I've never had any confirmation that this ever happened.
I have contacted Trent Barton about this and they have confirmed that this is now the case; why would you keep quiet about such a good enhancement to your product from existing customers?
Talking about the Pronto it's quite irritating day tickets are not valid on this route, seems to be single/two trip cash fares only, & i don't see what's special about the buses either that warrents this, this is one route that could be a candidate for a QBP with day tickets valid ecc?
This is exactly what I've been trying to say. Even using a Mango Card, anyone travelling before 9am are paying extortionate prices often for quite local journeys if that means catching more than one bus. I didn't realise that further journeys after 9 are not capped at £5 as I rarely travel before 9am these days. That's disgraceful if there's no cap whatsoever if your first journey is before 9am. It's probably wise to have an extra Mango Card just to use before 9am if you are doing lots more journeys later in the day, but we shouldn't have to be doing that!
I want to support Trent Barton as a good friendly local company. The last thing I would want is for them to be taken over by Stagecoach, Arriva, First etc. It would be such a shame after all these years of them operating in this area.
But when you see that with Stagecoach a Mansfield Day Rider is only £3.50, a Day Rider Plus (covering a much wider area) is £5 and a Day Explorer covering a huge area right up into Yorkshire is only £6, it makes you think. All of these Stagecoach tickets available in North Nottinghamshire and the Chesterfield Area ones are valid all day with no 9am restriction. This makes Mango very expensive in comparison and we are being completely overcharged when making a series of short local journeys. It's keeping me fit as I'm doing more and more walking.
There is zero chance of TB being taken over by the so called big boys. First would have to change its current policy, Arriva would have issues re Derby, Stagecoach would have been in by now if they were really interested by competing on routes. TB is quite a successful transport body that has concentrated on keeping any growing what it knows best, mainly bus operations and light rail in its region. It does come at a cost for certain routes, but it wouldn't be any cheaper on Stagecoach et al.
That's 3 of the 'big boys' - most people would consider there are 2 others that could be interested.
There is zero chance of TB being taken over by the so called big boys. First would have to change its current policy, Arriva would have issues re Derby, Stagecoach would have been in by now if they were really interested by competing on routes. TB is quite a successful transport body that has concentrated on keeping any growing what it knows best, mainly bus operations and light rail in its region. It does come at a cost for certain routes, but it wouldn't be any cheaper on Stagecoach et al.
The last thing I would want to happen is Trent Barton being taken over by one of the so called big boys. I appreciate the history of the company in the area even though as a child I remember most of my local routes were operated by Midland General which I believe was taken over by Trent in the early 1970s.
The buses are usually in good condition and the driers always friendly. I think many people in Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire feel some loyalty towards them. However, I do feel it's a shame that they do appear to be losing a bit of this general goodwill in some areas because of the high fares charged when people are just trying to make simple journeys from one neighbouring town or village to another. A short return trip into Hucknall from neighbouring Watnall on the Amberline for shopping shouldn't cost more than the daily Mango Cap or than a Zigzag Day ticket!
I appreciate the history of the company in the area even though as a child I remember most of my local routes were operated by Midland General which I believe was taken over by Trent in the early 1970s.
I see your problem. What's the ridership like on such routes?
The 59 shows as being registered by Notts & Derby last week, with an effective date of 15th August 2016.
The Y36 has been withdrawn from today. The Y5 is being diverted from University Boulevard to go along Woodside Road and Derby Road.
The Y36 has been withdrawn from today. The Y5 is being diverted from University Boulevard to go along Woodside Road and Derby Road.
It is certainly disapointing with the downfall of Yourbus in Nottingham. First the fall of the Y28, then the failure of the Y4 and now the Y36.
Let's hope that they do have some sucsess in Derby competing against Arriva. As it is a market that can be cornered by Yourbus. I've always wondered why Trent Haven't competed against Arriva in Derby
It is certainly disapointing with the downfall of Yourbus in Nottingham. First the fall of the Y28, then the failure of the Y4 and now the Y36.
Let's hope that they do have some sucsess in Derby competing against Arriva. As it is a market that can be cornered by Yourbus. I've always wondered why Trent Haven't competed against Arriva in Derby
Trent/Kinchbus are on most of the main corridors out of Derby already; i4 and Indigo to Chaddesden and Skylink to Alveston for example.