hairyhandedfool
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Yes, such as Off Peak or Advance tickets....
I think you are clutching at straws here Yorkie, there is no mention of ticket type in that condition, at all, just as you claim there is no mention of 'by brand'. I'm sure you can find many other things to claim it covers without actually mentioning brand, but as I believe we can now agree the list is clearly not exhaustive (it can't be if your statement here is true) I think you have to accept that 'by brand' can be included.
....The intention of NRCoC Condition 10 has always been to restrict tickets to that of a train company. It's never been an issue anywhere else, as tickets restricted to merged companies then became valid on the new company and were usually quite promptly correctly re-named....
With all due respect, I don't think this point does your argument any favours. Southern Railway Limited and GTR (which are essentially the same company) are the only franchises that have been mergers of two or more preceding franchises, which all had existing TOC specific tickets over the same route, that have kept both the brand names and the existing routed tickets. There is no other example where this sort of merger has happened, so to put across a point of discussion that this is no different to anywhere else is dubious at best.
As a further point, Condition 10 has never limited restrictions/prohibitions to those of route or TOC, it merely states that a route or TOC restriction/prohibition can apply to some tickets and that, where it applies, it has to be shown on the ticket, but I believe we have been over this ground many times before.