supervc-10
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HSTs would not be suitable for Waterloo-Exeter. That's often an 9-car 159 lashup already! The 159 cabs are already pretty small, not much space is lost.
Indeed; the problem of acceleration on the main line out of Waterloo might be one thing, but mega lashups (i.e. 2+8) west of Salisbury would kill the case off. HSTs have previously run as far as Salisbury out of Waterloo, but they wouldn't be suited on the Blackmore Vale route (i.e. via Tisbury). Keep them as 159s or use a more modern solution IMHO.HSTs would not be suitable for Waterloo-Exeter. That's often an 9-car 159 lashup already! The 159 cabs are already pretty small, not much space is lost.
Indeed. The 158/159 fleet remains the ideal tool for Waterloo-Exeter especially given the need to split at Salisbury to match demand. It is an ideal route for those sets, which are suited to such long distance Regional Express trains.As said there are probably quite a few far better routes to put HSTs on than Waterloo <> Exeter. This route should initially be used to soak up any 158s from elsewhere to allow more 10 car peak formations. Then when the 158/159s become life expired, perhaps at the next franchise change, order something that will still make best use of the 240m platform capacity at Waterloo. Maybe pairs of 5 x 23m units splitting at Yeovil Junction or Salisbury.
Alternatively they could try now for a small number of alternative DMUs with 1/3 2/3 doors to operate the Romsey rounders, helping peak dwell times, and then those 3 released 158s would allow more longer distance 10 car sets at Waterloo.
Mind if the Romseys are combined with the “Transwilts”, as some stakeholders are trying for, then anything might happen, eg a change of operator...
57303 is at the head of 5L46 again today (replacing the burst 47813), hauling 41138/42556/42505/42284/42213/40707 between barrier vehicles 6338 & 6330. http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O09269/2019/05/29/advanced
As I understand it, yes.Although briefly off topic, regarding the Class 47s, is that how they earned the nickname "Duffs" owing to their various (what seems to be) frequent breakdowns?
In fact some vehicles and two power cars have gone just this morning to Long Marston.Saw a large number of HST trailer vehicles and power cars at Laira. How many of these are due to go off-lease and when?
Obviously quite a few short 'Castle' sets there and a few 2+4 short 'classic' sets filling in until the refurbished 'castle' sets are complete.
One power car on the back of the move: 43056.In fact some vehicles and two power cars have gone just this morning to Long Marston.
Just one Power car? No Mk3's as well. Do you know what dragged it?One power car on the back of the move: 43056.
One power car on the back of the move: 43056.
Trailers as well. Formation was 47727 47749 6336 44078 42173 42247 41187 42169 40808 43056.Just one Power car? No Mk3's as well. Do you know what dragged it?
Thanks
Yes, 19 have gone so far: 43017/018/024/025/053/056/069/070/078/079/087/091/159/165/174/185/190/193/197Have any power cars been off leased that are not one of the 24, apart from 43056, that has gone?
Indeed not; all the Angel-owned TFKBs (407xx) that were with GWR are now stored at Ely.Todays 5L46 Laira to Ely
47815
6344, 44059, 42569. 42067, 41089, 42504, 42361, 40755, 6340
Can't be much left at Laira now
I have 40707 as still to go to Ely; or has that already been sent?Indeed not; all the Angel-owned TFKBs (407xx) that were with GWR are now stored at Ely.
40707 went to Ely on 29th May. See post #128I have 40707 as still to go to Ely; or has that already been sent?
As said there are probably quite a few far better routes to put HSTs on than Waterloo <> Exeter. This route should initially be used to soak up any 158s from elsewhere to allow more 10 car peak formations. Then when the 158/159s become life expired, perhaps at the next franchise change, order something that will still make best use of the 240m platform capacity at Waterloo. Maybe pairs of 5 x 23m units splitting at Yeovil Junction or Salisbury.
Alternatively they could try now for a small number of alternative DMUs with 1/3 2/3 doors to operate the Romsey rounders, helping peak dwell times, and then those 3 released 158s would allow more longer distance 10 car sets at Waterloo.
Mind if the Romseys are combined with the “Transwilts”, as some stakeholders are trying for, then anything might happen, eg a change of operator...
Yes, 19 have gone so far: 43017/018/024/025/053/056/069/070/078/079/087/091/159/165/174/185/190/193/197
More than that...So that leaves on lease: -
Angel 43002,9,22,29, 171-172
Portabrook 43063,71,86,156,160
Not sure about 43161-162