On this day in history.

[D841 Roebuck]

05/11/2000 - back from Scotland with 87033 (Carlisle to Preston) and winner 90003 onwards to Wigan.

6/11/84 - an hour or so in the Birmingham are produced 87032, 47553, 86232 and 47530 on the New Street to International corridor...

 

[55013]

06/11/1988:
47609 Leeds - Wakefield Kirkgate
43091/43013 Wakefield Westgate - Leeds
47645 Leeds - Westgate
43054/43083 Westgate - Leeds
47661 Leeds - Westgate

Of note is that I recorded the HSTs and one of them was 43013, now a NMT power car.
Also, royal 47798 featured in one of its previous guises as 47609.

06/11/1993:
A nice railtour to the South coast.
37405 Manchester Piccadilly - Fawley
37377 Fawley - Totton Down Yard
37405 Totton Down Yard - Hamworthy Quay
37377 Hamworthy Quay - Poole
37405 Poole - Weymouth Quay
37405 Weymouth Quay - Manchester

06/11/1999:
A visit to the NYMR.
24054/24061/D7076/40145/46035 & 50027 featured.

07/11/1998:
A Pathfinder spin 'n' win tour.
86620 Birmingham International - Wolverhampton Up & Down goods line.
56114 Wolverhampton U&D - Latchford Sidings
60038 Latchford Sidings - Madeley Chord Jnc
56114 Madeley Chord Jnc - Silverdale Colliery
60038 Silverdale Colliery - Madeley Chord Jnc
56114 Madeley Chord Jnc - Chester
57001 Chester - Stafford
90143 Stafford - International

08/11/1999:
I had the day off and was at home when I got the gen that a big NB loco was working the Brighton - Glasgow to Birmingham. Also, one of my last few Res 47s was booked to do the evening Shrewsbury.
One fast car move later and I was at Birmingham International.
90022 International - Coventry
37602 Coventry - New Street
86260 New Street - International
47839 International - New Street
86245 New Street - Coventry
90008 Coventry - New Street
47759 New Street - Wolverhampton
47843 Wolverhampton - International

08/11/2014:
A day out in East Anglia.
The car West Yorkshire - Cambridge.
170206 Cambridge - Norwich
90006 Norwich - Ipswich
90011 Ipswich - Diss
90003 Diss - Ipswich
90013 Ipswich - Norwich
90013 Norwich - Diss
90006 Diss - Norwich
90015 Norwich - Diss
90003 Diss - Norwich
170206 Norwich - Cambridge
The car home

09/11/1996:
90007 Manchester - Stockport
37420 Stockport - Chester
37417 Chester - Llandudno Junction
37402 Llandudno Jnc - Rhyl
37425 Rhyl - Llandudno Jnc
37408 Llandudno Jnc - Rhyl
37429 Rhyl - Bangor
37429 Bangor - Rhyl
37417 Rhyl - Llandudno Jnc
37425 Llandudno Jnc - Chester
DMUs home.

09/11/1998:
91016 Wakefield - Doncaster
47702 Doncaster - Newcastle
47702 Newcastle - Wakefield

09/11/2002:
The ELR.
20087/31435/40145 & 50015 were in action.

10/11/1998:
91012 Wakefield - Doncaster
47848 Doncaster - Newcastle
47848 Newcastle - Wakefield

10/11/2001:
A Virgin only day rover. We started by driving to Stockport.
87009 Stockport - Manchester
47844 Manchester - New Street
87022 New Street - International
87005 International - Euston
87030 Euston - International
87017 International - Stockport

10/11/2007:
Another visit to the ELR for a Sulzer event.
24054, 26024 & 47402 were sampled.

10/11/2012:
A nice little tour.
92019 Nuneaton - Crewe
60011 Crewe - Sheffield
60011 Sheffield - Crewe
92003 Crewe - Nuneaton

 

[The_Train]

06/11/1993:
A nice railtour to the South coast.
37405 Manchester Piccadilly - Fawley
37377 Fawley - Totton Down Yard
37405 Totton Down Yard - Hamworthy Quay
37377 Hamworthy Quay - Poole
37405 Poole - Weymouth Quay
37405 Weymouth Quay - Manchester

That's some nice tractor action there. Is the Poole to Weymouth Quay leg the bit that basically ran through the town?

 

[55013]

That's some nice tractor action there. Is the Poole to Weymouth Quay leg the bit that basically ran through the town?

Yes indeed.
It was a very interesting experience, sadly unlikely to be repeated.

 

[The_Train]

Yes indeed.
It was a very interesting experience, sadly unlikely to be repeated.

I can only imagine. I've seen some videos on YouTube of it and it looks bizarre....particularly when the police and railway staff have to bounce some cars out of the way

Are the lines still there or have they gone now?

 

[55013]

As far as I'm aware the tracks are still in situ.
I wouldn't like to go down there now, though - it was last used in 1999 so will be a bit shabby.

 

[55013]

11/11/1987:
Shortly after regaining an interest in railways I decided to pay a visit to Crewe.
DMU Huddersfield - Stalybridge
DMU N664 (53516) Stalybridge - Stockport
86414 Stockport - Crewe
86408 Crewe - Stockport
DMU Stockport - Stalybridge
47401 Stalybridge - Huddersfield

Interesting to note that I recorded the unit I had on the Stalybridge shuttle.

11/11/1989:
56030/47475 Leeds - Keighley
47503 Keighley - Leeds
47524 Leeds - Huddersfield
DMU Huddersfield - Leeds
47624 Leeds - Huddersfield

11/11/1998:
91012 Wakefield - Doncaster
47831 Doncaster - Newcastle
47831 Newcastle - Wakefield

11/11/2001:
86206 Stockport - New Street
87010 New Street - Coventry
87026 Coventry - New Street
47741 New Street - Stockport
87008 Stockport - Stoke
90011 Stoke - Manchester

11/11/2006:
A day that started at the ELR with 31435, 40135 and 55022 being enjoyed.
The day was interrupted with the gen that a required loco was doing West Coast drags, so we abandoned the preserved line and went for a drive.
57314 Crewe - Liverpool Lime Street

 

[47403]

I was on 56030/47475 from Hellifield to Carlisle and back to Leeds and found this on a Facebook page. To say it was rammed with cranks, was a total understatement.


It was the 2nd day of a weeks freedom of the North East. Sadly I can't tell you what moves I made that day. First train off Newcastle to Carlisle, onto I think 47443 or 47503 over the S&C to connect with the 56/47 combo. Afterwards I done some 31/4s before, filling my boots on the Trans Pennine turns between Leeds, York, Scarborough and Newcastle.
A week.that started with 47484, included a few 31/4s, 40122 up and down the S&C, a 56 and an extended trip to Crewe roped in a few 37/4s from Machester/Liverpool to Cardiff turns and 37408 to Derby. Wish I had that list of that week. I had some good moves that week.

 

[Keith Jarrett]

Some more moves from the KJ archives

6th November 1994
47828 Paddington to Banbury via Oxford
no suitable loco hauled back so
165035 Banbury to Paddington via High Wycombe

7th November 1984
Cannot find a lot of interest so here's one of my little forays down the Southend Victoria branch.
307125 Liverpool Street to Rochford
305408 Rochford to Liverpool Street
The return train was booked a 307 but was in practice used to get any units that required repairs back to Ilford so was anything from a three-car 305 through to a 12-car lash up.

8th November 1981
50019 Paddington to Exeter St Davids
50003 Exeter St Davids to Gloucester
50050 Gloucester to Paddington

9th November 1985
Was on one of the Southern Region Merrymaker tickets. Included free travel to/from London and a circular trip to somewhere far flung. But was more like a day rover on the main line!
43101+43109 St Pancras to Sheffield
47443 Sheffield to Manchester Victoria
45118 Manchester Victoria to Leeds
43051+43119 Leeds to Peterborough
43100+43193 Peterborough to Kings Cross
73123 Victoria to Gatwick Airport
43134 Gatwick Airport to Victoria

10th November 1979
I went 50 bashing. However, with Class 50 availability being very poor, I accrued a large amount of Sulzer mileage. At least there were two winners!
47125 Bristol Temple Meads to Exeter St Davids
50022 Exeter St Davids to Taunton
50004 Taunton to Newton Abbot
50031 Newton Abbot to Taunton
50007 Taunton to Torquay
45039 Torquay to Newton Abbot
47483 Newton Abbot to Taunton
46009 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads

11th November seems to have almost nothing of any remote interest on the rails. I was either inactive or on the daily commute. Although one commute did turn into a mini-bash...
11th November 1988
319023+319058 St Helier to Wimbledon
5846+5919 Wimbledon to Clapham Junction
1258+2112+1718 Clapham Junction to Victoria
3010 Waterloo to Clapham Junction
1211+3117 Clapham Junction to Waterloo
3012 Waterloo to Clapham Junction
3077+3425+4201+4318 Clapham Junction to Waterloo
5713+5874 Waterloo to Wimbledon
6334 Wimbledon to Morden Road

12th November 1983
43123+43156 St Pancras to Derby
43093+43106 Derby to St Pancras

13th November 1979
A trip to London for a job interview. I got the job and 39 years later and I am still in London!
31424 Keynsham to Westbury
50009 Westbury to Paddington
50043 Paddington to Westbury
31403 Westbury to Bath Spa

14th November 1987
203001+207004 St Pancras to Fenchurch Street - The Inner City Express
Route London St Pancras - West Hampstead - Carlton Road Jn - Junction Road Jn - South Tottenham East Jn - Tottenham South Jn - Copper Mill Jn - Temple Mills East Jn - Channelsea North Jn - Carpenters Road North Jn - Carpenters Road South Jn - Bow Jn - Gas Factory Jn - London Fenchurch Street
I bailed at Fenchurch Street as there was no more required track. According to Six Bells Junction I had a lucky escape . Quote from SBJ "The tour was planned to visit every London terminus station, but was abruptly terminated after departing from Willesden Junction, when the rear DEMU vehicle derailed whilst traversing the Willesden Junction LL to Kensal Green Jn line, a few chains short of Kensal Green Jn. A display of pyrotechnics from the fouled third rail cut off power to the North London line, and after a delay of about an hour, passengers were detrained and allowed to walk back along the line to Willesden Junction High Level."

 

[big all]

ironically your journeys on the reps would be close to your last unless they where renumbered veps [423s]

 

[Keith Jarrett]

All on VEPs - by then the REPs were 20xx numbers

 

[47403]

Both you and 55013 done some mega moves there Keith. You really done some miles on the 50s. I see a bit of a rarity in 46009, well in my days they were. I vaguely one being on a trans pennine turn one evening, passing Tyne Yard and there seemed to be many a wailing crank hanging out many of the windows, as it went past. Think there was only about a dozen at most, in service then.
55013, I never done any of the spin and win tours or Merrymakers, a mates brother used to regail stories of them to us, when we were young lads.We'd be listening to the tales, intently and more often than not, wide eyed and open mouthed, as we listened. I guess the GB Tours are as close as you get to a spin n win tour nowadays.
This truly is a great thread and I constantly read on in total awe.

 

[barrowjack]

15/11/1989
31461 Barrow In Furness to Preston
90028 Preston to Birmingham New Street
86257 Birmingham New Street to Birmingham International
86236 Birmingham International to Birmingham New Street
47583 Birmingham New Street to Birmingham International
86209 Birmingham International to Birmingham New Street
86205 Birmingham New Street to Wolverhampton
87013 Wolverhampton to Lancaster
108xxx Lancaster to Barrow In Furness

 

[Cowley]

I’ve had so little time recently to look through everyone’s trip reports (I will catch up with you all at some point I promise).
Still keeping up with this thread though.
As LSG said, it’s absolutely excellent.

 

[barrowjack]

17/11/1989
Last trip out before I joined the grown ups as I started work on 20/11/1989

31436 Barrow In Furness to Lancaster
90031 Lancaster to Preston
1564xx Preston to Manchester Piccadilly
90035 Manchester Piccadilly to Crewe
47586 Crewe to Chester
47648 Chester to Crewe
87013 Crewe to Lancaster
108xxx Lancaster to Barrow In Furness

 

[D841 Roebuck]

17/11/1989
Last trip out before I joined the grown ups as I started work on 20/11/1989

31436 Barrow In Furness to Lancaster
90031 Lancaster to Preston
1564xx Preston to Manchester Piccadilly
90035 Manchester Piccadilly to Crewe
47586 Crewe to Chester
47648 Chester to Crewe
87013 Crewe to Lancaster
108xxx Lancaster to Barrow In Furness

Wouldn't mind a Tardis back to that day - all bar 47586 would be winners for me!

18/11/84 saw me returning to Birmingham from Manchester. There was some sort of power outage, so I was lucky enough to get 25259 dragging as far as Macclesfield. So excited was I about the rodent that I didn't note the electric at the time. 30 years later, thanks to the interweb, I discovered that 86242 was in charge from Macc to Brum, the red pen being applied belatedly in this case!

 

[Keith Jarrett]

15th November 1981 and I was heading home after a weekend back "home"
50043 Bristol Temple Meads to Gloucester
50036 Gloucester to Stroud
50045 Stroud to Cheltenham Spa
50045 Cheltenham Spa to Paddington

16th November 1980 and I was again returning to the smoke after a weekend at the parents
33028 Bath Spa to Bristol Temple Meads
50034 Bristol temple Meads to Paddington

17th November 1979 was a good old 50 bash
50021 Bristol Temple Meads to Birmingham New Street
50021 Birmingham New Street to Exeter St Davids
50034 Exeter St Davids to Reading
50048 Reading to Paddington
50049 Paddington to Exeter St Davids
50046 Exeter St Davids to Bristol Temple Meads via Westbury

18th November 1977 saw me on an ADEX to Edinburgh - all locos were winners
47477 Bristol Temple Meads to Birmingham New Street
86026 Birmingham New Street to Carstairs
47528 Carstairs to Edinburgh
An enterprising soul had chartered a coach to pick us up from Waverley so we had a day shed bashing in the Edinburgh and Glasgow areas
55019 Edinburgh to Carstairs
86026 Carstairs to Preston

19th November 1977 and by now we were running late but were going to get even later as the power was off and a succession of diesels provided to drag 86026 back to New Street
40170 Preston to Crewe
47194 Crewe to Stafford
47090 Stafford to Birmingham New Street
47477 Birmingham New Street to Bristol Temple Meads

19th November 1998 saw me on a work trip to Belfast. There was only one way to get to Heathrow!
332004+332012 Paddington to Heathrow Central
332006+332014 Heathrow Central to Paddington
And new track as well!

20th November 1993 was a bit of a Turbo bash
165019+165022 Marylebone to Aylsbury
165014 Aylesbury to Princes Risborough
165029 Princes Risborough to Marylebone
165123 Paddington to Ealing Broadway
165125 Ealing Broadway to Paddington

21st November - Nothing special on this day in history but I bagged a couple of winners on the daily commute on 21st November 2005
319216+319220 Balham to Clapham Junction
450060+450102 Clapham Junction to Waterloo
5701+5918 Waterloo to Wimbledon
319005 Wimbledon to St Helier

22nd November 1986 and another 50 bash
2307+7416 Wimbledon to Waterloo
50022 Waterloo to Basingstoke
47571 Basingstoke to Waterloo
50011 Waterloo to Westbury
50024 Westbury to Salisbury
50018 Salisbury to Crewkerne
50022 Crewkerne to Waterloo
7701 Waterloo to Clapham Junction
5826 Clapham Junction to Victoria
73112 Victoria to Gatwick
73132 Gatwick to Victoria
73103 Victoria to Gatwick
73142 Gatwick to Victoria
7805 Victoria to Clapham Junction
7826 Clapham Junction to Wimbledon

23rd November 1981 After doing 50035 to Birmingham International the previous evening via Oxford & Bletchley, I kipped at a friend's house. But needed to get back to London. As ever, direct routes were out of the question.
50035 Dorridge to Reading
50039 Reading to Oxford
50030 Oxford to Worcester Shrub Hill
DMU (50857+50910) Worcester Shrub Hill to Birmingham New Street
50030 Birmingham New Street to Reading
50039 Reading to Paddington

 

[NorthWestRover]

That's some Hoover mileage on 17th November 1979!

 

[stephens]

Notable dates for me were:
14 Nov 1997
D9000 Warrington-Preston
15 Nov 1997
D9000 Carlisle-Preston
16 Nov 1984
APT Preston-Motherwell

 

[Keith Jarrett]

That's some Hoover mileage on 17th November 1979!

Started out about 09:00 and finished well after midnight on the 17th. Train was due into Bristol TM at 23:54 but the Westbury diversion added about 1/2 hour

 

[Cowley]

Notable dates for me were:
14 Nov 1997
D9000 Warrington-Preston
15 Nov 1997
D9000 Carlisle-Preston
16 Nov 1984
APT Preston-Motherwell

The APT. Mmm...
What was it like Stephen ?

 

[QJ]

Saturday 22/11/1980 to Monday 24/11/1980 -
86232 on 1J20 0740 Euston - Shrewsbury was taken from London to Birmingham New Street to participate in an RCTS DMU railtour around the West Midlands the highlights of which included:
+ Tipton West - Prince's End - Wednesbury South Jn - Wednesbury Town - Bescot Curve Jn - Bescot Down Goods Line
+ Stourbridge Junction - Round Oak - Bescot Curve Jn - Pleck Jn - Walsall
+ Redditch 1972 station

This was followed by a leap from Moor Street to Stratford on Avon and return; outward via Dorridge return via the North Warwickshire line before heading to Bristol Temple Meads behind 46027 on the 1V97 1638 Leeds - Bristol.

The plan was to head for Swansea then end up back in London on the overnight Fishguard - Paddington. 45054 was taken to Cardiff on the 1C74 1830 from Plymouth. I then boarded an ADEX returning from York to Swansea headed by 47166 via the Vale of Glamorgan rather than wait for the service train I intended to catch. What a mistake to make! The duff expired near Briton Ferry to be rescued by 47029 but only after arrival at Swansea was after the Paddington train had departed. What to do? Not fancying a long fester in Swansea the answer appeared in the form of a Richards Bros coach to Fishguard (0B00 departing at 01:45 providing a connection for Ireland bound passengers stuck on trains behind the failure) then jump on 0S00 to Rosslare (IMO 7360605 Stena Normandica) and then a return trip from Rosslare to Dublin and return behind CIE 121 class 134 and 131.

The 1A11 0200 Fishguard - Paddington boat train was finally caught a day after I originally planned. 47148 hauled the train to Swansea to be replaced by 47534. At Cardiff a final loco change took place with 50030 taking over for the journey to Paddington. One last piece of excitement saw the train routed via Gloucester and the Golden Valley to Swindon.

 

[The_Train]

The APT. Mmm...
What was it like Stephen ?

Exactly what I was going to ask when I saw that haha. Would be interesting to get a review from a non-press perspective

 

[stephens]

The APT. Mmm...
What was it like Stephen ?

Fast!
Left Preston 25 minutes late, arrived in Motherwell only about 5 mins late.
That was my one and only journey on it, as by then it's days were already numbered - a great shame.

 

[Cowley]

Fast!
Left Preston 25 minutes late, arrived in Motherwell only about 5 mins late.
That was my one and only journey on it, as by then it's days were already numbered - a great shame.

Excellent. That must be a very treasured memory.

 

[barrowjack]

Notable dates for me were:
14 Nov 1997
D9000 Warrington-Preston
15 Nov 1997
D9000 Carlisle-Preston
16 Nov 1984
APT Preston-Motherwell

Vaguely remember going on the APT between Preston and London probably around the same time, unfortunately the details are in one of my missing haulage books, but 370007 was leading (I have a pic) and could have been 003 trailing. This was my only trip on it, but definitely my rail highlight and am so pleased to have had the opportunity to travel on one. I remember being interviewed by ITN just after we left Preston but thankfully it was never shown on air

 

[Cowley]

Vaguely remember going on the APT between Preston and London probably around the same time, unfortunately the details are in one of my missing haulage books, but 370007 was leading (I have a pic) and could have been 003 trailing. This was my only trip on it, but definitely my rail highlight and am so pleased to have had the opportunity to travel on one. I remember being interviewed by ITN just after we left Preston but thankfully it was never shown on air

I’m sure that you probably did alright Barrowjack...
Re - ‘The Future/The APT!!’.
I didn’t get anywhere near seeing an APT in actual service, which is why I’ve always been fascinated by any firsthand experiences.
The APT was some kind of mythical beast for my generation in the West Country, only to be seen on The News or Tomorrows World.
Yep, definitely not too many APTs to be seen in Exeter in 1985...
So many questions for those that have been on one though. Like:
How did it ride?
And how quick did it accelerate compared to everything else?
Were the centre power cars noisy? Did they sound anything the new class 91 a few years later?

Blimey. Someone’s got to invent a decent Virtual Reality machine that can take us back to these times at some point haven’t they?
I’d pay good money to stick some kind of headset on and relive a few of the days that have been posted on this thread over the last couple of months.
I’d actually consider losing a digit for some of the them
(Maybe a toe for a day bashing 24s and 40s in North Wales? I’d have to think about it but maybe).

 

[47403]

Jack or Stephens,
Was it invite only or could you actually go to the ticket office and pay to ride the APT. Excuse my ignorance if it's common knowledge to everyone else.
Cowley, If ever someone does build that time machine, you can certainly count me in to go bashing. I'd gladly pack a star jumper n flares (probably still fashion in now in Cowley's neck of the woods) and ride the rails in the early and mid 70s. I could only imagine the sheer confusion of where the hell to go first on an ALR. From John o Groats to Land's End loco hauled was king.

 

[Cowley]

I’ve just put that star jumper in the wash.

 

[47403]

I’ve just put that star jumper in the wash.

I'd like to say I'm shocked but unfortunately Nick, I'm not