Priv Questions

[Tom C]

I think with the sleeper its the other way around. PRIV is valid for the berths but is not valid on the Caledonian Sleeper in the seated section. I think you can use the First box pass in the seated section on the Cornish Riveria.

 

[91101]

dan, regarding FCC and NXEA, yeah it is just Cambridge - Lynn that we're valid on although they're only 2-3 a day, although you do have the ex-Anglia Cambridge-Norwich as far as Ely too!

Also regarding EMT, I had previously been told, and had seen it written down that the agreement was Bedford-London only, however, I have further had it confirmed, that the residential agreement stretches over the entire network. Now, I'm not sure if this is the ex MML network, or the entire EMT network, but it is residential only.

Sleeper:
No Staff Travel Facilities may be used whatsoever in the seated portion of the Caledonian sleeper.
This does not apply to the FGW Night Riveria, where there much greater availability of seated accomodation.

 

[dan_atki]

Ah thanks for clearing up about the sleepers - I'd assume that there is an 'E' in the facilities barred column for the Caledonian Sleeper then (being too lazy to check it now ) - admittedly I checked ATOCs site but forgot to check that part!

 

[91101]

Restriction A and E with the cavet that it only applies to Seated Accomodation though.

 

[First class]

Avantix returns PRV fares for both seated and berths, one is CAL SLEEPER and the other is SCOTRAIL ONLY, the latter being seated.

SOR - ANYTIME R FSR
00094 - SCOTRAIL ONLY
Non-standard discounts apply
1 Adult @£ 23.75 = £ 23.75
__________
£ 23.75

Standard Class Return
From : 1072 LONDON TERMINALS
To : 0433 GLASGOW CEN/QST

SOR - ANYTIME R
00345 - CAL SLEEPER

1 Adult @£ 40.50 = £ 40.50
__________
£ 40.50

Standard Class Return
From : 1072 LONDON TERMINALS
To : 0433 GLASGOW CEN/QST


I have used PRV tickets on the sleeper before, regardless of restrictions and FSR staff have always been ok with that. RJIS also allows you to reserve a seat, (cant use the quickbook method though), on prv discount tickets.

I bet the staff don't even know the restriction exists.



Incidentally I now intend to use my ME Priv to go KIRKDALE-ORMSKIRK-PRESTON-BARROW-CARLISLE-HEXHAM-NEWCASTLE-MIDDLESBROUGH-DARLINGTON-(YORK)-LEEDS-SHEFFIELD-MANCHESTER-WARRINGTON-LIVERPOOL-KIRKDALE in a day all by Northern & Merseyrail... whether I can do it in a day- I don't know, but guess I can always get a cheap ticket home by another operator...

(If anyone knows any Northern routes which are really worth going on, but not really advertised much- it would be great...i've done S+C, Whitby and Cumbrian Coast...)

Has anyone else really used their travel facilities, i.e. doing the entire network? I done the ATW one, then XC came along and I did everything except Aberdeen... then went to Merseyrail...

 

[Gizmogle]

Has anyone else really used their travel facilities, i.e. doing the entire network? I done the ATW one, then XC came along and I did everything except Aberdeen... then went to Merseyrail...

I'm working on it. almost 20,000 miles this year and my coverage is in my sig

 

[First class]

Just been on your site gizmogle - very good

Take it you have a Northern PRIV then?

Also, how do you decide where you going to go? Everytime I go out for a wander, I just get random trains until it gets a bit late and head back...

Also liked that million number thing, I now own 507001...

 

[Gizmogle]

No, I'm on a BR PRIV.

Most of the time I either go to see people, or go out on meets and stuff. Or sometimes I'll go out to get coverage. It's quite rare that I just go out randomly anymore.

 

[1D53]

With a couple of exceptions I've done pretty much the whole Northern network this year!!

 

[First class]

Managed to get the elusive Stockport-Stalybridge or Ellesmere Port - Helsby?

 

[Gizmogle]

Yeah, I've done both.

 

[First class]

The EP-Helsby line is adopted by my rail user group- Ince & Elton keeps getting smashed up though

The one route I haven't done for the Northern network in the NW is the Summer Chester-Runcorn (Mainline) service over the Halton Curve... next train isn't due for a year

 

[1D53]

All I'm missing this year is Ellesmere to Helsby, Newcastle to Chathill, Whitby and the Brigg line and maybe a few little bits. Pretty good to say its such a big network

 

[Gizmogle]

I'm missing Brigg too, we should do that sometime.

 

[First class]

All I'm missing this year is Ellesmere to Helsby, Newcastle to Chathill, Whitby and the Brigg line and maybe a few little bits. Pretty good to say its such a big network

Was the Chester-Runcorn train busy this year do you know? 0825 from Chester...

I really would go to Whitby in Winter, not as busy, and the landscape looks great. You may find yourself on a pacer though.

 

[1D53]

I'm missing Brigg too, we should do that sometime.

Just a shame its always bloody closed!!

 

[91101]

All I'm missing this year is Ellesmere to Helsby, Newcastle to Chathill, Whitby and the Brigg line and maybe a few little bits. Pretty good to say its such a big network

When have you done the Durham Coast or Tyne Valley line this year?

 

[1D53]

ok and those two as well.... Still time! Will need Nottingham too!

 

[t0ffeeman]

Was looking at Avantix today and saw that there are some Priv Rate Advance tickets on NXEC flows. Anyone know any more...?

 

[Gizmogle]

I'm not sure what that's about, but I know that you cannot buy advance tickets with a BR PRIV.

 

[glynn80]

Was looking at Avantix today and saw that there are some Priv Rate Advance tickets on NXEC flows. Anyone know any more...?

Only ticket valid with PRIV discount are the following as the FRPP states:

FD, FO, EF
(only available if card is endorsed ‘First Class’)
75% adult
88% child (maximum £2.00)

SD, SO, EO.
75% adult
88% child (maximum £2.00)

FO (Route 345 - Caledonian Sleeper)
(only available if card is endorsed ‘First Class’)
75% adult only

SO (Route 345 - Caledonian Sleeper)
75% adult
88% child

Some Rover and Ranger products
see individual product entry

 

[t0ffeeman]

That's what I thought!
Ticket type is BPS or BXS. London - Edinburgh is only £3.95!! Restriction is GC

 

[Mojo]

That's what I thought!
Ticket type is BPS or BXS. London - Edinburgh is only £3.95!! Restriction is GC

There are loads of these, Virgin West Coast have some and so did Virgin XC, but these seem to have vanished under XC.

 

[glynn80]

That's what I thought!
Ticket type is BPS or BXS. London - Edinburgh is only £3.95!! Restriction is GC

BPS and BXS are the cheapest and most expensive STD "Advance" fares sold by NXEC on their KGX to EDB flow

The discounts on the FRPP state the following under their conditions:

Standard Class: Child discounts, 16-25, Family & Friends, Senior, HM Forces and Disabled Persons Railcards discounts apply.

- First Class: Child discounts, Senior, HM Forces and Disabled Persons Railcards discounts apply. In addition a 16-25 Railcard discount is available on Advance tickets for First Class travel on CrossCountry, East Midlands Trains, First Great Western, National Express East Coast and Virgin Trains services.



Condition GC states:

Valid on National Express East Coast (TOC Code: XEC) and connecting services

Seat reservations are compulsory



This anomaly I can only assume is an oversight in the fares database. I doubt you'd ever actually be sold this ticket at any ticket office as most know the Priv rules seeing as they are Priv holders themselves.

 

[Thewanderer]

Hi Guys,

In December I will be travelling from Gatwick Airport to London Victoria. Can anybody tell me the cost of a 1st Class Priv Single with Gatwick Express?

Thanks in advance.

The Wanderer.

 

[class 313]

FDS - First Class Single Anytime £3.15 (Southern Only)

No Restriction Applies

 

[dan_atki]

With Gatwick Express, the FDS with Priv is £5.25

 

[class 313]

Ah, didn't see he wanted Gatwick Express ^^ sorry.

 

[Thewanderer]

Thanks Guys for the speedy reply.

Quick question what does FDS stand for?

 

[class 313]

First Day Single at a guess.