And when your battery drops to 20% and you've no battery pack handy, put the phone in battery save and travel/airplane mode and keep it for ticket display and emergencies. It's not difficult if you've an ounce of discipline instead of twitbookgramming every spare time.
I don't understand what you mean. All tickets are "just" tickets?
Cubic gates currently have no concept of break of journey with barcoded tickets. S&B gates on the other hand don't have a problem at all.
Herein lies some of the confusion. Some on here are assuming that the definition of e-ticket is something that can only exist in electronic form, and others are including the printed versions in the definition.
That's down to poor encoding of the software at the gates and/or due to the correct keys not being loaded onto the software. Either way, it's likely a softwarerelated issue.
When my phone gets to 20% I’ve got about 5 mins left! In fact sometimes it shuts down at 40% if it’s cold. I do need a new phone...
I guess people would want to put it into the slot in the barrier instead of holding it against the reader. I don't think the same ticket could carry both a magstripe and a barcode, otherwise there is potential for a second person to travel using a copy of the barcode. So people would have to know that kind of ticket would have to use the barcode reader, which is probably easier if it's in a form (such as a bogroll) that physically won't fit in the slot.
For me, what's important is the information currently printed on the credit card sized ticket, especially information on validity of the ticket, which can be important when breaking a journey and continuing on a later day. It's not perfect, but in the absence of information we get railway staff claiming that e-tickets and m-tickets can't be used for break of journey, and of course the latter being invalidated by the "app" as well. But if there's a barcode as well as the printed words, instead of the magnetic stripe, it's not a problem. The relatively unpleasant "bog roll" tickets have this now, don't they, unpleasant because they're flimsy and don't fit as well into my wallet. I note that the barriers in many places, Manchester Piccadilly being the important one for me, now read these things easily enough.
Given the long history of N.R.E. and the N.R.G. disagreeing with one another, and the unreliability of existing programmed barriers, I think it seems a little optimistic to suppose that these kinds of errors will be made less significant by trying to roll something like that out network-wide. A "computer says no" attitude with the limited digital systems already in place would be highly problematic, and as the use of digital systems expands, the frequency of such errors will only multiply.
Indeed so - but I'm concerned that if that happens a lot if will cause congestion at busy barriers. Perhaps we could do something like changing the orange to a different colour for the bar-coded tickets and provide some posters and graphics telling people to hold the blue (or whatever) tickets against the reader. Anyone remember the "yellow ticket" barriers on the Underground in the 70s?
I would have thought a laser would be incapable of reading a barcode on a screen, as this relies on the light being emitted by the device and the laser would do nothing at best and at worst would just bounce back and drown out the light coming from the screen itself. I think the laser devices must switch the laser off (perhaps for an imperceptibly short period) to read screen-based barcodes.
No they most definitely are not. They are using a Digital Ticket but certainly not an e-Ticket
Indeed, I agree with you.
