James Kevill
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Oh my mistake sorry.That's the 350/2s when they come off lease.
Oh my mistake sorry.That's the 350/2s when they come off lease.
323229 has worked 1217 Crewe - Liverpool Lime Street and 1445 Liverpool Lime Street - Wigan North Western this afternoon. Next working will be 1551 Wigan North Western - Liverpool Lime Street.
First time I've seen a 323 set on this diagram.
Ah, so the situation is that yesterday a 323 worked what is nominally a 319 duty. The last I heard, that couldn't happen, Victoria crews weren't trained on 323s, and, as the latter constituted 50% of the parc on the Crewe circuit, that soaked up all the Lime Street crews. It's good to see times are changing.
It appears 323229 worked the full diagram yesterday including the 0542, 1445 and 1945 Liverpool - Wigan turns, so I assume all three of these are regularly crewed by Liverpool.
Now that the 323s have lost the morning Alderley Edge peak duty to DMUs, potentially this diagram could switch to 323s permanently.
What's the story there? This is something I wasn't aware of, I mean, DMUs doing the morning Alderley.
It appears 323229 worked the full diagram yesterday including the 0542, 1445 and 1945 Liverpool - Wigan turns, so I assume all three of these are regularly crewed by Liverpool.
Now that the 323s have lost the morning Alderley Edge peak duty to DMUs, potentially this diagram could switch to 323s permanently.
323s regularly overnight at Allerton. 323236 was noted on the 0630 Lime Street to Crewe on Tuesday morning.
323s regularly overnight at Allerton. 323236 was noted on the 0630 Lime Street to Crewe on Tuesday morning.
06:30 ,is booked a 323 since the May TT change - previously booked a 319.
If that is true it would account for the numbers of 323s seen at Allerton these days.So far as I know all the heavy 323 exams are now done at Allerton rather than Longsight.
Since the May timetable change Allerton has become the home depot for the 323 fleet.If that is true it would account for the numbers of 323s seen at Allerton these days.
Accounts for why there is a sudden increase in 323s stabled at Allerton. Four this weekend.Since the May timetable change Allerton has become the home depot for the 323 fleet.
Have Northern been 'evicted' from Longsight in favour of TPE stock instead?
Where is the excursion platform?They've been stabling at the resurfaced Excursion Platform since the May 2019 TT change - anything up to 3 323s I've seen at one time.
Where is the excursion platform?
Ah. Manchester International.On the opposite side of the main running lines to the shed areas in the area where there is a long modern rail building which once had a sign saying "Le Eurostar habite ici"
Ah. Manchester International.
The last Glossop service runs ECS to stable there overnight, along with the stock off the 16:57 Stoke to Picc, and the 23:10 Wilmslow to Picc. The stock then runs ECS back to Hadfield to form the first service off there in the morning, and also goes to form the 05:52 from Picc to Hadfield,
The last Glossop service runs ECS to stable there overnight, along with the stock off the 16:57 Stoke to Picc, and the 23:10 Wilmslow to Picc. The stock then runs ECS back to Hadfield to form the first service off there in the morning, and also goes to form the 05:52 from Picc to Hadfield,
the 323s have lost the morning Alderley Edge peak duty to DMUs
the ECS to form this service switched to Newton Heath from July
Northern sill have PRM work and the refurbishment work to do with their older units which kinda explain the sort forming of DMU's they have and I also think the fact that there are no 331s running on the west side yet doesn't cut it either so for the time being Northern has to postpone sending the 323s off for refurbishment and also they have to make do with the units they don't already have in refurbishment. I might be wrong but that maybe some of the reasons why short forming is happening within Northern, and probably also why the 323s haven't gone for PRM mods/refurbishment yet.Northern are short-forming DMU sets, in the afternoon peak, every day of the week. Am I missing something?
Northern sill have PRM work and the refurbishment work to do with their older units which kinda explain the sort forming of DMU's they have and I also think the fact that there are no 331s running on the west side yet doesn't cut it either so for the time being Northern has to postpone sending the 323s off for refurbishment and also they have to make do with the units they don't already have in refurbishment. I might be wrong but that maybe some of the reasons why short forming is happening within Northern, and probably also why the 323s haven't gone for PRM mods/refurbishment yet.
I don't know much about why Northern does that but it seems pointless to do it. Only reason I can think of is that they aren't timetabled/ allocated to go out or timetabled to go put later on in the dayThat doesn't explain why a four-car DMU stands idle for most of the day.