Scotrail Class 385 Discussion

[youngac]

Oh dear. The press reaction to what was meant to be a significant step in the introduction of these units won't be good!

 

[Highlandspring]

The main line is blocked in both directions by failed 385s, one at Falkirk High and one at Croy. Both door faults and over riding the safety systems to move the trains isn't working. Hitachi engineers an route to both trains.

Some facts.. by the time you posted the above at 1100 both trains had already been moved two hours previously. Hitachi offered technical advice by phone but did not have attend either train. Both trains were moved after the TIS and EBS were isolated exactly as per any other unit with an interlock fault. Unfortunate to have two trains of the same class developing similar faults around the same time, yes, but hardly unprecedented and not an indication that the sky is about to fall in.

 

[Sickandtired]

Some facts.. by the time you posted the above at 1100 both trains had already been moved two hours previously. Hitachi offered technical advice by phone but did not have attend either train. Both trains were moved after the TIS and EBS were isolated exactly as per any other unit with an interlock fault. Unfortunate to have two trains of the same class developing similar faults around the same time, yes, but hardly unprecedented and not an indication that the sky is about to fall in.

Hmmm. Sorry but this all has the feel of too unlucky to be so unlucky. An airline or a shipping company would not get away with this level of reliability of their kit.

 

[Mingulay]

Hmmm. Sorry but this all has the feel of too unlucky to be so unlucky. An airline or a shipping company would not get away with this level of reliability of their kit.

Lets hope my prediction posted last week is not coming true!

"Let’s not rule out that the 385 Fleet may we’ll have a few tricks up their sleeves yet by way off glitches or as yet unforeseen failures that could ground them. Add that to the mix of the current HST issue and diesels going off lease. Perhaps the happy train will be the flagship electric ! "

 

[sannox]

Hmmm. Sorry but this all has the feel of too unlucky to be so unlucky. An airline or a shipping company would not get away with this level of reliability of their kit.

I think there is a difference between teething troubles and general unreliability. We've nothing to compare to the Cl334 introduction really.

 

[youngac]

Today's hiccups can't have resulted in the withdrawal of the units. I heard the distinct sound of a 385 leaving Queen Street at 15:00.

 

[InOban]

Were the affected sets the ones which went into public service today?
Since the window design issue, and the braking control problem (sorted in 48hrs) I haven't heard complaints abiut reliability. Am . I right?

 

[Stopper]

I think having the brakes problem followed by 2 failures today with the 385s all since their introduction around summer time can be classed as being unreliable so far. That’s not nit-picking that’s just the truth.

It’s a shame as the units have grown on me, much prefer them to a 365 and probably prefer them to a 380 too.

 

[Journeyman]

It’s a shame as the units have grown on me, much prefer them to a 365 and probably prefer them to a 380 too.

Jury's still out as far as I'm concerned. They're a bit underwhelming, really. I think I prefer the 365s. These sorts of failures are making me nervous - another fleet-wide withdrawal will make for multiple short-forms and some uncomfortable commuting.

 

[InOban]

Light engine on its way.

 

[snookertam]

Jury's still out as far as I'm concerned. They're a bit underwhelming, really. I think I prefer the 365s. These sorts of failures are making me nervous - another fleet-wide withdrawal will make for multiple short-forms and some uncomfortable commuting.

A couple of door faults are unlikely to lead to another fleet withdrawal.

 

[Typhoon_93]

67006 + 385112 departed 20:58 to EC as 5X09.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K96009/2018/11/06/advanced

 

[InOban]

Is this the set which should have been delivered last week but was cancelled because of cable theft?

 

[Typhoon_93]

Is this the set which should have been delivered last week but was cancelled because of cable theft?

Yes it is.

 

[Journeyman]

What's happening with E&G diagrams today? I was on the 07.30 ex-Edinburgh which has consistently been a 365 for some time, but was a 380 this morning. I thought they were all meant to have gone from the E&G with the new 385s coming in, so that suggests something has failed somewhere.

 

[SC318250]

Light loco en route to factory

 

[Typhoon_93]

Light loco en route to factory

67006+385031 departed at 21:08 as 5X09 to EC.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K96009/2018/11/07/advanced

 

[InOban]

First three coach set for a few weeks, I think.

 

[SC318250]

Is there any word on the 4 in Italy returning to Uk?
Will these come by ship and go to Newton A, or straight to Scotland from docks?

 

[GrimShady]

Hmmm. Sorry but this all has the feel of too unlucky to be so unlucky. An airline or a shipping company would not get away with this level of reliability of their kit.

Can't speak for the airlines but I can assure you the maritime world is much worse!

 

[InOban]

There is another light engine on its way, so maybe three deliveries this week.

 

[Typhoon_93]

There is another light engine on its way, so maybe three deliveries this week.

67006 sat at Darlington waiting its path along the branch.

 

[yorkie]

Can I again remind members that this is a Traction and Rolling Stock thread for discussion of Scotrail Class 385 issues.

For discussion on Class 365s to Scotrail please use this thread: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-365s-to-scotrail.163505/

 

[Typhoon_93]

67006+385110 departed Aycliffe at 21:18 as 5X09 to EC.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K96009/2018/11/08/advanced

 

[youngac]

That’s 27 units now delivered with 4 weeks to go until the timetable change. ScotRail will be relieved by this.

 

[gingertom]

That’s 27 units now delivered with 4 weeks to go until the timetable change. ScotRail will be relieved by this.

we'd hope SR have enough staff trained on these units and the units can do their fault free miles in time for the timetable change.

 

[Geeves]

I am not fully clued up but is the Alloa line wired too? If so have any electrics made it there yet? Hell of a turn around for little old Alloa!

 

[InOban]

Wiring to alloa was included in the current project. Currently under test, passenger services due in four weeks.

 

[Mordac]

That’s 27 units now delivered with 4 weeks to go until the timetable change. ScotRail will be relieved by this.

Does anyone know how many are passed for passenger service yet?

 

[InOban]

Delivery paths on Tuesday and Wednesday.