Regular occurrence, (ignoring new livery aspects for a moment), they have also routinely run 9 cars for years and slightly more recently a 10 car set formed 2+2+3+3.woah, 8-car 158/159 train?!
They can be used to charge phones and SWR's publicity states "mobile devices". I do it all the time. Curiously, the labels in 1st class have always said laptops only for some reason so this has merely been perpetuated.
There's 10s in the peak at Waterloo. Not a new thing.woah, 8-car 158/159 train?!
The 10 car 158/9 is only once a day ex SAL - if I remember correctly the return working is ECS, I'm sure if I'm wrong someone will let me know! I'm just praying that the delays regarding refurbs mean that I'll still be able to enjoy proper seats on the WoE for a year or so yet!
The return working is in service, the 0850 out of Waterloo. There is a 10-car on a Saturday now too; 0921 from Salisbury and 1120 from Waterloo.
2 159s and 2 158s...? i didn't realise Sprinter family units could do 4-unit multiple working, only 2-3
I don't see any reason for "laptops only". Mobile phones and even tablets typically draw far less power than laptops.
This has been pointed out a few times since almost a year ago. Can’t you just accept that Siemens are using the same stickers they always have since the trains were new? It doesn’t cause anyone a problem because people understand it’s a limit...
Gosh that's rare these days! Ever since new franchise started the WOE service has gone to pieces, short formations and terminating at Basingstoke is a daily occurrence now.woah, 8-car 158/159 train?!
You don't honestly think the new franchise would be clever enough to spot that do you?
Seats that provide a reasonable level of comfort.
First I had heard of it. Probably because I've never been on a South Western train.
The seats in the 450s are staying the same. The standard class seats in the 442s, 444s and diesels are staying the same Where the 1st class seats are changing it's in order to increase the number of standard class seats. There aren't any other changes to seats. The number of replacement seats is modest.
Looking at the numbers in the franchise agreement, and experience so far of converted 450s and 444s, I don’t think there’s any evidence of a reduction in standard class legroom either. Obviously no one has been on a 442 yet...
The legroom in the 450s is the same as it's ever been. In fact in 75% of the train the seats remain in exactly the same position. The remaining 25% has had changes due to the relocation of 1st, but the seat spacing is the same as in the rest of the train. I really don't like the new 1st Class, but that's another matter
Yes, I mentioned earlier in the thread that I thought the group of 8 standard class table seats adjacent to the first class partition is possibly slightly more spacious than the rest of the train...
I think you're right.
