SWR Repaints and Refurbishments

[Thumper1127]

At a slight tangent, if the 442s do succeed on the Portsmouth Direct I think it would be good to name each unit after places/people of interest on the Direct, given that apart from a few Bournemouth line workings, they are dedicated. I’m aware there is the separate 442 thread of course.

 

[Cletus]

Have any of the 450/5's been renumbered to 450/0's?

I could have sworn I saw a 450059, or similar yesterday.

 

[Train Boy]

Have any of the 450/5's been renumbered to 450/0's?

I could have sworn I saw a 450059, or similar yesterday.

All have now been renumbered, concluded approx a month ago.

 

[Cletus]

All have now been renumbered, concluded approx a month ago.

Thanks. My eyes haven't failed me completely

 

[Mordac]

Is there any news about the refurbs on the 158s and 159s?

 

[43096]

All have now been renumbered, concluded approx a month ago.

But still not renumbered on the system.

 

[Bigfoot]

But still not renumbered on the system.

Certainly still have 5xx fleet number inside the cabs still.

 

[TEW]

Certainly still have 5xx fleet number inside the cabs still.

Seen some with the original numbers inside the cabs now.

 

[Bigfoot]

Seen some with the original numbers inside the cabs now.

A mixture as ever, the one I had yesterday was a 5 inside but a 0 out.

 

[Apedlar12]

Is there any news about the refurbs on the 158s and 159s?

All the 158s and 159s are PRM modified I believe. Some of the 158s have the newer SWT livery and some have the SWR livery, the 159/0s are all in the SWR livery (with a few displaying the striped version with the SWT interior still) and all the 159/1s are still in the newer SWT livery and it doesn't look as if they are in any rush for sending those up to be refurbished into the SWR livery (a bit like 150219 and 238 for GWR which have been PRM for a few years now and still carry the FGW livery both inside and outside)...

 

[Mordac]

All the 158s and 159s are PRM modified I believe. Some of the 158s have the newer SWT livery and some have the SWR livery, the 159/0s are all in the SWR livery (with a few displaying the striped version with the SWT interior still) and all the 159/1s are still in the newer SWT livery and it doesn't look as if they are in any rush for sending those up to be refurbished into the SWR livery (a bit like 150219 and 238 for GWR which have been PRM for a few years now and still carry the FGW livery both inside and outside)...

Is that all they're doing to them? I thought they were doing interior mods too, similar to the Desiros.

 

[59CosG95]

Is that all they're doing to them? I thought they were doing interior mods too, similar to the Desiros.

The interior mods begin later. Not sure where the work will be carried out though.

 

[fgwrich]

The interior mods begin later. Not sure where the work will be carried out though.

Indeed, they being this year. SWR were recently advertising for a 158/159 Refurbishment Project Manager.

 

[Apedlar12]

Is that all they're doing to them? I thought they were doing interior mods too, similar to the Desiros.

What do the interior mods include?

 

[Dan15812]

Does anyone know when the new PIS screens will be introduced on the Desiros?

 

[swt_passenger]

Does anyone know when the new PIS screens will be introduced on the Desiros?

They aren’t due until Dec 2020 as per the franchise agreement, so are not yet delayed...

 

[Doomotron]

Does anyone know when the new PIS screens will be introduced on the Desiros?

Are they going to replace the old ones or are they in addition to the dot matrix ones?

 

[RealTrains07]

Are they going to replace the old ones or are they in addition to the dot matrix ones?

They should work alongside the old system as per the new screens being fitted to the LNR desiro units

I doubt Siemens will use different screens they are similar trains

 

[SWRtrain_fan]

444029 has been repainted and is expected to enter service tomorrow, 450043 has also been repainted, 444021 is due for repainting next, and 450006 is expected to replace 450043.

 

[Dan15812]

SWR Desiro Repaints

444s

006, 007, 015, 021* and 029 (4 units)(9% complete)

450s

006*,021, 036 and 043 (3 units)(2% complete)


Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)

 

[Goldfish62]

SWR Desiro Repaints

444s

006, 007, 015, 021* and 029 (4 units)(9% complete)

450s

006*,021, 036 and 043 (3 units)(2% complete)


Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)

Thanks for the update.

Modern Railways reports that the programme will take 3.5 years with one unit per week being released.

 

[Murray J]

Modern Railways reports that the programme will take 3.5 years with one unit per week being released.

yeah, which means if this continues at it's current rate by the time they're all finished, they'll only be a year to go until the end of the franchise, and that's if SWR isn't nationalised or goes bankrupt which is looking possible at this point.

 

[Nicks]

Stagecoach has announced a major new rebrand (livery/colours) for it's bus operations - one wonders how this would have been applied to the rolling stock if SWT had survived!

 

[Goldfish62]

Stagecoach has announced a major new rebrand (livery/colours) for it's bus operations - one wonders how this would have been applied to the rolling stock if SWT had survived!

The rebrand is absolutely dreadful so it's probably just as well we'll never see it applied to trains! It would however be in vogue - predominantly white with splodges of colour here and there.

 

[CR165022]

Stagecoach has announced a major new rebrand (livery/colours) for it's bus operations - one wonders how this would have been applied to the rolling stock if SWT had survived!

this is what it would have looked like (post from one of the first pages of this thread)

 

[Goldfish62]

this is what it would have looked like (post from one of the first pages of this thread)

The OP was referring to the new brand launched last week. This render is clearly based on the old Stagecoach brand.

 

[pigs bay]

Going off tangent slightly.......I think the DfT should adopt one livery, like they have in Scotland with just a subtle branding on the side like SWR has "A Firstgroup and MTR company"

 

[fgwrich]

this is what it would have looked like (post from one of the first pages of this thread)

So looking at that, they would have stuck to a mixed version of the original SWT livery, with the orange lines as seen on version 2 of the 159/1s.

 

[Goldfish62]

So looking at that, they would have stuck to a mixed version of the original SWT livery, with the orange lines as seen on version 2 of the 159/1s.

And if they'd then changed mid-franchise to be in line with the new Stagecoach branding one possibility would be white, with pale blue and yellow ends and green doors.

 

[CR165022]

And if they'd then changed mid-franchise to be in line with the new Stagecoach branding one possibility would be white, with pale blue and yellow ends and green doors.

i would have liked to see that actually