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westcoaster
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Separate units 112 was the offending unit, would have moved on quicker from crystal palace but had a mutiny onboard with one passenger refusing to leave the train (was trying unsuccessfully to gee people up to get back on). Defective AWS, 40 mph all the way to three bridges.
Deepgreen
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Interesting - do the rules state that trains may run ECS at reduced speed without AWS? Did the AWS defect render the train completely unresponsive to automatic warnings/overspeed activations, etc?
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There was one unit sat in Three Bridges last year with Cambridge on the front. The codes for many of the future possible trips exist and work like a Three Bridges to Bedford calling at...
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westcoaster
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Section tw5 of the rule book applies
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tsr
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Not the first time a 700 has had AWS issues there, as I understand it. In fact, I believe the previous issue was similar.
I raised the inability of TL services to call at Crystal Palace during disruption way back, with GTR's predecessors - so of course it was especially annoying that it seemed nobody could actually get a direct train to stop there and take the detrained passengers to East Croydon and points south thereof! Had this been done, and had there been sufficient staff and information to relay such information on, I suspect the line could have been opened a good 20 minutes quicker, reducing the impact to the Southern Metro in the peak.
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Many units have AWS issues. The 387/1 were awful for that when first introduced.
westcoaster
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The AWS on 387's was due to the fact the cancellation time was reduced to 1.8 seconds and not the normal 2.8, they also had lots of issues with the tpws mk4.
Stew998
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Was on the 1952 from Blackfriars to Brighton tonight and the doors did not open at Three Bridges - the driver did not realise until after the train had left. The cameras were working but he couldn't see/didn't notice that the doors weren't opening apparently.
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Is this actually possible?
Stew998
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I'm only reporting what was announced by the driver but it seems so.
I wasn't getting off at Three Bridges and the train was not busy so I didn't notice anything odd at the time.
I'm not sure how the driver realised, perhaps station staff reported it and control contacted the driver?
The issue is that when you stop at a station the hmi should default to the door screen but they don't always do it.
If you stop and think you've pressed the release and you haven't got the screen up then yes it is possible however you still have the interlock lights so it's definitely a bit of an odd one
If you stop and think you've pressed the release and you haven't got the screen up then yes it is possible however you still have the interlock lights so it's definitely a bit of an odd one
Deepgreen
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Thanks for providing that - always learning.
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There was one unit sat in Three Bridges last year with Cambridge on the front. The codes for many of the future possible trips exist and work like a Three Bridges to Bedford calling at...
Nice shot of very manual SDO there!
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That's not the fault I'm talking about but the large volumes of calls from drivers over messages received. All now long fixed.
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On one of the commissinging/testing runs. Can't remember which 12 car tho. Was pre service tho. As that required door release they had to put those up at doors plus staff the train.
Deepgreen
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I'd guessed that was more or less it.
The way the tape comes out and retracts at stations really has to be seen to be believed.
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I feel sure that buttons would be more er reliable.
The tape is used to stop those reliable button from allowing people freely into the train
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700's undergoing more night testing on the GN tonight.
700110 is running north as 3Z01 0020 XHE Hornsey EMUD - XHE Hornsey EMUD via Peterborough signal P78.
700110 is running north as 3Z01 0020 XHE Hornsey EMUD - XHE Hornsey EMUD via Peterborough signal P78.
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It ran to Stevenage via Hertford the night before.
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Don't think the Canal Tunnels have been commissioned yet?
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The test team tell me that 700110 will be based at Hornsey E.M.U.D until around late March and will be running each night out and about on the GN.
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I'm (finally) doing my first 700 journey and so far I don't find the seats comfortable (disappointing to me, because I find the 387 seats to be wonderful. These are definitely not the same).
The power sockets in the declassified 1st are nice, but there's an awful buzzing noise. If I didn't have my noise cancellers I would literally have to bail out and wait for the next train. Presumably (hopefully?) this is a fault? (2O49, the 1200 from Blackfriars in case anyone wants to check).
The white on blue LCD screens are great an easy to read. Personally, I think the accessible toilet arrangements aren't good for someone in a wheelchair, the gap to get past it is too small to get past comfortably in a wheelchair.
As for the gap around the 1st class door, the engineers responsible should hang their heads in shame. I know why it's there but a door where you can grab one edge to open it, but the equivalent top edge is a finger trap hazard that needs a warning sign? That's just poor design.
Still, the ride is pretty nice; so overall I'd say, 7 / 10 from me.
The power sockets in the declassified 1st are nice, but there's an awful buzzing noise. If I didn't have my noise cancellers I would literally have to bail out and wait for the next train. Presumably (hopefully?) this is a fault? (2O49, the 1200 from Blackfriars in case anyone wants to check).
The white on blue LCD screens are great an easy to read. Personally, I think the accessible toilet arrangements aren't good for someone in a wheelchair, the gap to get past it is too small to get past comfortably in a wheelchair.
As for the gap around the 1st class door, the engineers responsible should hang their heads in shame. I know why it's there but a door where you can grab one edge to open it, but the equivalent top edge is a finger trap hazard that needs a warning sign? That's just poor design.
Still, the ride is pretty nice; so overall I'd say, 7 / 10 from me.
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