The New Measurement Train

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  1. calc7

    calc7 Established Member

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    I'm a semi-frequent long-distance traveller, living in London, yet I seem to have seen this train in so many different places over the last year or two. (Sheffield, York, Manchester, Huddersfield, Derby, Rugeley WCML, Euston this evening, and many more). When I saw it earlier today, I wondered if anyone sees it this frequently, or if it's just an ongoing matter of luck for me?!
     
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  3. sprinterguy

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    When I used to live in North East England, I used to see it on a pretty much weekly basis, on its' weekly Saturday diagram through Newcastle. I used to run into it at Carlisle once in a while as well, and I still come across it at least every couple of months or so now that I'm in West Midlands; In Birmingham, or Banbury, etc.

    The NMT runs a fairly fixed set of diagrams that repeat quite frequently; every couple of weeks or so; so it's no surprise that quite a few people see it around the place a fair bit.
     
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    Its was in newcastle last Wednesday i think it was. it was coming out of sunderland station heading towards newcastle as i was walking across the wearmouth bridge.
     
  5. DaveNewcastle

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    It is stabled in Newcastle most weekends, so its not surprising that it will be seen travelling to or from the north east regularly.

    Somone kindly posted its default weekly diagrams on here recently, you can search for them if you're interested.
     
  6. TomJ93

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    When does it next visit Coventry/Nuneaton/New Street? :)
     
  7. Eagle

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    I can't; the vBulletin search doesn't like words of less than four characters (such as 'NMT'—I'm thinking it's unlikely that the post in question used its Sunday name), and it wouldn't be much use anyway as if you search for two words it throws up every thread that contains those two words whether or not they were in the same post, which is sometimes less than useful.

    Rant over :P
     
  8. Lrd

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    Your lucky!

    I've only seen the NMT once! As it was passing through Southampton Central.
     
  9. eastwestdivide

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    On the searching, you can use this format on google:

    nmt site:railforums.co.uk

    i.e. search for nmt, but only on the site railforums.co.uk
     
  10. Hydro

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    I see it all the time ;)

    It's going to get a hell of a lot more predictable soon, it's dropping it's 16 weekly cycle and going back to it's old 2 weekly cycle.

    There is a pattern it follows, but damned if I can remember it. It's second home is Heaton, so Newcastle is usually a good place to see it.
     
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    I saw it in King's Cross the other weekend and wondered if I showed them my NR ID, would they let me on but sadly, I didn't have time.
     
  12. Hydro

    Hydro Established Member

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    I doubt it, all visits need to be prebooked.
     
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    This is the last version I had, albeit somewhat old now.

    WEEK ONE
    Monday
    1Q36 Heaton to Derby via Hexham, Carlisle, S+C, Leeds (reverse), then either Diggle, Manchester Picc (reverse) and Diggle, or Hebden Bridge and Manchester Vic. (reverse) and Hedden Bridge OR
    1Q37 Heaton to Derby via Hexham, Carlisle, G+SW, Kilmarnock (reverse), G+SW, Carlisle, Shap, Crewe.
    Tuesday
    1Q28 Derby to Derby via Alrewas, Lichfield(reverse), WCML slows, Euston(reverse), WCML slow lines, Crewe (reverse) OR
    1Q22 Derby to Crewe via Alrewas, Lichfield(reverse), WCML slows, Euston(reverse), WCML slow lines, Crewe, Wilmslow, Manchester Picc.(reverse), Wilmslow
    Wednesday
    Normally no booked duty, but once a quarter, it will run to/from Liverpool:
    1Q23 Crewe to Derby via Liverpool Lime Street(reverse), Crewe(reverse), slow lines, Liverpool Lime Street(reverse), slow lines, Crewe, Stafford, Lichfield and Alrewas
    Thursday
    1Q16 Derby to Old Oak via Leamington, Banbury, Didcot and Reading
    Friday
    1Q18 Old Oak to Plymouth via Reading and the Berks & Hants
    1Q19 Plymouth to Paddington via the Berks & Hants and Reading
    1Q21 Paddington to Derby via Reading, Didcot, Banbury and Leamington
    Saturday
    1Q18 Derby to Heaton via S+C, Carlisle and Hexham

    WEEK TWO
    Monday
    1Q42 Heaton to Derby via Doncaster West yard(recess), Newark, Peterborough, Kings Cross(reverse), Peterborough, Grantham, Nottingham and Spondon
    Tuesday
    1Q26 Derby to Glasgow Central via Crewe, Shap, Beattock
    1Q27 Glasgow Central to Ayr
    Wednesday
    1Q28 Ayr to Glasgow Central
    1Q28 Glasgow Central to Crewe via Beattock, Shap
    1Q27 Crewe to London Euston via Trent Valley and WCML fast lines
    1Q27 London Euston to Derby via WCML fast lines, Trent Valley and Crewe(reverse)
    Thursday
    1Q52 Derby to Derby via MML and St.Pancras(reverse)
    1Q53 Derby to Heaton
    Friday
    (no booked duty - used only if required)
    Saturday
    (no booked duty, but if used out of Derby on Friday, will run to Heaton as 1Q34)

    WEEK THREE
    Monday
    1Q24 Heaton to Derby via Berwick, Edinburgh, Glasgow Queen Street(reverse), Edinburgh, Berwick, Newcastle, Durham, York, Rotherham
    Tuesday
    1Q28 Derby to Derby via Alrewas, Lichfield(reverse), WCML slows, Euston(reverse), WCML slow lines, Crewe (reverse)
    Wednesday
    (no booked duty - used only if required)
    Thursday
    1Q25 Derby to Derby via Stoke, Macclesfield, Stockport(reverse), Macclesfield, Stoke, Norton Bridge, Stafford, Wolverhampton, New Street, Coventry, Rugby, Northampton and return
    1Q17 Derby to Old Oak via Bromsgrove, Bristol, Taunton(reverse) and Bath
    Friday
    1Q20 Old Oak to Derby via Didcot, Newport, Swansea(reverse), Newport, Bristol Parkway, Charfield, Ashchurch, Bromsgrove
    Saturday
    1Q34 Derby to Heaton

    WEEK FOUR
    Monday
    1Q07 Heaton to Ferme Park via Doncaster, ECML, Kings Cross(reverse)
    1Q08 Ferme Park to Derby via Kings Cross(reverse), ECML, Doncaster, Leeds(reverse)
    Tuesday
    (no booked duty - used only if required)
    Wednesday
    1Q26 Derby to Glasgow Central via Crewe, Shap, Beattock
    1Q26 Glasgow Central to Crewe via Beattock, Shap
    1Q27 Crewe to London Euston via Trent Valley and WCML fast lines
    1Q27 London Euston to Derby via WCML fast lines, Trent Valley and Crewe(reverse)
    Then special duties - for example:
    Thursday
    1Q11 Derby to Heaton
    Friday
    1Q12 Heaton to Heaton via Berwick, Edinburgh, Fife, Dundee and Aberdeen(reverse)
    OR
    Thursday
    1Q30 Derby to Crewe via Crewe, North Wales Coast and Holyhead(reverse)
    Friday
    1Q20 Crewe to Newport via Shrewsbury and Hereford
    1Q20 Newport to Derby via Hereford, Shrewsbury and Crewe(reverse)
    Saturday
    1Q34 Derby to Heaton (doesn't run if Aberdeen trip operates)

    Data - courtesy Freightmaster
     
  14. Hydro

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    I'd be surprised if it's changed a great deal from that. Once a diagram works (however well /gripe) it tends to stick like crap to a blanket.
     
  15. northernrail

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    Will it be due around Manchester anytime soon?
     
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    Do you work on it? or drive it or something? :D
     
  17. Hydro

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    The former, but very rarely nowadays.
     
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    When is the NMT HST train running to Plymouth next?
     
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