Transpennine Express decide not to use MK3's on limited services

[gimmea50anyday]

No its the pretendolino. Mk3 rake heading to TPE in the next few months.

 

[GW43125]

No its the pretendolino. Mk3 rake heading to TPE in the next few months.

Any news on how the conversion is going?

 

[michael74]

No its the pretendolino. Mk3 rake heading to TPE in the next few months.

Ahh, I see (or rather I didn't), thanks.

 

[Mag_seven]

No its the pretendolino. Mk3 rake heading to TPE in the next few months.

When was it transited to Laria then? Bit annoyed I missed that.

 

[221129]

Doesn't look like it's been touched since it was dumped there last year.

 

[CosherB]

I've read elsewhere that the set has a number of 'significant problems' that need to be rectified. Sounds like it needs a bit more than fresh paint and carpets ....

 

[GW43125]

I've read elsewhere that the set has a number of 'significant problems' that need to be rectified. Sounds like it needs a bit more than fresh paint and carpets ....

Looks like someone needs...
*insert image of "percussive maintenance device" here as it sends the formatting well and truly out the window*

 

[395 Olympic Javelin]

Is it still at the sidings near the Main Line cause I am hoping to take photos of it on Good Friday

 

[snowball]

Did michael74 and Mag_seven intend to refer to Laira?

 

[dave87016]

Is it still at the sidings near the Main Line cause I am hoping to take photos of it on Good Friday

If it has not been moved since I went there early Febuary then yes its possible to get a pic from a passing train

 

[michael74]

If it has not been moved since I went there early Febuary then yes its possible to get a pic from a passing train

Indeed Laira, my Dyslexia often gets the better of me. Yes, right next to the mainline, a lot of trees and shrubs in front though

 

[gimmea50anyday]

Dunno. Seemingly TPE management cant make their minds up. T+T vs DVT? will we wont we? Newcastle? Scarborough? Anywhere?...

 

[Mag_seven]

Did michael74 and Mag_seven intend to refer to Laira?

Bugger I knew there was something not quite right with the OP's spelling - too lazy to check it out before posting.

 

[CosherB]

Looks like someone needs...
*insert image of "percussive maintenance device" here as it sends the formatting well and truly out the window*

Eh? ......

 

[dk1]

DVT 82126 is an out & out disaster. GA gave up with the darn thing as its reliability wasn't a patch on ours. Never really needed it but tried to keep the Pretendolino intact.

 

[AndyNLondon]

Eh? ......

"percussive maintenance" means the "give it a good thump" approach to fixing things, if that helps work out what a "percussive maintenance device" is...

(Personally, I'm of the "if it moves and it shouldn't, gaffer tape it; if it doesn't move and it should, spray on more WD40" school of DIY bodging!)

 

[455driver]

(Personally, I'm of the "if it moves and it shouldn't, gaffer tape it; if it doesn't move and it should, spray on more WD40" school of DIY bodging!)

Love it!

I am more of a 'gently' persuader DIYer myself.

 

[route:oxford]

Love it!

I am more of a 'gently' persuader DIYer myself.

For me it has to be:-

"If it jams, force it. If it breaks, hide it."

 

[noddy1878]

If it has not been moved since I went there early Febuary then yes its possible to get a pic from a passing train

It hasn't moved. Was still in the same place on Tuesday 4th April.

 

[WatcherZero]

Supposed to be delivered to TPE in September.

 

[Darandio]

Supposed to be delivered to TPE in September.

Yes, September 2016. Well, kind of, in terms of readiness.....

38. Provision of additional Mark III coaches

38.1 In accordance with its obligations in paragraph 1 of Schedule 1.7 (The Train Fleet) the Franchisee shall enter into a Rolling Stock Lease in relation to ten Mark III coaches using all reasonable endeavours to ensure that all such rolling stock shall be capable of unrestricted passenger carrying service by no later than 1 April 2017.

38.2 By no later than 30 September 2016, the Franchisee shall in relation to the vehicles referred to in paragraph 38.1 overhaul and refurbish them and form them into two sets of coaches each providing 280 standard class seats, 44 first class seats and a standing capacity of an additional 140 passengers. In carrying out such overhaul and refurbishment works the Franchisee shall incur operational expenditure of not less than 15.

38.3 The Franchisee shall ensure that sufficient appropriate locomotives are available to it to enable the two sets of Mark III coaches to be available for unrestricted passenger carrying service by no later than 30 September 2016.

 

[WatcherZero]

September 2017 is what TPE have always been working to, should be two months ahead of first mk5 rake being received. Possible that the 2016 in the franchise agreement is a typo.

 

[gimmea50anyday]

Internally I have always understokd it as september 2016 and massively delayed as a result of GA being late in release. But as the rolling stock plans and deployment have changed numerous times over the last few months no one pays any attention anymore

 

[Mordac]

For me it has to be:-

"If it jams, force it. If it breaks, hide it."

I prefer 'if it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway.'

 

[43096]

Internally I have always understokd it as september 2016 and massively delayed as a result of GA being late in release. But as the rolling stock plans and deployment have changed numerous times over the last few months no one pays any attention anymore

Which is being a bit economical with the truth, as the set has been at Laira for some time now and WorstGroup have done precisely nothing with it in that time.

 

[59CosG95]

Which is being a bit economical with the truth, as the set has been at Laira for some time now and WorstGroup have done precisely nothing with it in that time.

Perhaps the fact that 70803 was being repaired a the time meant that the Pretendolino/Pretendabellio/Pretendine Express rake never had a window to do it; then again, I have no idea on staff output/morale to do 3rd party work at Laira.

 

[CosherB]

Perhaps the fact that 70803 was being repaired a the time meant that the Pretendolino/Pretendabellio/Pretendine Express rake never had a window to do it; then again, I have no idea on staff output/morale to do 3rd party work at Laira.

What's 'morale' got anything to do with it?! lol

 

[CosherB]

Internally I have always understokd it as september 2016 and massively delayed as a result of GA being late in release. But as the rolling stock plans and deployment have changed numerous times over the last few months no one pays any attention anymore

Is the fact that the two DRS DVTs had remedial cosmetic work started at Loram, then stopped and finally send to Long Marston, got anything linked with the Pretendolino impasse?

 

[59CosG95]

What's 'morale' got anything to do with it?! lol

Possibly a reluctance to repair a rival company's Mk3s? I think I may have just out-wibbled the entire forum!

 

[pemma]

September 2017 is what TPE have always been working to, should be two months ahead of first mk5 rake being received. Possible that the 2016 in the franchise agreement is a typo.

According to Porterbrook 10 x of their mk3 carriages are already being leased to TPE on a lease which expires in December 2019. TPE may have been subleasing them back to Anglia?

The original plan was for TPE to have the mk3s in regular service by September but to have them refurbished and available for special events (like the Grand National) by now.