[Trivia] Unused Features in rolling stock?

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craigybagel

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How about 125mph on the class 67's?
I thought that it was very much a theoretical top speed :D
What about the ones operating as Thunderbirds on the ECML? I'm sure there's a lower limit for them when they haul 91 + MKIV sets (100mph IIRC?) but what about when they're light engine? 67s aren't subject to the normal 60/75 limit that most locos have when running light AFAIK?
 

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Is the buffet counter on the sleeper Mk2s ever used? I just tend to see seated sleeper passengers in the lounge car rather than the counter. Don't see why it should only be limited to sleeper passengers anyway.
I'm willing to bet you don't.
 

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Never seen the electronic destination board operational on any Grand Central or Hull Trains class 180s...well, at least not the ones I've been on.

Also the RETB slot in each cab onboard Scotrail 170s, where a gaping hole is left on the wall. Although conductors and drivers alike often use this as a newspaper or drinks holder from what I've seen anyway.

Haven't seen any class 380s doubled up since testing, 7 years ago (crikey, 7 years already!). I guess the gangways only purpose is to impede the driver as much as possible.
My understanding those areas were for retrofitting of the mitrac computer screens that are in place on the newer turbos. 401-424 and 470 and 471 have the spaces for this but 425-434, 450-461, 472-478 all had the screens fitted on delivery to ScotRail.
 
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The built in tail lamps on mk4 coaches. The TSOE ones may have seen very occasional use when a set has been conventionally hauled following a DVT fault but I doubt many of the lamps in the intermediate coaches in the sets have ever been used.
 

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I'm willing to bet you don't.
Me too. What does a "seated sleeper passenger" look like, anyway? I see prejudices creeping in here. Unless he just means they walk in and purchase at the door to the lounge car, which some crews do seem to do rather than opening the counter.

I've paid £200+ for a First Class berth, and I've paid £50ish for a seat. I wasn't dressed or otherwise looking any different in each case.
 

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You can put a coat on, I can't (legally) strip off. I find the temperature right for static air. I'd accept higher but only with opening windows or personal fans to ensure the air is moving.
It isn't so much just the ambient temperature, but the fact it is maintained by having the A/C noticeably blasting cold air into the carriage. It simply isn't needed or appropriate on anything other than a warm day! The 'air blending' theory is daft, you only need refrigerated air if it's too warm. This is highly unlikely if it's already cold outside. Just set the bloody heating lower! One doesn't tend to sit indoors in winter with central heating on 110% and then open all the windows!
 

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Further to my earlier rant about Desiro aircon... :D

This morning I have the icy pleasure of being sat on a 444 with failed saloon heating. Guess what the aircon is doing? Yup. It's freezing in here. Awful, awful system.
 

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Further to my earlier rant about Desiro aircon... :D

This morning I have the icy pleasure of being sat on a 444 with failed saloon heating. Guess what the aircon is doing? Yup. It's freezing in here. Awful, awful system.
However it is extremely useful in the summer where other trains are absolutely sweltering hot while when you step onto a Desiro it is lovely and cool.
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One doesn't tend to sit indoors in winter with central heating on 110% and then open all the windows!
That's exactly what I'm doing now, albeit in my office. Best of both world - nice and warm, but with plenty of good fresh air circulating. Works on trains too, the class 365 in particular, where opening the windows can have the effect of putting the heating on full due to (presumably) the position of the thermostat.
 

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Something that hopefully would never be used on any rolling stock (but there for a valid reason) - emergency window hammers and 'glo sticks'.

On some stock here, passenger counting facilities are provided at doors, but was disabled pretty quickly.

PIS system of the 2800 flett, and plenty of stuff in the PIS systems are never played (or likely to be)
 

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Something that hopefully would never be used on any rolling stock (but there for a valid reason) - emergency window hammers and 'glo sticks'.
I heard a story recently - may have read it here tbh - of the glow sticks being used, but the TOC staff member not realising that they weren't light sensitive, so when it got dark and they were needed, they'd expired!

Further to my earlier rant about Desiro aircon... :D

This morning I have the icy pleasure of being sat on a 444 with failed saloon heating. Guess what the aircon is doing? Yup. It's freezing in here. Awful, awful system.
Given the 'pleasure' at work of being one of those who have to manage office aircon, I wonder if the aircon units are still working not realising that the heating element has gone - or even a faulty temperature sensor (one of ours at work think it's 35ºC so keeps blasting out cold air to reduce the temperature to the 27ºC it's set to...)
 

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That's exactly what I'm doing now, albeit in my office. Best of both world - nice and warm, but with plenty of good fresh air circulating. Works on trains too, the class 365 in particular, where opening the windows can have the effect of putting the heating on full due to (presumably) the position of the thermostat.
There's a difference between 'fresh' ambient air from outside, and refrigerated air blasting from an A/C vent. I gather you would refrain from cranking up the air con in your office to 'blend' with the heating?!
 

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I heard a story recently - may have read it here tbh - of the glow sticks being used, but the TOC staff member not realising that they weren't light sensitive, so when it got dark and they were needed, they'd expired!

Given the 'pleasure' at work of being one of those who have to manage office aircon, I wonder if the aircon units are still working not realising that the heating element has gone - or even a faulty temperature sensor (one of ours at work think it's 35ºC so keeps blasting out cold air to reduce the temperature to the 27ºC it's set to...)
Why is it set to 27 degrees? That is like a beach in a hot country, not an office. At which point in the history of the UK did the people who live here become used to it always being 27 degrees. The average UK temperature is only 13.5 degrees. It does my head in because so many people have their heating cranked up at home that I have to sit in the office in a shirt and tie sweating my tits off like I am on the costa del sol.
 

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Why is it set to 27 degrees? That is like a beach in a hot country, not an office. At which point in the history of the UK did the people who live here become used to it always being 27 degrees. The average UK temperature is only 13.5 degrees. It does my head in because so many people have their heating cranked up at home that I have to sit in the office in a shirt and tie sweating my tits off like I am on the costa del sol.
Because everybody in that particular office complains that it's too cold if it's set to the 20ºC it's supposed to be set to. (My particular office it's set to a much more reasonable 16ºC!)
 
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