Under utilised class 67s

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  1. Chris217

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    Was wondering actually how many 67s
    still see service these days as they are little used.
    I know one works Gerald and one on the North Wales coast.
    How many are allocated to ECML Thunderbird duties.?
    And do any ever appear on freight.
    I guess the majority of the class are stored
    rotting away at Crewe Electric or Toton.

    Would be nice to see a revival in them tbh.
     
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  3. Nick Ashwell

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    IIRC TfW have a spare 67 as well. Do we know how many locos are undergoing mods for Mk4 compatibility?

    I also think two are assigned to Royal Train duties
     
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    What a lovely poem.
     
  5. ExRes

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    Latest info on WNXX for stored 67s

    At Toton - 003/007/019/030

    At Crewe - 009/011/017/018/022/025/026
     
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    I'm trying to think of a more shameful waste of assets than the 67s.

    Nothing springs to mind
     
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    They wouldn't be sitting idle if there was profitable work for them to do.
     
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    After having driven them I'm trying to think of a more shameful waste of money than buying them in the first place .......
     
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    What are/were their failings?
     
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    Am I right in thinking that they were basically procured to work mail trains......which then promptly ceased to operate?

    Are they designed to haul anything heavier than coaching stock?
     
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    The class 60s rusting away at toton for years the class 56s and 58s under ews, the class 90s and 92s at crewe electric quite a few examples.
     
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    North of London Eurostars.
    Nightstars.
    Class 92.
     
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    Was that a Haiku to match the OP's poem?
     
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    If I remember correctly TFW are getting 7 skips for future use on the Gerald and Manchester once they receive the ex-LNER Mk4 stock(?). There was something on FB a while ago I’ll have a look later.
     
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    So many locos sitting idle. If we had 300 less 66's the railways would be more interesting.
     
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    I don’t know, Freightliner 70s?!
     
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    Even less freight than now along with the inability to compete for new flows, that's a strange definition of interesting.
     
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    Their inability to pull the skin off a rice pudding due to their very low (for the installed HP) tractive effort does not render them very useful as mixed traffic locos.
     
  19. Chris217

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    Thanks for all the replies.
    I forgot the 2 Royals and 2 Colas ones.

    Yes it is shameful that modern powerful locomotives are laid up unused.

    Perhaps the loss of so much freight work is the main reason.

    Perhaps if loco hauled passenger trains make a comeback maybe then we could see a mass reinstatement of the said sidelined 67s.

    Only a fantasy,but it would be nice to see 67s+mk3s or mk4s+DVT on the longer routes that warrant more than a 2 car unit.
     
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    67025 made a comeback today on a test run to Stafford in Transport for Wales livery, so that's one that should be in use with the mark 4s.
     
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    Aren't the 67s rather thirsty, hence Chiltern replacing them with 68s to haul their Mk3s instead?
     
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    It would. It would be intresting to see any freight on the railway.

    Why do you think ews and then the other foc bought class 66 locomotives?
     
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    Yet another 67 livery. Whatever else may be good or bad, they shouldn't suffer from rust!

    Any pics?
     
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    67025 along with 67008 and 67029 allocated on TOPS to the Chilterns pool (WACC). The Wales pool (WAWC) shows 67001/12-14.

    Maybe some reallocations to come.
     
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    Yes, because their engine is derived from a 50-year-old basic two-stroke design.
     
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    Why is there a Chilterns pool considering its been five years since they withdrew them?
     
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    There's been a 67 hauling the Inverness portion of the sleeper and it's been back on the sleeper recently with a 73 hauling the new mk 5's.
     
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    I reckon their best use is cases where there are tiny loco hauled trains that they could work on
    DRS Nuclear trains spring to mind
    NR stuff
    possibly snowplow/leaf mulch stuff etc.
    Bear in mind, I'm assuming they use less fuel than something like a 37 or 66 which I gather is a big assumption to make.
    Or we could do a typical pro BR rant and say they should be stationed all over the place and just used for thunderbird duties
     
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    No idea but they are the allocations.
     

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