Violent York thug is locked up (but not for very long)

[STEVIEBOY1]

I have a better suggestion. Not only does it save money but also helps the environments and makes work safer in Bangladesh;

Prison Hulks!

Did they not try something like that in recent years off the coast of Portland/Weymouth in Dorset? I don't think it lasted very long.

 

[furnessvale]

I hope anyone calling for longer and harsher sentences more often saw the panorama programme on BBC this evening and will acknowledge the issues and inadequacies with the current prison system and population

Indeed there is a problem but the first question should be "Does this person need putting in gaol", not " Have we got a gaol place for him".

If we are not putting people in gaol because the answer to the second question is "No", we are abdicating our responsibility to the public.

 

[DarloRich]

Indeed there is a problem but the first question should be "Does this person need putting in gaol", not " Have we got a gaol place for him".

If we are not putting people in gaol because the answer to the second question is "No", we are abdicating our responsibility to the public.

agreed - but that answer is always going to be the later unless we fund adequate capacity within the system to house all these people AND adequate staff members to keep them locked up and to hopefully retrain them away from a life of crime. Rehabilitation will struggle if there is no one to teach the captive to read and write properly or drugs are rampant in prisons. That £6BN removed from the prison budget will go long way to help...................

PS Prisons are already full with many at over capacity and most understaffed but watch those with a desire for harsher sentences blanch when asked to have a prison near them or to foot the bill!

 

[AlterEgo]

agreed - but that answer is always going to be the later unless we fund adequate capacity within the system to house all these people AND adequate staff members to keep them locked up and to hopefully retrain them away from a life of crime. Rehabilitation will struggle if there is no one to teach the captive to read and write properly or drugs are rampant in prisons. That £6BN removed from the prison budget will go long way to help...................

PS Prisons are already full with many at over capacity and most understaffed but watch those with a desire for harsher sentences blanch when asked to have a prison near them or to foot the bill!

Part of the problem is that the effect of punishment is two-tier, and offers diminishing returns.

As a "normal", law-abiding guy, the threat of even being in court is severe. Even a community order would probably see me lose my job - in essence, I have a long way to fall. Prison would destroy my life.

Now imagine if I already have three prison terms to my name - how effective is prison as a deterrent? Almost none at all. How effective is it as a solution? Well, if I keep offending, one can argue again not effective at all.

One day in the future, people will look upon our civilisation and wonder why we bothered with mass incarceration, in much the same way we incredulously look at the village stocks now.

There needs to be a serious debate about prison, why we use it, and what we want it to achieve.

 

[furnessvale]

There needs to be a serious debate about prison, why we use it, and what we want it to achieve.

As a retired police officer I can categorically state that prison has one useful purpose.

Every day a lag spends behind bars is one more day that he cannot thieve, assault, rape or do whatever else is his specialisation, to the general public.

Anything else is wishful thinking.

 

[DarloRich]

Part of the problem is that the effect of punishment is two-tier, and offers diminishing returns.

As a "normal", law-abiding guy, the threat of even being in court is severe. Even a community order would probably see me lose my job - in essence, I have a long way to fall. Prison would destroy my life.

Now imagine if I already have three prison terms to my name - how effective is prison as a deterrent? Almost none at all. How effective is it as a solution? Well, if I keep offending, one can argue again not effective at all.

One day in the future, people will look upon our civilisation and wonder why we bothered with mass incarceration, in much the same way we incredulously look at the village stocks now.

There needs to be a serious debate about prison, why we use it, and what we want it to achieve.

I get that. However, the sad fact is that many adult prisoners enter prison with reading and writing abilities that would shame a primary school child. They leave with no improvement and often a drug addiction. They should be coming out with an improvement in their life chances and better skills. If you cant read you cant get a job! Instead the prisons are vastly understaffed meaning drugs and violence cant be contained and education is non existent.

Any wonder they re offend? What about a society that thinks incarceration alone will stop criminality?

As a retired police officer I can categorically state that prison has one useful purpose.

Every day a lag spends behind bars is one more day that he cannot thieve, assault, rape or do whatever else is his specialisation, to the general public.

Anything else is wishful thinking.

I understand your point of view but I best tell the couple of reformed ex convicts (one who runs his own business) i know to get themselves over to Pounland and get back on the rob. One of them credits the Prison Education Service with turning him around and giving him an chance in life.

Of course detention and exclusion from society is part of the penal process, but so is a chance to avoid a return trip. We often forget that.

 

[TheEdge]

Did they not try something like that in recent years off the coast of Portland/Weymouth in Dorset? I don't think it lasted very long.

HM Prison Weare. As far as I understand it was opened to ease overcrowding, lasted a decade and then was too expensive to run and refurbish so was sold to the Nigerians as an oil worker living facility.

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

HM Prison Weare. As far as I understand it was opened to ease overcrowding, lasted a decade and then was too expensive to run and refurbish so was sold to the Nigerians as an oil worker living facility.

Oh, it went on for much longer than I had thought.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Of course detention and exclusion from society is part of the penal process, but so is a chance to avoid a return trip. We often forget that.

I am sure that there are many now serving prison sentences who have been brought up in an atmosphere of "anything goes" in their childhood and late youth years who care naught for "second chances" and use their time inside to hone their skills in criminality, in order to continue life as they know it as before.

There are no such matters as "Damascene moments" for such as these. Prison sentences are just a fact of life that they accept as part of the life that they lead.

 

[DarloRich]

I am sure that there are many now serving prison sentences who have been brought up in an atmosphere of "anything goes" in their childhood and late youth years who care naught for "second chances" and use their time inside to hone their skills in criminality, in order to continue life as they know it as before.

There are no such matters as "Damascene moments" for such as these. Prison sentences are just a fact of life that they accept as part of the life that they lead.

Paul - when a majority of people entering the adult prison system cant read or write above the level expected of primary school child ( and many at a lower level than that) and leave no better off something is wrong. it is hard to get a job when you cant read. As an aside something is wrong, generally, in our society that people reach adulthood without being able to read.


Perhaps if £6Bn hadn't been cut from the prisons budget we might have adequately staffed and provisioned prisons. I suggest you watch the recent Panorama as a starting point for understanding some of the issues and why reeducation doesn't seem to work.

I have absolulty no issue with locking people away. We just have to accept that comes with a cost that we as tax payers have to bear.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Paul - when a majority of people entering the adult prison system cant read or write above the level expected of primary school child ( and many at a lower level than that) and leave no better off something is wrong. it is hard to get a job when you cant read. As an aside something is wrong, generally, in our society that people reach adulthood without being able to read.


Perhaps if £6Bn hadn't been cut from the prisons budget we might have adequately staffed and provisioned prisons. I suggest you watch the recent Panorama as a starting point for understanding some of the issues and why reeducation doesn't seem to work.

I have absolulty no issue with locking people away. We just have to accept that comes with a cost that we as tax payers have to bear.

The point that my posting had sought to make was not that of poor educational standards but of the general attitude prevailing in many deprived areas of "anything goes" where criminality is not viewed as something abhorrent to some, but just an established way of life. All the education in the world will not make them have the "Damascene moments" to which the more educated classes hope to bring them into a more civilised understanding of what is meant by "society" in the 21st century.

London, for example in Georgian and Victorian times, had such a warped understanding of life by those at the foot of the tree of humanity in that area that Dickens sought to encapsulate in the novels of the time and was well shown in the thwarted attempts of those charitable-minded philanthopists who sought to raise the understanding of the affected classes.

 

[DarloRich]

The point that my posting had sought to make was not that of poor educational standards but of the general attitude prevailing in many deprived areas of "anything goes" where criminality is not viewed as something abhorrent to some, but just an established way of life. All the education in the world will not make them have the "Damascene moments" to which the more educated classes hope to bring them into a more civilised understanding of what is meant by "society" in the 21st century.

That is a wider societal issue and one I would lay at the door of several governments but mainly several conservative governments.

The prison system can only work with what is delivered to it. Of course it must lock people up although that is proving difficult due to staff cuts. My point is better educational achievement and better social cohesiveness would/might turn people away from looking at crime as an option. If it doesn't then part of the prison process has to be to try and provide that education and employment skills prisoners lack. They are a captive market after all!

The simple fact is that we as a country have allowed public and social services to be massively defunded. We then complain they cant deliver!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

That is a wider societal issue and one I would lay at the door of several governments but mainly several conservative governments.

The prison system can only work with what is delivered to it. Of course it must lock people up although that is proving difficult due to staff cuts. My point is better educational achievement and better social cohesiveness would/might turn people away from looking at crime as an option. If it doesn't then part of the prison process has to be to try and provide that education and employment skills prisoners lack. They are a captive market after all!

The simple fact is that we as a country have allowed public and social services to be massively defunded. We then complain they cant deliver!

This does not answer the points that I made of those people who regard criminality as a fact of life and all the kindly meant exhortations in the world will not convince those people to the opposite, as they only see life as it exists for them. Those are the people who need to change, not well-meaning action groups.

Bringing political matters into the equation is meaningless to those who live such a life. Looking at the 1960s period onwards, there has been many so-called "socially aware" commitments such as the repeal of the death penalty in 1965, benefits improvements to aid British society, et al.

Since the first Government of Harold Wilson until today, what is the accumulated time that British political parties have spent in office?

 

[DarloRich]

This does not answer the points that I made of those people who regard criminality as a fact of life and all the kindly meant exhortations in the world will not convince those people to the opposite, as they only see life as it exists for them. Those are the people who need to change, not well-meaning action groups.

I don't agree that there is a naturally occurring criminal scum class. They are the product of our society meaning they are a product of us. The question is why they consider criminality to be a fact of life. What will we do about that answer?

Bringing political matters into the equation is meaningless to those who live such a life. Looking at the 1960s period onwards, there has been many so-called "socially aware" commitments such as the repeal of the death penalty in 1965, benefits improvements to aid British society, et al.

Since the first Government of Harold Wilson until today, what is the accumulated time that British political parties have spent in office?

I know you cant ever accept criticism of your beloved Tory party but their polices, and especially the polices of the 80's and early 90's, are to blame for many of the issues we face as a society today. The very types of cohesive communities the Tory party bang on about are exactly the type of communities destroyed by their policies!

Finally it is without doubt the Tories who have cut £6bn from the prison budget during this parliament. Our prisons are a mess and the conservative government are to blame. They have made it so intolerable that prison officers ( not naturally left leaning liberal types) even went on strike!

Watch the recent panorama programme via I player. It might shock you.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Watch the recent panorama programme via I player. It might shock you.

I have not bothered to watch Panorama since that programme in 2012 that was made about the Shadsworth estate.

Watching such programmes only show the matter on hand as viewed by the makers of these programmes.

 

[DarloRich]

I have not bothered to watch Panorama since that programme in 2012 that was made about the Shadsworth estate.

Watching such programmes only show the matter on hand as viewed by the makers of these programmes.

Try to watch it. The programme seems to confirm the experiences described by my acquaintances at other prisons. It is a very worrying sate of affairs when prison officers are unable to enforce rules and discipline for fear of attack or when drugs are rampant within what should be secure units or when searches cant be undertaken because of staff reductions.

Of course that isnt indicative of the whole prison estate (and the government will deny a problem) but prison officers took unofficial industrial action because they were so unhappy with the staffing of their prisons and control of Birmingham prison was lost during a riot.

Things are bad in the prison service. You can hide from the evidence or ask why and what will be done about it.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Try to watch it. The programme seems to confirm the experiences described by my acquaintances at other prisons. It is a very worrying sate of affairs when prison officers are unable to enforce rules and discipline for fear of attack or when drugs are rampant within what should be secure units or when searches cant be undertaken because of staff reductions.

Of course that isnt indicative of the whole prison estate (and the government will deny a problem) but prison officers took unofficial industrial action because they were so unhappy with the staffing of their prisons and control of Birmingham prison was lost during a riot.

Things are bad in the prison service. You can hide from the evidence or ask why and what will be done about it.

We will just have to agree to differ on this subject. You are within your rights to state that some of what are termed as "The Underclass" are victims of political decision making in the same way that I have the right to state the very same people are fully accepting of the fact that criminality is an accepted way of life in their community.

 

[yorkie]

Knifeman jailed for terrifying York shop robbery in front of small child

A knifeman who carried out a terrifying robbery in a convenience store and a night-time raid on a sleeping couple’s home has been jailed.

www.yorkpress.co.uk

A knifeman who carried out a terrifying robbery in a convenience store and a night-time raid on a sleeping couple’s home has been jailed.

Callum Thomas Vardy, formerly known as Callum Tooley, yelled “Give me the money or I will …… stab you” at a petrified shop assistant, said Dan Cordey, prosecuting.


As a small child watched, he held the knife against the employee’s stomach in the Co-op's Beckfield Lane store in Acomb.

I see the thug Callum Tooley has re-branded himself Callum Vardy and has continued his violent acts.

Whatever name he goes by, he is, and always will be, a scumbag who should not be let out.

Of course the system (as endorsed by apologists for violent offenders) will ensure there is a constant stream of victims in the future...

 

[LowLevel]

Clearly a defect and a risk to others, just euthanise him and be done with it.

 

[Intercity110]

I believe criminals like that should be banned from changing their names- adam grahame beoming a transgender and going to a woman’s prison, fore example.

 

[duncanp]

I believe criminals like that should be banned from changing their names- adam grahame beoming a transgender and going to a woman’s prison, fore example.

I do think it is far too easy for people to change their name.

People convicted of sexual offences sometimes change their name in order to hide their past.

Then there is the fraud where people look up the owner of a house at the land registry, change their name to that person, get a passport in that person's name, and then try and sell the house whilst pretending to be the real owner. This works when the house is being rented out and the real owner is hard to trace.

 

[AlterEgo]

I believe criminals like that should be banned from changing their names- adam grahame beoming a transgender and going to a woman’s prison, fore example.

You can’t ban people from changing their gender. That’s a right everyone has, and everyone has the right to use a name they feel fits them best. In the case you describe, the person’s previous name and gender (and their history) was very widely reported.

A register of official name changes is probably a better fix for this problem.

 

[duncanp]

You can’t ban people from changing their gender. That’s a right everyone has, and everyone has the right to use a name they feel fits them best. In the case you describe, the person’s previous name and gender (and their history) was very widely reported.

A register of official name changes is probably a better fix for this problem.

I am not sure that anyone has an absolute right to change their gender or their name.

Sometimes people can do one or both of these things in order to conceal their identity in the case of someone convicted of a crime, or for fraudulent purposes.

So if someone is convicted of an offence, the court should have the power to ban them from changing their gender or their name. If the person does not like that, they should have thought about that before they committed the offence for which they have been convicted.

An official register of name changes would help to comat fraud, as in the case of people changing their name in order to pretend to be the owner of a house and try to sell it.

 

[Intercity110]

A register of official name changes is probably a better fix for this problem.

will this be like other registers, such as the electoral, where it’s difficult to even find out how get it, or will they just be on some website somewhere?

 

[AlterEgo]

I am not sure that anyone has an absolute right to change their gender or their name.

Of course they do. Most women change their name at least once in their lives, sometimes several.

Sometimes people can do one or both of these things in order to conceal their identity in the case of someone convicted of a crime, or for fraudulent purposes.

Yes, and people can do lots of other things which are completely benign and normal but which they then use to commit a crime. Like buy property, take out shares, have children, volunteer, get married, etc etc. Changing your name isn't concealing your identity, and neither is changing your gender.

So if someone is convicted of an offence, the court should have the power to ban them from changing their gender or their name.

You want to ban people from changing their gender - and by extension, access healthcare - if they have committed a criminal offence? OK.

If the person does not like that, they should have thought about that before they committed the offence for which they have been convicted.

I can't see that this is a very sensible or developed argument - "don't do the crime if you can't do the time" is the clarion call of the authoritarian state and not a rational or coherent defence to, let's say, banning someone from legally changing their gender.

An official register of name changes would help to comat fraud, as in the case of people changing their name in order to pretend to be the owner of a house and try to sell it.

...and it would help link criminals to their previous names when reporting on them. Isla Bryson's a rapist who committed their crimes when a male, under the name of Adam Graham. So?

will this be like other registers, such as the electoral, where it’s difficult to even find out how get it, or will they just be on some website somewhere?

Why not make it accessible in the same way most name changes are done - at the GRO? Most name changes occur when people get married.

 

[alex397]

I can understand your anger. I was angered (and became a bit obsessed) about the 2019 attack in Canterbury. A group of locally born and bred thugs (not foreign as some of the locals here like to blame crime on) attacked a German foreign exchange student, stamping on his skull and using a bag of bricks. He has been left permanently disabled, with no form of compensation to fund his recovery (Canterbury locals have had to fundraise for him).

Many of those involved have already served their ‘sentence’ and are back out in Canterbury again. Two of the main culprits got 6 years, but it was a large gang involved who either were never caught or have served pitiful sentences. No remorse has been shown by any of them or their scummy families, and have continued to antagonise locals with comments on social media.

One of those involved is a very well known name, who was banned from Canterbury city centre following the attack, but still visited anyway, and was involved in another fight so went to a young offenders institute. He is now back out, and I’ve seen him around the city which is concerning.

It seems the gang related crime in Canterbury that actually gets dealt with is just the tip of the iceberg. Certainly a lot more happens here than the picture-perfect postcards of the city.

While I don’t think we should ‘lock them up and throw away the key’ or bring back the death penalty (not just for the moral issues but also the huge cost of it), I really cannot believe how lenient the courts can be for serious crime, and for offenders with a long list of previous convictions (and that’s just for the things they were caught for).

Leaving someone permanently disabled (and a visitor too) should have got a lot more than 6 years (and will it even be 6 years? It seems they always get let out early for reasons I still can’t understand). But I also believe in education and reform - surely the education aspect is lacking when so many criminals end up reoffending and with a long list of convictions.
There is also the issue about compensation for victims. Maybe there would issues with this that I might not be aware of but I feel that those involved should have to help fund victim’s costs rather than forcing the victim to use their savings or rely on charitable donations. The fact we didn’t help a foreign victim doesn’t really do much for international relations either.

This article is about the two main culprits.

Thugs behind bars for leaving teen brain-damaged in gang attack

Two teenagers have been sentenced for their part in a vicious gang attack which left a young student severely brain-damaged.

www.kentonline.co.uk

Two teenage thugs have together been sentenced to more than 12 years behind bars for leaving a German student brain-damagedin a vicious gang attack.
Jack Barron smashed Daniel Ezzedine in the face with a bag likely loaded with bricks, while Luke Fogarolli took a running stamp on the 17-year-old's head.

Daniel Ezzedine suffered brain damage in the attack
Barron, 17, has now been sentenced to six years in a young offenders' institute, and Fogarolli six-and-a-half years - including 12 months for a separate matter of dealing Class A drugs.
During a trial last year, Canterbury Crown Court was told Daniel suffered an “earthquake” of skull fractures during the attack in Canterbury city centre, resulting in a life-limiting brain injury.

Judge Simon James today told the duo Mr Ezzedine is “unlikely to recover” after their attack brought “shame on the city”.
“International visitors have been welcomed to Canterbury for hundreds of years," he said.
“Daniel Ezzedine was a young man with his whole life ahead of him.
“He, together with other classmates from his school in Germany, came to England to experience a different culture, and to Canterbury to explore our city’s rich historical heritage.
“He left, not with the expected life-enhancing experience, but with a life-threatening and life-changing brain injury, from which he is unlikely to recover.”

Jack Barron Pic: Kent Police
Daniel was given just a 30% chance of survival, but despite beating the odds had to have part of his brain removed.

The tragedy unfolded after the German teenager's group, who had just finished their exams, unwittingly wandered into the Canterbury gang’s cross-hairs during a trip to KFC.
Taking umbrage with the foreigners, the gang began jeering at the Germans before a 15-year-old ramped up the friction by barging into one of them.
The stage had been set for an “evil” series of events that would leave Daniel fighting for his life.
Two days later the gang hunted down the German students before a melee erupted in Rose Lane, where the fight turned disastrous.

Daniel tried to head-kick one gang member but was pulled to the ground.
However, when he tried getting to his feet, Barron swung his bag with such force into his right cheekbone it forced his head to hit his left shoulder.

As Daniel laid down helplessly, Fogarolli took a running kick at his head before the group fled into Beer Cart Lane.

Luke Fogorolli Pic: Kent Police
Judge James told the duo: "It was a physical confrontation that was engineered by you and your group and which some had prepared for by arming themselves, with you Barron, placing a heavy object object - most likely a brick - in your small shoulder bag.
"During that violent disorder, you, Barron, struck Daniel Ezzedine around the head with the weapon you created, knocking him unconscious and then, as he lay prone and defenceless on the floor, you, Luke Fogarolli, ran up and kicked him in the head, in what was a wholly gratuitous act."
He added the pre-planned "racially aggravated" attack will likely limit Daniel's life-expectancy.
Barron is considered a high risk of harm to the public in a conflict situation, while Fogarolli poses a high risk of causing serious harm to the public, the judge added.
Both remained emotionless in the dock as their lawyers argued their case.
Matthew Pardoe, for Fogarolli, said the kick was unplanned after his client became “caught up in the moment”.
Fogarolli was immature for his age, “prone to follow” his peers and the assault did not cause the lion’s share of Daniel’s injuries, the lawyer argued.

Jack Barron (left) and Luke Fogarolli, with his coat over his head, leave court after the jury's verdicts
Mr Pardoe added the attack was not sustained or racially motivated and handed Judge James a letter from his client.
“His Honour, I know what happened on the day was not acceptable, I’m fully responsible for my part of the incident which occurred," he wrote.
Fogarolli went on to apologise to his own family for his part in the attack, adding: “I hope I can be forgiven.”
Mr Pardoe explained his client self-medicated with cocaine after the attack, for which he feels “remorse.”
Mr Ross read a letter to the judge on Barron's behalf: "I have brought shame to my family and town, from which I have had to move away from."
He also wrote of the "trauma I have inflicted upon Daniel and his family".
A letter from his father read: "Myself and my wife were horrified. Jack had never been in trouble previously. Myself and my wife have both been abused by people in the town, from which we have moved."
Mr Ross added Barron had not been racist, was immature for age, had problems articulating after a limited education and was not the gang's ringleader.

"There was a reference from his employer describing him as polite and punctual," he added.
"This is one of those awful cases and your honour has an awful task. But Jack Barron is more than just that awful thing he did," the lawyer continued.
But Judge James said if the pair were adults and convicted at trial they would have been jailed for 12 years.
Both were convicted at Canterbury Crown Court of causing grievous bodily harm with intent following a trial last year.
The judge lifted reporting restrictions identifying Barron, of Longbury Drive, Orpington, in south-east London before sentencing him to six years in a young offenders' institute.
Fogarolli, of Sturry Road, Canterbury, was found guilty of the same charge alongside violent disorder.
He was also sentenced for a separate incident relating to possessing drugs with intent to supply and possession of an offensive weapon.
He was sentenced to a total of six-and-a-half years in a young offenders' institute.
Detective Inspector Ross Gurden said after sentencing: "There can be no doubt of the part that was played by these two offenders in an assault which led to a teenager being left with life-changing injuries.
"They may have run from the scene after the attack on that fateful day, but ultimately they will never be able to escape the consequences of their actions and I am pleased the court recognised the severity of their crimes."
Eight remaining suspects are due to appear in court at a later date.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

A register of official name changes is probably a better fix for this problem.

Does such a thing not exist already? My understanding of name changes by deed poll is that a record is kept and if that person is (for example) on the sex offenders register then the police would be notified.

This might make them harder for ordinary civilians to Google, but it won't wipe their record clean.

As an aside, I'm curious as whether there has been many studies into the relationship between changing one's name (outside of marriage or gender reassignment) and severe mental illness- particularly conditions which can manifest in aggressive or violent ways. Without giving too much away, when you work in the mental health sector you tend to notice these trends. Of course we all know that correlation doesn't necessarily equal causation, but it's a pattern that stands out somewhat.

 

[Fleetmaster]

Depressing to see a judge talking such utter bollocks.

Under-18s cannot usually be named in court proceedings but The Press is able to name Tooley today after a judge lifted reporting restrictions at the newspaper’s request, on the grounds the public needed to know who he is.

Other helping them to beat him up or potentially killing him, what exactly are the public going to need this information for?

As we know, vigilantes aren't the brightest tools in the book, so there's a chance this moron of a judge just made sure that someone connected to this bloke, perhaps an innocent younger sibling, catches a stray bullet. Or some bloke with the same name gets a beating.

The judge gave him a 20-month detention and training order. Because of his age, the maximum sentence for Tooley’s latest crimes was two years minus a discount for pleading guilty.

He was given a four-month detention and training order for the Knavesmire attack.

And what pray tell are you training him for, exactly?

This kid's never getting a job in his life now, not when his crimes are the top result of a Google search for his name (and again, this really sucks for people with the same name).

And let's get real. For a lad to be this bad this young, being publicly named as a bad ass by a Judge, probably has the exact opposite effect of shaming him.

Had an exam on this this week! Of course youth sentences are going to be less hardline than the adult ones but once he is over 18 and he recommits (if he does) IIRC all of his crimes even as a child are considered when sentencing, so it won't be so nice and fluffy then. The six aims of adult sentencing are rehabilitation, retribution, reparation, incapacitation, denunciation and deterrence. All six have their supporters and opponents, it just depends on how you view society and politics as a whole.

Oh, and for the matter, I'd never in a million years support the death penalty. I'd much rather any, for example, mass murderers suffered for years in prison.

It disturbs me that someone taking exams on criminal justice is apparently an advocate of extreme torture.

 

[AlterEgo]

Does such a thing not exist already? My understanding of name changes by deed poll is that a record is kept and if that person is (for example) on the sex offenders register then the police would be notified.

No, there is no register of name changes at all.

A deed poll is simply a document you use to inform people like your bank, the passport office, etc of your name change.

Many people don’t even use a deed poll and change their name informally by asking people to call them a new name, too.

 

[D365]

Clearly a defect and a risk to others, just euthanise him and be done with it.

At the risk of derailing this thread... the easy way out.