Who owns 'dumped' freight stock

[northernrail]

Not seen anything on here of Manchester Ship Canal Loco 4001,

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=Ma...0&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:85&tx=15&ty=71

Dumped at the back of Winfields store, Haslingden......no idea how it got there, only looks fit for scrap now

 

[466.networkers]

There's a rusty wagon or 2 in the now disused Queenborough sidings near Queenborough on the Sheerness Line ... wonder how long they've been there ...

 

[MCW]

Not seen anything on here of Manchester Ship Canal Loco 4001,

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=Ma...0&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:85&tx=15&ty=71

Dumped at the back of Winfields store, Haslingden......no idea how it got there, only looks fit for scrap now

I have seen far worse than that....

anyway,

I think especially if there are any MGR or older style coal hoppers still laying about they should encourage preservationists to buy them. I only say that because, as we would expect, more diesels are being preserved nowadays and to be honest we need some more slightly modern freight stock to run with them for demo trains at some lines. It is a bit odd seeing a RfD diesel pulling some older stock. (admittedly though could be argued lots of older stack was still departmental up until the 90's)

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Not seen anything on here of Manchester Ship Canal Loco 4001,

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=Ma...0&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:85&tx=15&ty=71

Dumped at the back of Winfields store, Haslingden......no idea how it got there, only looks fit for scrap now

I note that this locomotive appears to be on trackwork. There is a note with the image in the link to say the sister locomotive (4002) is preserved local to this. That other engine is on the East Lancashire Railway and perhaps parts from the locomotive in the picture could be used on the other locomotive.

I am sure that this locomotive is known amongst railway presevationists in the area.

 

[LE Greys]

Last year, I started off a similar thread to this, which ended up with over 100 postings, some with photographs, from all over Britain. The redundant stock that I referred to were two hopper waggons in old sidings in-between Bolton and Moses Gate, that someone said were full of ballast but the ballast had been allowed to be dropped under these waggons years ago. Someone in a post sent a photo in of a 1920's oil (?) tanker that would have made a great exhibit for the National Railway Museum.

Is that the oddity sitting on an old headshunt in Doncaster West Yard?

There's another oddity, some sort of test train by the junction for Leith. It may be an old overhead wiring train from when they electrified the line, but it hasn't moved in the last eight years.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

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At Doncaster (on the southern approach) there is also a very very old black BP tank wagon - it looks pre-war to me, possibly even 1920s! Rivetted pannel construction - very very antiquated.

This is an abstract of the part of a quite long posting that refers to the old BP tank waggon in question.

 

[LE Greys]

This is an abstract of the part of a quite long posting that refers to the old BP tank waggon in question.

Aha, right. I've often wondered what that was doing there and how long it had been sitting there. It almost seems as though BP put it there for advertising purposes, it is in a rather porminent positon after all, but never got round to removing it.

Separately, this is the other one, actually found just east of Craigentinny. It appears to be made up of MkIs with the windows plated over, and I reckon it was either a test train or the 1980s version of the HOOP. It should be visible from the A199, and certainly from the ECML.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=55.947175,-3.105099&spn=0.000871,0.002642&t=h&z=19

 

[90019]

Separately, this is the other one, actually found just east of Craigentinny. It appears to be made up of MkIs with the windows plated over, and I reckon it was either a test train or the 1980s version of the HOOP. It should be visible from the A199, and certainly from the ECML.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=55.947175,-3.105099&spn=0.000871,0.002642&t=h&z=19

I've got a photo of that somewhere, taken a couple of years back.
I don't think you can see it from the road, due to the high sides of the bridge, but part of it is visible from the car park in the industrial estate.

 

[sprinterguy]

Separately, this is the other one, actually found just east of Craigentinny. It appears to be made up of MkIs with the windows plated over, and I reckon it was either a test train or the 1980s version of the HOOP. It should be visible from the A199, and certainly from the ECML.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=55.947175,-3.105099&spn=0.000871,0.002642&t=h&z=19

You are pretty much correct: The stored rake of Olive Green former mark 1 vehicles in Portobello sidings is the former ECML Overhead Line Maintenance Train, converted from mark 1 passenger stock at the time of the ECML electrification AFAIK. They may also have well been deployed during wiring activities, and certainly when the wires first went "live". The vehicles stored at Portobello comprise:

975681 - OHLM Pantograph coach
975682 - OHLM Pantograph coach
975685 - OHLM Generator & Stores coach
975686 - OHLM Stores coach
975687 - OHLM Stores and roof access coach
975688 - OHLM Office & staff coach

If you scroll down, this page provides a number of details of the individual Overhead Line Maintenance vehicles, by clicking on the relevant links: http://www.departmentals.com/photos.php?cat=975

Here's a couple of the Portobello vehicles:
http://www.departmentals.com/photo/975682
http://www.departmentals.com/photo/975686-1

As you will notice, there used to be many, many more converted vehicles dedicated to this task at one time in the past. This post from that website details the in-service formation of the former Portobello OHL Maintenance train that remains stored there to this day:

...back in the day each OHLM depot ran a six car formation (plus one or two cable drum wagons)

The scottish set allocated to Portobello had

975 681 pantograph coach

975 685 stores and generator

975 686 stores

975 687 stores and roof access

975 688 staff office

975 920 cable drum carrier

 

[fraser158]

The ballast hopper that was lying in the refuse siding at Dingwall was removed a while ago when Network Rail had some sort of RRV (if that's the correct term) stabled there with some ballast wagons.

 

[Aictos]

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And at Doncaster (on the southern approach) there is also a very very old black BP tank wagon - it looks pre-war to me, possibly even 1920s! Rivetted pannel construction - very very antiquated.

I'm sure that tank wagon is still used for fuelling purposes though?

 

[Drsatan]

In 2006 I noticed that there was a Dogfish ballast wagon parked in the headshunt at Ryde St Johns station on the Isle of Wight. Presumably, it was used prior to the mid 1990s when maintenance trains worked by a class 03 shunter (and before that, an ex Parkeston Quay class 05) were used for track maintenance as opposed to road-rail vehicles.

Could anyone confirm whether that wagon is still in situ? If it is, who owns it? Network Rail or Stagecoach?

 

[DXMachina]

Re Sprinterguys post - and going off topic - the Departmentals page includes a photo of 975089 & 975090 - Laboratory 5 TRIM Unit on the circle line platforms, underground, at Baker Street

Possibly the only time a BR DMU has gone onto the subterranean LU network? Would love to know how far it got.

http://www.departmentals.com/photo/975089975090-2

 

[LE Greys]

Re Sprinterguys post - and going off topic - the Departmentals page includes a photo of 975089 & 975090 - Laboratory 5 TRIM Unit on the circle line platforms, underground, at Baker Street

Possibly the only time a BR DMU has gone onto the subterranean LU network? Would love to know how far it got.

http://www.departmentals.com/photo/975089975090-2

I love the people waiting on the platforms nonchalent as you like, as if blue and red DMUs ran through there every day. I'd have been going "What the..." hock: