WMTrains livery and station branding

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350108 has been vinyled in an anti-trespass livery. credit to Kris Nelson on FB
Oh, I knew someone would beat me to it!
I love how they’ve pulled a GWR and not bothered vinyling the rest of the train into LNR livery...
Indeed.

It's quite an unusual livery really. It's a bit of variety so I shall be looking out for it!
 
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As long as the set number is visible for staff to identify it. Individual vehicle numbers are also inside each vehicle. As long as staff working on the unit are able to identify the relevant unit/vehicle as & when required that’s ok.
 

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Have any more 196s been delivered? 196101 was tested last year but have not heard anything since.
 

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Any 196 deliveries are not going to Tyseley, but are going to Donnington RFT by road for storage .

All training and use of 196's AFAIK is currently suspended due to a major issue with the units. None of the one's at Tyseley have actually completed the obligatory fault free running. That doesn't bode well at present.

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Any 196 deliveries are not going to Tyseley, but are going to Donnington RFT by road for storage .

All training and use of 196's AFAIK is currently suspended due to a major issue with the units. None of the one's at Tyseley have actually completed the obligatory fault free running. That doesn't bode well at present.

Mark
196's where out testing last week.
 

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Any 196 deliveries are not going to Tyseley, but are going to Donnington RFT by road for storage .

All training and use of 196's AFAIK is currently suspended due to a major issue with the units. None of the one's at Tyseley have actually completed the obligatory fault free running. That doesn't bode well at present.

Mark
Especially considering some of the 170s have already been released to EMR and the 153s are now in warm storage - the revised Covid timetable must be a God send for WMR as they require less units in daily service
 

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Especially considering some of the 170s have already been released to EMR and the 153s are now in warm storage - the revised Covid timetable must be a God send for WMR as they require less units in daily service

Think I've seen internally that some of the 170s could return for WMR service whilst in EMR livery at some point.
 

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Think I've seen internally that some of the 170s could return for WMR service whilst in EMR livery at some point.
Now that would be an interesting site to see! Sounds like a similar situation to when TPE’s 350s were vinyled into LNR livery due to transfer delays
 

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interesting

full credit given. unit unknown, you've got a 1 in 2 guess I suppose
 

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interesting

full credit given. unit unknown, you've got a 1 in 2 guess I suppose
Presumably this is for social distancing? It's weird to see how adaptable the 139 layout it but it's got to be a plus I suppose. Hopefully it won't last beyond social distancing measures but we never know.
 

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If Stratford-upon-Avon is a heritage station then so are nearly half of the stations in the country. Unless they mean that it is a station in a heritage town.

2019 Heritage entrance and booking hall!!!!!

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I would imagine its because Stratford gets a lot of tourism from its history and a certain famous writer.
 

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Not sure if it’s been mentioned on here given that it’s not a WMR-managed station, but Solihull has station signs that are jointly branded between Chiltern Railways and WMR.
 

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Not sure if it’s been mentioned on here given that it’s not a WMR-managed station, but Solihull has station signs that are jointly branded between Chiltern Railways and WMR.

It is in the updated style of Chiltern Railways with additional WMR branding in the bottom left hand corner
 

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It is in the updated style of Chiltern Railways with additional WMR branding in the bottom left hand corner
You have to ask why this sort of nonsense is being persisted with given that franchising is dead. Should be using the new Rail Alphabet* and NR-defined signage guidelines.

* Personally I'd rather we went back to original Rail Alphabet, with black lettering on a white background, because it was readable.
 

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You have to ask why this sort of nonsense is being persisted with given that franchising is dead. Should be using the new Rail Alphabet* and NR-defined signage guidelines.

* Personally I'd rather we went back to original Rail Alphabet, with black lettering on a white background, because it was readable.

Franchising as we know it may be dead*, but that certainly doesn't mean a rolling back to a monolothic super-standardised railway either. "Regional identity" still looks set to play a role, so if it was going to be anything it should have been in full WMR orange
 

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the signs at Solihull have been there since the end of 2019, when franchising was still alive
 

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I have a couple of questions.

Why didn't LNWR relivery all of their /2s? I know they are being replaced soon but why did they bother doing any at all?

Thanks :)
 
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Just a gentle reminder that this thread is for the discussion of Wmtrains livery and station branding.

If anyone wants to discuss anything else such as Class 350 operations or what trains should operate on the Abbey Line then they are welcome to start a new thread elsewhere (or find a suitable existing one).

Thanks :)
 

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I have a couple of questions.

Why didn't LNWR relivery all of their /2s? I know they are being replaced soon but why did they bother doing any at all?

Thanks :)
The same reason most franchises treat their outgoing stock. To remove the old branding in an affordable way to avoid putting the full branding on
 

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Updated list of all the WMR/LNWR branded trains/stations (as of 11/3/21).

Stations - WMR
WCML Rugby-Birmingham-Stafford-Stoke Loop (COV-SNE, exc. COV, BHM & BHI)
All WMT-operated stations between Rugby (exc.) & Stoke-on-Trent (exc.) are in WMR orange & grey, with the exception of Penkridge (with old-style LMS lampposts).
>Canley, Tile Hill, Berkswell, Hampton-in-Arden, Marston Green, Lea Hall: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Stechford: Network WM running boards, LM/WMR signage mix.
>Adderley Park: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Smethwick Rolfe Street: WMR running boards/signage.
>Smethwick Galton Bridge: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers) on both levels.
>Sandwell & Dudley: WMR running boards/signage.

>Dudley Port: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Tipton: WMR running boards/signage.
>Coseley: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>(City of) Wolverhampton: WMR running boards/signage.
>Penkridge: WMR running boards/signage.
>Stone: WMR running boards/signage.


Wolverhampton-Shrewsbury Line
All stations between Wolverhampton (exc.) & Shrewsbury (exc.) have old-style GWR lampposts, except Telford Central (which has WMR orange/grey). All also have WMR running boards - these have no additional transfers unless mentioned.
>Bilbrook, Codsall, Albrighton, Cosford, Shifnal: WMR signage.
>Telford Central: WMR running boards with "Ironbridge Gorge" transfers, LM signage.
>Oakengates: WMR signage.
>Wellington: WMR running boards with "Gateway to the Wrekin" transfers, WMR signage.


Cross-City Line (LTV-BMV/RDC, exc. BHM)
Unless stated otherwise, all stations on the Cross-City Line have full orange/grey lampposts.
>Lichfield Trent Valley (High Level): LNWR running boards, WMR signage.
>Lichfield City: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Birthplace of Samuel Johnson" transfers).
>Shenstone, Blake Street: WMR running boards/signage.

>Butlers Lane: Network WM running boards, LM/WMR signage mix. Platform Number markers on P2 are still LM.
>Four Oaks: WMR running boards/signage.
>(Royal Town of) Sutton Coldfield: WMR running boards/signage.
Platform number markers on lampposts are still LM.
>Wylde Green: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts (not throughout; 1 lamppost at the Lichfield end is only half painted). Station sign over bridge still NWM.
>Chester Road: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Boldmere" transfers).
>Erdington: WMR running boards/signage.
>Gravelly Hill: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Home of Spaghetti Junction" transfers).
(P2 Way Out Sign is still LM)
>Aston: WMR running boards/signage (inc. AVFC transfers).
>Duddeston: WMR running boards/signage.
>Five Ways: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Broad Street" transfers).
>University: Partial WMR running boards/full WMR signage (inc. "for Queen Elizabeth Hospital and University of Birmingham" transfers). Running boards under P1 canopies are still NWM.
>Selly Oak: WMR running boards
, LM/WMR signage mix.
>Bournville: WMR running boards/signage (inc. Stirchley/Cadbury World transfers), Purple "Cadbury" lampposts.
>Kings Norton: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Cotteridge" transfers).
>Northfield: WMR running boards/signage..
>Longbridge: WMR running boards/signage.
>Barnt Green: WMR running boards/signage (inc. Lickey Hills Country Park transfers).
>Alvechurch: WMR running boards/signage.
>Redditch: WMR running boards, WMR signage.
>Bromsgrove: WMR running boards, WMR/non-std signage mix.


Snow Hill Lines (Dorridge/Stratford-u-A - Ledbury via Snow Hill & Worcester)
Unless stated otherwise, all WMT-operated stations from Stratford-upon-Avon to Earlswood (exc. Stratford Pkwy) have WMR running boards/signage with old-style GWR lampposts, and all stations from Wythall to Spring Road have Network WM Signs and the same lampposts.
Unless otherwise mentioned, all WMT-operated stations from Widney Manor to Worcester (inc. Stourbridge Town) have orange/grey lampposts; Widney Manor, Olton & Acocks Green also have WMR signs/signage.

>Stratford-upon-Avon: LM "Olympic Gold" running boards, LM signage (TBC).
>Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts.
>Wilmcote: WMR running boards/signage (inc. Mary Arden's Farm transfers).
>Wootton Wawen, Henley-in-Arden, Danzey, Wood End, The Lakes, Earlswood: WMR running boards/signage.
>Wythall: WMR running boards, WMR signage
(AFAIK).
>Whitlocks End: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Dickens Heath" transfers).
>Shirley, Yardley Wood: WMR running boards/signage.
>Widney Manor, Olton, Acocks Green: WMR running boards/signage.

>Hall Green: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Spring Road: WMR running boards/signage.
>Tyseley: WMR running boards/signage; depot has orange/grey lampposts. Running board font different to the rest.

>Small Heath: Network WM running boards, WMR signage, unpainted lampposts.
>Bordesley: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Birmingham Snow Hill: WMR running boards/signage.
>Jewellery Quarter: WMR running boards/signage.
>The Hawthorns: WMR running boards (inc. West Bromwich Albion transfers)
, LM/WMR signage mix.
>Langley Green: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Oldbury" transfers).
>Rowley Regis: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Blackheath" transfers).
>Old Hill: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Haden Hill" transfers).
>Cradley Heath: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Merry Hill Shopping Centre" transfers).
>Lye: WMR running boards/signage.
>Stourbridge Junction: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Change Here for Stourbridge Town" transfers) (P1/2);
P3 has WMR signage & Network WM running boards.
(>Stourbridge Town: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.)
>Hagley, Blakedown: WMR running boards/signage.
>Kidderminster: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "for Severn Valley Railway" transfers).
Still has at least one "Olympic Gold" Network WM running board.
>Hartlebury, Droitwich Spa, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street: WMR running boards/signage. (Shrub Hill still has a couple of LM black/green running boards)
>Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury: WMR running boards/signage, old-style GWR lampposts (inc. "Cotswolds & Malverns Line" transfers).

Chase Line (Aston (exc.) - Walsall - Rugeley TV (exc.))
All WMT-operated stations between Aston (exc.) & Rugeley Trent Valley (exc.) are in WMR orange & grey.
>Witton: WMR running boards/signage, plus new PIS screens.
>Perry Barr, Hamstead: WMR running boards/signage.
>Tame Bridge Parkway, Bescot Stadium: WMR running boards/signage (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers).
>Walsall, Bloxwich, Bloxwich North, Landywood, Cannock: WMR running boards/signage.

>Hednesford: Network WM running boards, WMR signage.
>Rugeley Town: WMR running boards/signage.


NUCKLE - Nuneaton/Coventry/Kenilworth/Leamington Spa
>Kenilworth: WMR running boards/signage, unpainted lampposts with orange bands.
>Coventry Arena: WMR running boards, LM/WMR signage mix, orange/grey lampposts.
>Bedworth, Bermuda Park: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts.


Others
>Water Orton, Wilnecote: WMR running boards/signage, orange/grey lampposts.
>Coleshill Parkway: LM running boards, WMR signage, unpainted posts with WMR orange shelter.
>Claverdon: WMR running boards, partial WMR signage, some LM signage, old-style GWR lampposts.
>Bearley: WMR running boards/signage, old-style GWR lampposts.

Trains - WMR
Class 139 - both in FINAL WMR livery
139001: (un)refurbished
139002: (un)refurbished

Class 170/5 (2-cars, due to leave the franchise) - all in WMR "outgoing" livery
Class 170/6 (former 3-cars, due to leave the franchise) - all in WMR "outgoing" livery
170630: centre car removed, renumbered to 170530 - now left for EMR
170631: centre car removed, renumbered to 170531 - now left for EMR

170632: centre car removed (turning 170520 into 170620), renumbered to 170532
170633: centre car removed, renumbered to 170533
170634: centre car removed, renumbered to 170534
170635: centre car removed (turning 170523 into 170623), renumbered to 170535

Class 172/0 (2-cars, ex-London Overground) - [/I]all in FINAL WMR livery, half-refurbished & in service
172001: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172002: refurbished with new interior, toilet, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information Screens.
172003: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172004: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs (TBC).
172005: refurbished with new interior, toilet, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information Screens.
172006: refurbished with new interior, toilet, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information Screens.

172007: refurbished with new interior, toilet & WiFi but no plugs
172008: refurbished with new interior, toilet, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information Screens.

Class 172/2 (2-cars, with gangway) - all in FINAL WMR livery, and refurbished with new interior, WiFi & plugs

Class 172/3 (3-cars, with gangway) - all in FINAL WMR livery
172331: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.
172332: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.

172333: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172334: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172335: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.
172336: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.
172337: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.
172338: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.

172339: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172340: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.
172341: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172342: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.
172343: unrefurbished but with WiFi
172344: refurbished with new interior, WiFi, plugs, new PIS & Information screens.
172345: unrefurbished but with WiFi. Currently at Ilford for refurb AIUI.

Class 323 (due to leave the franchise for Northern) - all in outgoing WMR livery, PRM compliant, and refurbished with new upholstery, WiFi, CCTV & PIS.

Stations - LNWR
WCML
All WMT-managed stations on the WCML have two-tone green/white LNWR lampposts from Watford Jct to Acton Bridge (inclusive). Aside from the stations listed below, all have LNWR running boards/signage; Long Buckby, Northampton, Wolverton, Bletchley, Leighton Buzzard, Berkhamsted, Hemel Hempstead & Watford Junction have "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" on their running boards.

>Long Buckby: LNWR running boards (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers), LM/LNWR signage mix.
>Milton Keynes Central: LNWR running boards/signage (inc. illuminated external running boards).
>Tring: LNWR running boards/signage.
(N.B. One lamppost behind Tring P1 is still in LM green/black AFAIK).
>Watford Junction: LNWR running boards (inc. "Direct Trains to Birmingham International" transfers; except large illuminated ones - those are still LM), LNWR signage.

Abbey Line - all have LNWR running boards, signage & two-tone green lampposts.

Marston Vale Line - all have LNWR "Marston Vale" running boards & signage.

>Fenny Stratford, Bow Brickhill (for Caldecotte and Tilbrook), Woburn Sands: LNWR two-tone green lampposts.
>Aspley Guise: LNWR two-tone green lampposts (eastbound), unpainted galvanised steel lampposts (westbound).
>Ridgmont, Lidlington, Millbrook (Beds), Stewartby (for Kimberley College), Kempston Hardwick, Bedford St. Johns: LNWR two-tone green lampposts.

Trains - LNWR
Class 230 - all refurbished and in full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery

Class 319 (due to leave the franchise upon introduction of Class 730s)

319005: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319012: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319013: LM livery, LNWR branding
319214: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319215: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319216: LM livery, LNWR branding
319217: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319218: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319219: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319220: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319429: LM livery, LNWR branding
319433: LM livery, LNWR branding
319441: LM livery, LNWR branding
319457: LM livery, LNWR branding (with white cab ends)
319460: LM livery, LNWR branding

Class 350/1 - see the dedicated Class 350/1 refurb thread.
Class 350/2 (due to leave the franchise upon introduction of Class 730s)
350231: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350232: LNWR "outgoing" livery.

350233: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350234: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350235: LM livery (with BTP wrap), LNWR branding.
350236-238: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350239: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350240: LNWR "outgoing" livery.

350241-243: LM livery, LNWR branding
350244: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350245: LNWR "outgoing" livery.

350246-251: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350252-254: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350255: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350256: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350257-259: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350260: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350261: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350262: LNWR "outgoing" livery.
350263: LNWR "outgoing" livery.

350264-266: LM livery, LNWR branding.
350267: LNWR "outgoing" livery.

Class 350/3 - all reliveried into full (revised) LNWR livery with 1st Class stripe, along with new plug & USB Sockets, new luggage racks and extra PIS Info screens
350368: Full LNWR livery with "Resorts World Birmingham" advertising branding.
350369: Full LNWR livery with "Edgbaston Cricket Ground" advertising branding.
350370: Full LNWR livery with "Cadbury World" advertising branding.
350371: Full LNWR livery with "Birmingham Airport" advertising branding.
350372: Full LNWR livery with "Visit Liverpool" advertising branding.
350373: Full LNWR livery with "Birmingham Hippodrome" advertising branding.
350374: Full LNWR livery with "Liverpool Airport" advertising branding.
350375: Full LNWR livery with "Madame Tussauds" advertising branding.
350376: Full LNWR livery with "Wizarding World of Harry Potter" advertising branding.
350377: Full LNWR livery with "RSC: Visit Stratford upon Avon" advertising branding.

Class 350/4 - all now with LNWR, and all refurbed. All units are in full (revised) LNWR livery with 1st Class stripe & large unit no's.
 
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Updated list of all the WMR/LNWR branded trains/stations (as of 11/3/21).



Class 350/1 - see the dedicated Class 350/1 refurb thread.
There doesn't appear to be a list on that thread.

I have my own general 350 refurb thread for all units, with an up to date /1 status list on the link below to add to your list if youd like! :D

 

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