XC HST Split - Lawrence Hill (Bristol) - 31/10/16

[wensley]

43185 being the high profile in swallow livery!

And 37254!

 

[jamieP]

How on earth do you do a "pull-away test" with unmotored stock?

Would use the loco attached to the coaches.

 

[voyagerdude220]

It is, during the Bromsgrove closure the attachment comes off 1M41 1007 ex Paignton which terminates at Bristol Temple Meads. The reason why the Dundee is a 221/220 and not a 220x2 during the closure is because it now formed by the 0828 from Penzance because of the extended journey time associated with going via Kidderminster, this train is booked a 221 (normally through to Glasgow).

Thank you, that makes sense.

 

[QueensCurve]

Works here, thanks!

Is that a Bardic I spy playing tail-lamp?

Not wishing to speculate, but one of the pictures of the buckeye makes it look pristine with no obvious sign of failure.

 

[AndyPJG]

Perhaps it was the other half?

 

[QueensCurve]

Perhaps it was the other half?

As suggested by an earlier post.

They'll have a job recovering it to Phillips Marsh just yet, the power car is missing a coupler at the rear end! The plan at present is to reunite it with the rest of the set eventually though.

 

[PHILIPE]

Perhaps the PC at Bristol Parkway can move under it's own power. There's no problem working a PC on it's own, after all it got there from the point of slipping
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I suppose there is a chance that the split may have done some damage to the pipes on the back of the power car so it'll be a bit more complex to get it shifted.




Are there XC facilities in Bristol? If not might GWR lend a helping hand to get it shifted?

GWR staff from PM attended to the train at site.

 

[najaB]

Perhaps the PC at Bristol Parkway can move under it's own power. There's no problem working a PC on it's own, after all it got there from the point of slipping.

I think the problem is that it's facing the wrong way.

 

[fgwrich]

I think the problem is that it's facing the wrong way.

That is the problem which will have to be solved - at least Bristol isn't short of triangles to turn it on.

It Has been suggested elsewhere that there has been a failure of the Buckeye Pin. HST PC will no doubt have to have some attention to the multi cables - such things don't appreciate being ripped out!

 

[mikestone1952]

Watching the movements on the map gave the impression the train was emptied before movement, 1S51 standing a considerable time outside TM (although this may have been congestion with trains that couldn't go) and a southbound train standing alongside 0S51 at Stapleton Road.

 

[Harbornite]

When HST coaches are being coupled, is a pull-away test done at all?

btw, that 08 must be one of the few if not the only item of loco/unit/rolling stock in use in the swallow livery

86213 and some mark 1 coaches are also in this livery.

 

[87015]

86213 and some mark 1 coaches are also in this livery.

86213 isn't, its in Bulmarket branded ETL colours.

 

[Deepgreen]

Eeek hope the driver is okay.

Why wouldn't the driver be OK? It hasn't crashed, blown up, caught fire, etc., it's just come uncoupled.

 

[sprinterguy]

The errant power car, 43357, is being sent to St Philips Marsh later today under it's own power, setting off at about 18:15 and propelling across from Bristol Parkway to Filton West Junction to get it facing the right way to run down to St Philips Marsh.

 

[DaveHarries]

Hi all,

Looking on TyrellCheck, Cross Country have said that their 1S51 12:24 Exeter St Davids to Glasgow Central has divided in the Lawrence Hill area.

1S51 has divided in the Lawrence Hill area.
The front power car will be taken to Bristol Parkway, and the rear power car and passenger coaches to return to Temple Meads.

I hope everyone is ok, I'm guessing it must have been a shock to the passengers and train crew on this train.

The RAIB report for this could make for rather interesting reading.

Dave

 

[43096]

The RAIB report for this could make for rather interesting reading.



Dave

You are assuming that the RAIB will decide it needs investigating. That is not necessarily the case.

 

[windnoise69]

Watching the movements on the map gave the impression the train was emptied before movement, 1S51 standing a considerable time outside TM (although this may have been congestion with trains that couldn't go) and a southbound train standing alongside 0S51 at Stapleton Road.

That would of been 2o90 Great Malvern - Weymouth formed of 150247. I was on that travelling into work and we were at a stand at Stapleton Rd for a good 10 minutes or si

 

[rebmcr]

Why wouldn't the driver be OK? It hasn't crashed, blown up, caught fire, etc., it's just come uncoupled.

Being in charge of a high speed piece of machinery while it is undergoing failure is likely to shake up anyone, nevermind a person who knows more than most do about the things a failure can cause.

 

[richw]

I liked the reason for some cancellations on rtt

 

[43096]

Being in charge of a high speed piece of machinery while it is undergoing failure is likely to shake up anyone, nevermind a person who knows more than most do about the things a failure can cause.

Drama queen....

It wasn't travelling at high speed and the train "failed safe", exactly as it was designed to do.

 

[Lrd]

Drama queen....

It wasn't travelling at high speed and the train "failed safe", exactly as it was designed to do.

If I was driving my train and found out half of it was no longer attached then I wouldn't be best pleased.

 

[Johncleesefan]

Drama queen....

It wasn't travelling at high speed and the train "failed safe", exactly as it was designed to do.

Perhaps you need to apply some human element to the situation as when the driver felt the cold breeze behind him and looked round to see no train he probably had to scratch his head a little

 

[ainsworth74]

If I was driving my train and found out half of it was no longer attached then I wouldn't be best pleased.

Would you give it a stern talking to and tell it to buck up its ideas?

 

[roversfan2001]

Would you give it a stern talking to and tell it to buck up its ideas?

He sent it to the naughty corner in the depot.

 

[AlterEgo]

Would you give it a stern talking to and tell it to buck up its ideas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv0onXhyLlE

 

[najaB]

Would you give it a stern talking to and tell it to buck up its ideas?

I would tell it that it has to pull itself together!

 

[43096]

Perhaps you need to apply some human element to the situation as when the driver felt the cold breeze behind him and looked round to see no train he probably had to scratch his head a little

Perhaps you need to re-read the post I replied to. "Scratch his head a little" - absolutely. "Shake anyone up" - errrr, no.

BTW, what cold breeze? FESW is sat in an air-conditioned cab!

 

[Cowley]

I would tell it that it has to pull itself together!

Don't worry, I noticed how good your joke was NajaB

 

[SpacePhoenix]

How on earth do you do a "pull-away test" with unmotored stock?

Unpowered coaches don't just shunt themselves

As each coach gets joined on, they'd do a pull away test, they'd be using probably an 08 or 09 shunter

It Has been suggested elsewhere that there has been a failure of the Buckeye Pin. HST PC will no doubt have to have some attention to the multi cables - such things don't appreciate being ripped out!

Is the "buckeye pin" the "locking pin" within the coupler? Presumably the cables and pipes on the coach next to the power car will also have to be looked at

They'll have a job recovering it to Phillips Marsh just yet, the power car is missing a coupler at the rear end! The plan at present is to reunite it with the rest of the set eventually though.

Will the coupling be missing as a result of being ripped off or from having possibly been removed for closer examination?

 

[09065]

Would you give it a stern talking to and tell it to buck up its ideas?

I would tell it to buck-EYE up it's ideas....