The Pretendolino thread

[Peter Mugridge]

Problem is, I won't know until the day before if I'll be able to do a trip on it...

 

[SprinterMan]

Problem is, I won't know until the day before if I'll be able to do a trip on it...

It is likely to be fine, so I wouldn't worry about reservations :P

 

[Boothby97]

Do we know when the pretendolino will head back home, reported to have gone up to Kilmarnock Works a couple of weeks ago
Thanks, Sam

 

[pt_mad]

Does this ever run on the WCML proper, through the Trent Valley?

 

[SprinterMan]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks like there will be no cheap advance tickets for the 57 hauled trips on 25th August in an attempt to keep passenger numbers manageable.

Adam

 

[33056]

Just when you thought this thread had gone away

The Pretendolino arrived back at Wembley from Kilmarnock last night behind an un-identified class 57 (5Z41 13:15 Kilmarnock to Wembley TC)

 

[Blindtraveler]

what was she doing/having done up there?

 

[Chester025]

just when you thought this thread had gone away

The pretendolino arrived back at wembley from kilmarnock last night behind an un-identified class 57 (5z41 13:15 kilmarnock to wembley tc)

57304

 

[Peter Mugridge]

what was she doing/having done up there?

Internal refresh, apparently. I hope it's kept the IC70 seats....

 

[Philip Elliott]

"Back in time..."

 

[87015]

"Back in time..."

Believe for this?

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S58836/2013/07/15/advanced
The platforming looks a bit suspect though?!

 

[8J]

I am led to believe that the mods to WB64 included toilet retention tanks and wifi. From videos I saw on youtube, it has retained its IC70 Seats and slam doors.

 

[Nym]

Believe for this?

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S58836/2013/07/15/advanced
The platforming looks a bit suspect though?!

Hmmmm, Since platform 10 is around 180m I'm inclined to agree with you there...

 

[Pumbaa]

Out daily during the Wigan blockade apparently. Involving the 1833 off Euston? Most unusual if true.

 

[8J]

The 18:33 is a Liverpool service isn't it?

 

[matt]

The 18:33 is a Liverpool service isn't it?

Normally it is but next week it is only going as far as Rugby due to engineering works. There has been a notice about it in Rugby station.

 

[87015]

90049 allocated according to my chum who likes such lesser electrics...

 

[capital12]

Does anybody know if the Pretendolino has been out this week at all? The 1833 showed as cancelled on Monday on Real Time Trains and was cancelled yesterday, as was waiting at Euston!

Thanks.

 

[craig87034]

Does anybody know if the Pretendolino has been out this week at all? The 1833 showed as cancelled on Monday on Real Time Trains and was cancelled yesterday, as was waiting at Euston!
Thanks.

Only working this week has been 1803 Euston-birmingham and 2010 Birmingham-Euston on Monday

 

[capital12]

Only working this week has been 1803 Euston-birmingham and 2010 Birmingham-Euston on Monday

Ok, thanks.

 

[Boothby97]

Does anybody know if the Pretendolino has been out this week at all? The 1833 showed as cancelled on Monday on Real Time Trains and was cancelled yesterday, as was waiting at Euston!

Thanks.

I believe the Class 90 failed on Tuesday, that's why it didn't run

 

[capital12]

There were also a lot of delays/cancellations on Tuesday pm peak because of trespass incident at Milton Keynes and signalling problems.

It was cancelled last night as well due 'to an earlier broken down train'! So guess they hadn't fixed it or as they got away with cancelling for a couple of nights already thought they might not bother running!

 

[oversteer]

Pretendolino in use for today's 1833 Euston - Rugby service .. 90047

 

[Tibbs]

Is this the one with the intercity 225 on the front?

If so, I saw it on platform 13 at Euston as I got on the 18:20(ish) LM to Milton Keynes.

A member of train staff got into the cab as I passed.

Since it only has a locomotive at one end, how does it turn around at a place like Euston?

 

[Manchester77]

I think you mean the class 90 as it wouldn't exactly be practical if a 91+mark IVs+DVT were hauling a full train

To be fair the class 90 looks similar and the DVTs do too

 

[sprinterguy]

Since it only has a locomotive at one end, how does it turn around at a place like Euston?

There is a Driving Van Trailer situated at the other end of the train that controls the class 90 loco remotely when running in the opposite direction. Standard practice for all West Coast services for fifteen years until the Pendolinos replaced the loco-hauled stock.

 

[Tibbs]

I think you mean the class 90 as it wouldn't exactly be practical if a 91+mark IVs+DVT were hauling a full train

To be fair the class 90 looks similar and the DVTs do too

Ah ok , I did think it odd since 225s have a locomotive at both ends normally (probably). I don't really know much about trains themselves, I just travel on them!

There is a Driving Van Trailer situated at the other end of the train that controls the class 90 loco remotely when running in the opposite direction. Standard practice for all West Coast services for fifteen years until the Pendolinos replaced the loco-hauled stock.

So it pushes going North rather than pulls? Fascinating!

 

[sprinterguy]

So it pushes going North rather than pulls? Fascinating!

Usually, the locomotive is at the North end, so it pushes when going South generally, but yes, that is correct. The Intercity 225s employ the exact same method of working.

 

[Boothby97]

Ah ok , I did think it odd since 225s have a locomotive at both ends normally (probably). I don't really know much about trains themselves, I just travel on them!

No, IC225s also have a DVT at one end (usually the south end). The DVT in this case though being of the Mark 4 variant

 

[Qwerty133]

VT have tweeted that it should be out today on the 18:03 Euston to new street and 19:50 return. They used the term pretendolino in the tweet so it's now in common use!!