Personally I could not give a shiny poop what is sprayed on the side of my train as long as it turns up and about on time!
Depending on what's on the train, a driver could refuse to run it. If control say otherwise and the driver sticks to his or her guns, it's going nowhere. So it's probably best to keep the trains graffiti free, ideally by protecting the trains when not in use.
Graffiti looks awful but unless it's on the cab window I can't see how a driver refuse.
The best way to combat it is quick removal, if a graffiti merchant puts in a lot of time and effort only to see the train a day or two later and it's been removed they'll wonder why they bothered.
London is going back 15-20 years lately with the increase in violent crimes and Graffiti, It's so strange as we had turned a corner from all these behaviors but now they all seem to be back in Fashion.
And not wanting to be over dramatic, surely there is a security risk if it's so easy for people to get access to the trains at night.
Why aren't depots secure? Surely it must cost a fortune to have to clean trains on a regular basis, not to mention the reduction in available stock when this is happening leading to short units.
And not wanting to be over dramatic, surely there is a security risk if it's so easy for people to get access to the trains at night.
BTP is reintroducing its anti-graffiti team this month, as well as more private security firms at some hotspots.
But when you make the depots and Sidings secure (like TOCs willing to pay have largely done - not Govia, clearly) the taggers just go around. Turnarounds on an ECS in a platform (at another TOCs station, so harder to get them to do something, you can probably guess the owning group), booked waits at signals on running lines, even during station stops is opportunity enough for some. You make it harder, they get cleverer.Good. Clearly certain depots/sidings are more likely to be targeted than others
Brighton is getting private security, if it hasn't already.
I think good graffiti is mostly done by middle class students from the local art college. The better the college, the better the graffiti. Good to see young people out in the fresh air and taking an interest in brightening up their community.
But covering trains with giant tags, however colourful, often with offensive phrases is a world apart. And ordinary tags with a marker pen or etched are even further away again.
Fully agree. I was being slightly tongue in cheek. I was also going to use Brighton as an example.
The origin of modern tagging is very interesting. I guess it's been around since prehistoric times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAKI_183
I agree. Someone remarked to me recently that graffiti tends to surge when a society is in decline. I think they're right. Remember the graffiti on LU in the 1980s?It seems to be a fashion that has sadly returned, I notice squiggles on a bus shelter in Hampstead yesterday and can't remember seeing graffiti there for years
A slightly Brexity friend of mine told me how he was appalled at the amount of graffiti in Italy when he visited recently. I told him about the Roman graffiti I saw at Pompeii. Then showed him a photo of a SE train..Fully agree. I was being slightly tongue in cheek. I was also going to use Brighton as an example.
The origin of modern tagging is very interesting. I guess it's been around since prehistoric times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAKI_183
I told him about the Roman graffiti I saw at Pompeii.
BTP is reintroducing its anti-graffiti team this month, as well as more private security firms at some hotspots.
Do you have a source for this? Thanks