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I'll bet my combined volume that a lack of clearance for the ATF/25kV Feeder, added with poor ground conditions (hence no burial) is the reason why.

Nope, its to keep the 25kV cable 1m away from the signalling cables and telecoms tails, which are in the other trough route on that side. the other line has no cable route, so the elevated position is necessary.
 
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Very heartening indeed - almost as heartening as the fact that I ended up passing my final year, and am due to graduate in July with a 2:1 in Civil & Railway Engineering!
The railway industry now awaits...
Congratulations, a good pass too. Only the swats get a first and they are usually not people people. I lectured for ten years at Leeds Faculty of Medicine and the swats couldn't communicate with their patients. Not good when you are in the real world as real doctors and dentists.
 

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Congratulations, a good pass too. Only the swats get a first and they are usually not people people. I lectured for ten years at Leeds Faculty of Medicine and the swats couldn't communicate with their patients. Not good when you are in the real world as real doctors and dentists.

I promise I am not a bad person. LDECREXILE and others can vouch for me. Mine was at Imperial College too with an Armours and Braziers prize for student of the year.
 

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Time for the weekly update!
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Manchester Victoria - Preston; State of Play, week beginning 18th June 2018.

25 bases & 165 (at a guess/at most) masts still missing.
All mileages from Manchester Victoria. Bridge mileages are approximated where noted.

1. Man Vic Station (West End) - Man Vic West Jct - Deal Street Jct; 0m 0ch to 0m 32ch
Fully wired 2013-15.

2. Deal Street Jct - Salford Central (East End); 0m 32ch to 0m 59ch
Fully masted. Limit of electrification is currently at 0m 46ch; SPS is up along the unwired stretch.

3. Salford Central; 0m 59ch
Fully masted, most SPS (Small Part Steelwork e.g. dangly bits) up. No wires.

4. Salford Central (West End) - Windsor Bridge South Jct; 0m 59ch to 1m 46ch
All bases in place, mostly with masts, no catenary or earth wires. Two runs of Earth wire are up.

5. Windsor Bridge South Jct - Windsor Bridge North Jct (inc. Salford Crescent); 1m 46ch to 1m 70ch
No catenary/contact wires. The final base in P2 has had its mast and boom installed! All other masts now up through P2, by evidence of the Earth wire being strung betwixt them. The bespoke "right triangle" fixings on one of the footbridges have turned out to be fixings for dangly bits. Each side has two stovepipes; one for a registration arm, one for an earth wire.
All masts and both Earth Wires appear to now be up through the station.
Both tracks to the east of Salford Crescent (the Up & Down Bolton thru P1, and the Up Bolton immediately to the east of that) are completely bedanglied through the station.
S Jct looks ready for wiring, but mast gaps still present at N Jct. Lots of SPS up immediately north of Salford Cres.; including on all stalactites beneath the bridge at the south end on all lines.

6. Windsor Bridge North Jct - Clifton (South End); 1m 70ch to 4m 57ch
Many bases in place, some with masts, no wires.
At Pendleton (the Old Station site), just north of Broughton Rd Bridge (2m 26ch), the Pendleton retaining wall has been cut back in several places to make room for bases (which are all now in).
Between Frederick Rd & Broughton Rd (2m 26ch) bridges, most masts are up, except on the "problem bases" around Broughton Rd. The 3 bases, between Broughton Rd Bridge & Cockrobin Bridge (approx. 2m 51ch) have now all gained masts.
The "problem base" north of Cockrobin Bridge has now finally gained a TTC (Twin Track Cantilever) on the northbound (see photo A384g); the gap is now closed.
Dangly bits up near Agecroft, and the missing bases in the walled stretch north of Agecroft Rd have now appeared & gained TTCs - woohoo! The problem was due to excessively sandy ground conditions in the area.
Steelwork either side of Park House Rd Bridge looks well advanced.

Lot of masts with SPS up on the southern approach to Clifton.

7. Clifton Station; 4m 57ch
1 boomed TTC (with SPS), no wires. Base for another TTC in behind the southbound platform.

8. Clifton (North End) - Kearsley (South End); 4m 57ch to 7m 57ch
Most/all bases in place, large no. of masts, no wires.
Brackets are fitted to the underside of the M60 overbridge. Bridge MVE1 27B (immediately NW of this) is fully erected, but unopened, and work the walkway is not yet finished.
The line through the former Dixon Fold station site (around the new footbridge, approx. 6m 00ch) looks ready for wires; the wire-readiness extends south to the M60 bridge.

Looking south from Kearsley, all masts that are up appear to be fully kitted out with SPS.

9. Kearsley Station; 7m 57ch
All bases in place, no masts, no wires.

10. Kearsley (North End) - Farnworth (South End); 7m 57ch to 8m 31ch
All masts (almost all with booms), no wires. Dangly bits starting to appear at the Kearsley end. Farnworth tunnel (8m 25ch) has all its registration arms in place.

11. Farnworth Station; 8m 31ch
All bases in place, 1 or 2 masts, no wires. Looks pretty much ready for wiring south of the Farnworth Station Footbridge.

12. Farnworth (North End) - Moses Gate (South End); 8m 31ch to 9m 06ch
A pair of bases & squat masts are up between Farnworth Station footbridge and Rawson St Bridge (approx. 8m 44ch). Two bases have now gone in in the southbound cess, awaiting masts; one each side of the "squat portal" uprights.
Fully boomed and fully bedanglied TTCs up between Rawson St & the Balustraded Bridge (approx. 8m 56ch); this stretch
now looks wire-ready.
The Gravity "Base of the century" just south of the Squeeze Belly Entry footbridge (approx. 8m 67ch) is now curing away nicely, with shuttering removed.

13. Moses Gate Station; 9m 06ch
Fully masted, no wires

14. Moses Gate (North End) - Bolton (South End); 9m 06ch to 10m 50ch
Weston St to Moses Gate looks almost ready for wiring.
Many bases, many masts, no wires. SPS and Tensorex drums appearing on some masts/cantilevers around Burnden Jct (10m 09ch).
All uprights appear to be up on both sides of Lever St footbridge; a multi-track portal is up immediately to the south of the bridge. To the north (on the east side), a TTC with reduced-height registration arms is up.
Orlando St Bridge appears to be fully "stovepiped".

15. Bolton Station; 10m 50ch
Through the station, all lines are fully masted with the exception of P1 (1 mast missing between Weston St & Newport St bridges) and P5 (1 mast missing between Weston St & Bradshawgate Tunnel), according to the observations of Reg.
The 1st TTC up over P1/2 has now been bedanglied; in total, P1/2 is covered by 4 TTCs and 3 STCs. P2 still requires its "termination mast".
Platforms 98% open to public; the 2% not open is a fenced-off section of canopy support to the right of signal "MP9239". P2 buffers look finished. Canopies look complete.
Earth wires now going in; the first one runs parallel to P3, from the southern end almost up to the road bridge at the northern end. A second one (parallel to P5) is up, and it extends south through Burnden as far as the eye can see.
Two sets of chalked "hieroglyphs" are etched into the bridge deck of Trinity St over P3/4; possible locations for stovepipes? Additionally, bolts & brackets are now drilled into the glazed brick retaining wall opposite P1.


16. Bolton (North End) - Lostock (South End); 10m 50ch to 13m 52ch
Newport St bridge has now had studs/brackets of some kind drilled in. The run of masts between Newport St & the NW end of P5 now have their earth wire affixed. Just east of Newport St Bridge, a TTC (unbedanglied) has now gone up on the southbound side.
Between Newport Street Bridge & Moor Lane (the Bullfield Tunnels area), the tunnels are bedanglied throughout, with Aerial Earth Wire (AEW) brackets up over both tracks' respective tunnels/bridges.
Immediately NW of Newport St, one of the concrete bases that was poured over the weekend of May 5th has now had a mast affixed; the other mast for the other base is lying in wait.

Gt. Moor St. bridge now has a stovepipe in on the Down side. The most recently cured base, fresh from unwrapping, has now had a mast & two dangly assemblies put up (see pic. A300k; between Great Moor St. & Dawes St. bridges). Of the "3 amigos" (the three closest masts to Great Moor St. Bridge), 2 now have Tensorex Drums fitted and the other has its dangly bits cabled-tied down(see pic. A320k).
Cable ducting troughs laid between Black Horse St & New St on the Down side, in the cess; 5 masts (with a 6th waiting to be erected) are now up in this gap.
The overrun along the line to Blackburn (as far as Bradshawgate Tunnel) looks nearly ready for SPS & wires.

East of Dean Clough Bridge (12m 26ch), 2 "failed" driven pile bases on the southbound side now have formwork for concrete gravity pad replacements in position, awaiting the concrete pour.
Between Dean Clough Bridge and 'the' Ladybridge (next one further west), all masts appear to be up, with cantilever assembles affixed (and folded out of place).
Thence, between 'the' Ladybridge and Beaumont Rd, all masts of all varieties are now up. Earth wires are already being strung!
All bases are in place between Beaumont Rd & Lostock station; only 5 of them are empty now.
Masts have started to appear immediately south of Lostock; at the extreme southern end of the station, a twin track portal with SPS has been erected, with the 4-track portal over Lostock Jct (13m 39ch) immediately south of that now being boomed too. 3 "failed" protruding, uncapped pile bases are on the Wigan Line; one assumes that gravity pad replacements will eventually be in the offing.
More masts around the switchgear box are sprouting dangly bits, switchgear kit etc.
A UTX has been installed in the "vee" in Lostock Jct, for buried service access.
Work currently going on with stacks of cable ducting on the Wigan Line - possibly from the substation?
Another TTC (with boom) has gone up on the Wigan Line.


17. Lostock Station; 13m 52ch
Switchgear box delivered 6th April '18.
Two bases in behind the Down line platform north of the station bridge; both bear TTCs (and both are currently sans boom).

18. Lostock (North End) - Horwich Pkwy (South End); 13m 52ch to 15m 50ch
Two more UTXs have been installed in the "vee" between the two lines, to the north of the station.
Immediately north of the station, the closest TTCs to the platforms have now sprouted part of their switchgear kit.
For a mile between the stations, all wires up from the "Golf Course" Footbridge (approx. 14m 04ch) to half a mile south of Horwich Pkwy (approx. 15m 10ch). Earth wires have gone up on the Down side immediately north of the station; these presumably extend to the existing wired section.
All masts appear to be in place with SPS for the remaining sections between the two, including the A6027/De Havilland Way overbridge, which now has dangly bits mounted on the walls.

19. Horwich Parkway Station; 15m 50ch
Two new TTCs up on the south end of the platforms; one portal and one TTC to go up. Bedanglied TTCs now up through the station, with more to erect.

20. Horwich Pkwy (North End) - Blackrod (South End); 15m 50ch to 17m 14ch
All masts appear to be up NW of Horwich Pkwy to the M61 bridge. Earth/AT wires linking 9 masts together between the 2 stations, heading north (on the Up side) from immediately north of the M61 bridge (approx. 16m 29ch).
More Earth/AT wires are now up immediately NW of the footbridge at the NW end of Horwich Parkway Car Park, on the Down side (N'bound); the footbridge in question has also been sandwiched by some very complex-looking steelwork (presumably for the reduced clearances).
SPS appearing on portals near Blackrod, and SPS assemblies have been folded out of the way on the station's southern approach.
Work has resumed on the footbridge that will replace Red Moss foot crossing; complex portal/masts are up there too.

21. Blackrod Station; 17m 14ch
Some more bases in place, no masts, no wires. Empty mast base at the southern end (not the northern end, as was writ in error). Work also in progress in the station to add masts.

22. Blackrod (North End) - Adlington (South End); 17m 14ch to 19m 15ch
Lots of masts up just north of Blackrod, with SPS all fitted. Some base replacement work occurred over 17th/18th Feb to replace failed bases. Successful bases have masts up with SPS on.

23. Adlington Station; 19m 15ch
2 single masts up (one on each side) and 2 TTCs (on one of the sides); all are bedanglied and earth bonded. THe raod bridge at the southern end has also been stalactited. No wires.

24. Adlington (North End) - Chorley (South End); 19m 15ch to 22m 20ch
2 short stretches of wire on the s'bound track.
Both pairs of bespoke mast fixings are now up on Yarrow Viaduct (21m 26ch at the southern end); work had stopped after the alleged discovery of a large void within the structure, but this appears to be resolved. All evidence of a worksite has now gone, which suggests large steelwork is next!

25. Chorley Station; 22m 20ch
No wires. First mast now up over the Down/Northbound/Preston-bound platform; this is at the northern end of the station, and features dangly bits.

26. Chorley (North End) - Buckshaw Pkwy (South End); 22m 20ch to 24m 39ch
Many bases, some masts, 1 or 2 wires. Roof brackets affixed in Chorley Tunnel (23m 20ch to 23m 25ch), and at least 6 dangly bits/SPS are up in the Flying Arches cutting. All bases on top of the retaining wall at the northern end now have portal booms affixed.

27. Buckshaw Parkway Station; 24m 39ch
Some bases in place, 2 TTCs up on the Down side, 1 TTC up on the Up side. The footbridge has now sprouted stovepipes. No wires.

28. Buckshaw Pkwy (North End) - Euxton Jct; 24m 39ch to 25m 31ch
Almost fully masted; about half the wires up until halfway to Euxton, then fully wired the rest of the way.

Do let me know if I've missed anything!
 
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He beat me to it!

The new concrete base has gained a mast and there are earth wires now on both sides. I took a couple of photos this morning too.

https://www.railforums.co.uk/media/new-mast-at-salford-crescent-18-6-2018.3128/

https://www.railforums.co.uk/media/new-earth-wire-at-salford-crescent-18-6-2018.3127/

Please may I add these smashing shots to the Combined Volume?

If I may, shall I credit them to chrissawyer?

If I may, will you allow me to use any future shots without having to ask you each time?

Hope so.

Dave
 

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Very heartening indeed - almost as heartening as the fact that I ended up passing my final year, and am due to graduate in July with a 2:1 in Civil & Railway Engineering!
The railway industry now awaits...

Congrats a very noble and worthwhile choice of career.
 

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Please may I add these smashing shots to the Combined Volume?

If I may, shall I credit them to chrissawyer?

If I may, will you allow me to use any future shots without having to ask you each time?

Yes to all of the above, but please note the spelling of my name (no Y) - chrissawer

I commute from the Calder Valley to Salford Crescent most weekdays so will keep an eye out for any further changes, particularly on Monday mornings after the weekend blockade.
 

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Yes to all of the above, but please note the spelling of my name (no Y) - chrissawer

I commute from the Calder Valley to Salford Crescent most weekdays so will keep an eye out for any further changes, particularly on Monday mornings after the weekend blockade.

Thank you Chris, I've created an album for your contributions here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/albums/72157670249653288

and added them to the Combined Volume here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/albums/72157661069863633

If your journeys take you via Victoria we'd all be particularly interested in your observations of the state of play from Salford Central to Salford Crescent, a stretch which is very hard to photograph, except from trains.
 

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This article gives as good a summary of the "why electrify" question as I've seen; the final para being the killer.

https://www.railengineer.uk/2018/06/13/why-electrify/

To my mind the article is generally too heavily biased to the engineering viewpoint, though perhaps not surprising given the publication is called Rail Engineer!

This part of the conclusion:
we’ll all just have to live with resultant increased costs and unrealised passenger and environmental benefits if we cannot justify the investment

to me misses the point a bit. It would be far better to say "we’ll all just have to live without resultant reduced costs, some unrealised passenger benefits and less environmental benefits".

The question from Skyobee underneath the article is much more along the lines the engineers need to answer and, indeed pose:

Can batteries be used to bridge 'expensive to electrify gaps' in a cost-reduced electrification scheme?

I.e., instead of electrifying 100% of a line, you electrify 80% that is easiest to electrify, and rely on batteries for the parts that are expensive to convert.

Obviously, this is only valid if line electrification follows something like the 80:20 rule (or 70:30), i.e., 70% of the route costs 30% to electrify, the other 30% is what makes it costly and gets these things cancelled.
 

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Bolton-new mast base Bullfield area
-2 existing bases south of Orlando St bridge have had new(replacement?)bases placed alongside them
-all masts up platform 4 run up to Newport St bridge -last one added at the weekend
-earthwire in place north of platform 3 to Bradshawgate tunnel, platform 1 run in same area still missing one mast.
Couple of pics later.
 

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From the Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/19/northern-rail-passengers-disruption-until-november

Northern rail disruption to last until November
Franchise chief blames lack of ‘stable network’ for prolonged chaos since timetable change

Rail passengers in the north of England will face uncertainty and disruption to their journeys until November due to the lack of a “stable network”, industry chiefs have said.

Senior executives from the Northern rail franchise and Network Rail, under questioning by a transport watchdog on Tuesday in Manchester, admitted they were aware of the chaos a new timetable would cause two days before it was implemented.

The confirmation of continued disruption came as Northern rail passengers faced more immediate travel misery due to a fresh round of strikes called by the RMT union. In the House of Commons transport secretary Chris Grayling survived a vote of confidence tabled by Labour by 20 votes.

Tuesday’s 24-hour walkout – the latest in the long-running dispute over the issue of train guards – was due to be repeated on Thursday and Saturday. Passengers on Tuesday morning complained of overcrowded trains and insufficient rail replacement buses for rush-hour services across the north of England.

The crisis meeting in Manchester came after hundreds of services were disrupted across the Northern networks when schedules were changed on 20 May. The operator was heavily criticised for days of catastrophic delays before an emergency schedule was imposed that slashed 165 services a day.

Network Rail’s director of route sponsorship, Patrick Cawley, was asked about the progress of electrification work in the north-west of England. During an uncomfortable exchange with Jeff Halliwell – the chairman of the watchdog Transport Focus – Cawley admitted that the infrastructure for some services would not be ready until November.

Cawley said: “In September we’re looking to complete the work and we’re looking to enter into service in November – I think it’s the 10th. That’s when we’ll have the infrastructure ready.”

Earlier, Halliwell told the board meeting, attended by a range of train user groups, that the public wanted clarity on what caused the “timetable crisis”.

David Brown, Northern’s managing director, apologised for the disruption and said his firm was working hard to lift the current interim timetable. He said Northern had been “on track” to deliver the new timetable until it was revealed in January that a Network Rail project to electrify the line between Manchester and Preston was delayed.

Brown said this meant the timetable needed to be planned in just 16 weeks rather than the typical period of 40 weeks. He said Northern had asked for the national timetable change to be postponed so the previous schedule would continue, but this was turned down.

Asked to identify who was responsible for the problems, Brown said it was not his job to apportion blame. “There’s a range of independent reviews that will get to that, but the timetable that we delivered was delayed because a number of the infrastructure requirements that we need to run that timetable were delayed in themselves.

“That’s not blame, that’s just a statement of fact,” Brown added.

The meeting heard from passenger groups about the unprecedented delays, confusion and cancellations that have brought chaos to their lives.

In the Lake District, a vintage train operator that normally runs journeys for enthusiasts was forced to step in to provide rail services following the timetabling fiasco.

West Coast Railways, which runs charter trains along some of the UK’s most scenic routes, launched its first service on the Lakes line, two weeks after Northern suspended all journeys and introduced a replacement bus service.

A 40-year-old diesel engine and carriages now carry passengers free of charge along the 10-mile route from Oxenholme to Windermere six times a day.

Henri Murison, director of the Northern Powerhouse Partnershipcalled for Transport for the North to be given full power and responsibility over Network Rail and train operators in the region.

He said: “The root cause of this was the delays to electrification works between Blackpool and Preston and in the Bolton corridor, and timetables being signed off too late for Northern Rail. This cannot be allowed to happen again. The only way to ensure it doesn’t is for the north to take control of its own destiny.”


Note in particular this bit:

Network Rail’s director of route sponsorship, Patrick Cawley, was asked about the progress of electrification work in the north-west of England. During an uncomfortable exchange with Jeff Halliwell – the chairman of the watchdog Transport Focus – Cawley admitted that the infrastructure for some services would not be ready until November.

Cawley said: “In September we’re looking to complete the work and we’re looking to enter into service in November – I think it’s the 10th. That’s when we’ll have the infrastructure ready."
 

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Not sure it's quite as bad a picture as painted.
Northern MD said yesterday to the TSC that the "May" timetable would be delivered at the end of July (in parallel with Lime St reopening).
So cancellations should be reduced by then.
Weekend disruption via Bolton will obviously continue for some time.
They are not yet posting a delay to the Bolton electrification beyond the December timetable change, but there is a risk.
Yesterday's TSC also said that the industry still has to take a decision about whether all the network changes planned for December would go ahead.
There shouldn't be a massive training issue over the Bolton route when wired, as they've been operating normally Mon-Fri.
I guess we still wait for the deleted "May" services (eg Chester-Leeds) to be confirmed in the December timetable.
 

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I think he's probably saying that the infrastructure will be complete for September, which is important because this the date Northern said they need to start driver training for whatever reason. He wouldn't want people thinking that was the day the leccy trains will start though, since they probably won't run straight away.
 

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Fascinating - Northern's man says they wanted to defer the timetable change by a month, but it's been more than obvious that Manchester to Preston wasn't going to hit (or even get close to) April 2018 since well before Carillion went bump (effectively 27th September 2017). I also understand that some of Northern's driver training issues are self-caused ...
 

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How does the 2 month difference between completion and (presumably) ORR sign off compare to other projects so far? And will there need to be much driver training prior to introduction of electric services - I presume that stock and (main) route learning can be done beforehand?
 

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A couple of photos taken at Farnworth last Sunday.
LDECRexile please feel to use, credit to Mark again
bridge1706.jpg station1706.jpg
 

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How does the 2 month difference between completion and (presumably) ORR sign off compare to other projects so far? And will there need to be much driver training prior to introduction of electric services - I presume that stock and (main) route learning can be done beforehand?

All depots that work through Bolton - off the top of my head Blackpool/Blackburn/Manchester Victoria/Manchester Piccadilly/Barrow/Wigan/Buxton should all have completed any necessary route learning associated with the May timetable farce.

With regards to changing certain services to EMU - I’m guessing Blackpool/Manchester Victoria/Manchester Piccadilly & Wigan depots are the ones who currently sign EMUs who will work the EMUs via Bolton, so there isn’t as big a risk to the December TT as there was to the May TT.

TransPennine Express Traincrew have no booked work via Bolton, but it is currently a diversionary route and so is competency is kept on route retention days. When the OLE is signed off then TPE can revert to running via Bolton with the 350s.
 
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