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Is CDL always used, even on moves without any passengers on board?
You’ve picked that up completely wrong. The use of an egress to release the local door in the TSD coach of a slam door set is only the procedure at stations where single door working is in operation, i.e. stations which are too short to accomodate a full 2+4 set with all doors safely alongside the platform. The only stations where Short Platform Door Operation is used are Dalwhinnie (platform 1), Broughty Ferry (platform 1) and Portlethen (both platforms). At all other stations the doors are released from the panel in the TGS only and the TGS guard’s door is used to verify the whole train is accomodated on the platform before door release is given.I wonder if the policy of using egress handles to release local doors for checking platforms is to blame.
You’ve picked that up completely wrong. The use of an egress to release the local door in the TSD coach of a slam door set is only the procedure at stations where single door working is in operation, i.e. stations which are too short to accomodate a full 2+4 set with all doors safely alongside the platform. The only stations where Short Platform Door Operation is used are Dalwhinnie (platform 1), Broughty Ferry (platform 1) and Portlethan (both platforms). At all other stations the doors are released from the panel in the TGS only and the TGS guard’s door is used to verify the whole train is accomodated on the platform before door release is given.
I don’t think you know enough to say whether a particular procedure is ‘ideal’ or not.
Genuine question- what’s wrong with the Great Western policy of positioning the guard at a specified door & opening the doors in front of or behind that point? Seemed to work well the last time I was over the Cotswold line with its various short platforms.I don’t think you know enough to say whether a particular procedure is ‘ideal’ or not.
Well I'm a glass half-full kind of guy it's a shame we've had so many hitches with the conversions and introductions into service but it does look like Wabtec are getting to grips with the upgrades now. We could debate all day about the rights and wrongs of going with the HSTs but as more refurbished sets enter service I think the passengers are going to see a major step up in quality of service.Well Set 5 was said to be ready while Set 4 was still at Wabtec. Plus deliveries keep getting cancelled.
I do hope it appears soon, but I'm not expecting it "imminently"
You’ve picked that up completely wrong. The use of an egress to release the local door in the TSD coach of a slam door set is only the procedure at stations where single door working is in operation, i.e. stations which are too short to accomodate a full 2+4 set with all doors safely alongside the platform. The only stations where Short Platform Door Operation is used are Dalwhinnie (platform 1), Broughty Ferry (platform 1) and Portlethen (both platforms). At all other stations the doors are released from the panel in the TGS only and the TGS guard’s door is used to verify the whole train is accomodated on the platform before door release is given.
Well I'm a glass half-full kind of guy it's a shame we've had so many hitches with the conversions and introductions into service but it does look like Wabtec are getting to grips with the upgrades now. We could debate all day about the rights and wrongs of going with the HSTs but as more refurbished sets enter service I think the passengers are going to see a major step up in quality of service.
Your best bet I'd say is to sign up to the Scot-rail gen group and keep an eye on posts there. The next day's allocations are sometimes posted, or you can piece together what's on what diagram based on reports early in the day.How many diagrams are likely to be the booked HST's next week as planned. I notice on RTT lots more have come in. Just wondering what set availability is like at the moment. Is there anyone who can advise on a given day - which of the HST's is being substituted. I'm hoping to have a few runs Edinburgh to Inverness and Edinburgh to Aberdeen from Tuesday lunchtime through to Weds afternoon. I will try to get the Glasgow to Perth section in too.
Any clues as to where the next refurbed set is heading once it leaves Wabtec? A depot for training or straight into service?
The London Midland 320/4s were the polar opposite of this fiasco...
They didn’t change the livery or the seating layout initially! They basically turned up with the number changed, a coach removed and small ScotRail door stickers. I thought a compressor did need to be moved though? Could be wrong on that one.This is no great surprise given that the work required on these (removing a trailer coach with no equipment under it, tweaking the seating layout a bit, swapping the cushions and covers and painting it) is rather trivial in the scheme of things. Indeed, that this work was simple was why ScotRail did a 3-way swap with 319s to the south WCML and didn't just take 319s themselves - 319s have a compressor unit on the trailer, there's no coach with no essential equipment on it.
From scotrail twitter
You’ll be able to catch upgraded #Inter7City high-speed trains on the following services today
1111 Glasgow Queen St - Inverness 1245 Aberdeen - Edinburgh 1605 Edinburgh - Aberdeen 1624 Inverness - Glasgow Queen St
Certainly as far as I'm aware that's why I thought I would put it up here.
One of the refurbished sets worked out of Queen Street on Aberdeen services for a day in March or April. It was noted on this thread if you feel like trawling back through it all.Is this the first use of a refurb set out of Glasgow and Inverness in passenger service?