modernrail
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First trip on a 195 today. Hmmm, quite a few bits that could have been done better.
- The thud out of 1st. Could that really not have been avoided?
- Space age noise is very odd.
- Something is making these units feel a lot smaller than the TPE 185's inside. I suspect it is a combination of factors including the black seat frames. A lesson in poor interior design all round.
- The seats are rubbish, but so are the seats on my Thameslink. The flat cloth is already looking grubby. I suspect the manufacturer will come to regret the day they ever suggested this grade of cloth is right for railways seats, especially bearing in mind they also manufacture moquette. I would have thought the TOCs will be in a queue to complain that the advertised ease of cleaning/durability etc is not playing out.
- The heating duct intrudes almost as badly as on the 700's. It also seems to come up higher overall and is bare metal. I am in shorts today and my leg is sort od forced against it. Is that going to be a problem when that metal gets hot in winter I wonder?
- The PIS is not working.
- Having looked at the seat alignment in person, it really is lazy.
They seem to move well at speed. They are not quiet units at all, especially with all the special effects.
All in all, a lack of attention to detail and a very odd feeling of a smaller carriage than I think they in reality are.
A shame really - the north has been waiting 15 years for these units. I would rather be on a 323, 170, 158, 185 and maybe even a 156. Maybe maybe even a 319. They are however better in my view than a Pacer
- The thud out of 1st. Could that really not have been avoided?
- Space age noise is very odd.
- Something is making these units feel a lot smaller than the TPE 185's inside. I suspect it is a combination of factors including the black seat frames. A lesson in poor interior design all round.
- The seats are rubbish, but so are the seats on my Thameslink. The flat cloth is already looking grubby. I suspect the manufacturer will come to regret the day they ever suggested this grade of cloth is right for railways seats, especially bearing in mind they also manufacture moquette. I would have thought the TOCs will be in a queue to complain that the advertised ease of cleaning/durability etc is not playing out.
- The heating duct intrudes almost as badly as on the 700's. It also seems to come up higher overall and is bare metal. I am in shorts today and my leg is sort od forced against it. Is that going to be a problem when that metal gets hot in winter I wonder?
- The PIS is not working.
- Having looked at the seat alignment in person, it really is lazy.
They seem to move well at speed. They are not quiet units at all, especially with all the special effects.
All in all, a lack of attention to detail and a very odd feeling of a smaller carriage than I think they in reality are.
A shame really - the north has been waiting 15 years for these units. I would rather be on a 323, 170, 158, 185 and maybe even a 156. Maybe maybe even a 319. They are however better in my view than a Pacer