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Depends on how you count it NSE.
Either way, it's the busyest outside "London"
Either way, it's the busyest outside "London"
Airport services aren't just for "holidaymakers" may I point out. Business travellers, airport workers and inbound tourists are also potential users
So, you're only opening up direct services to the North West? Why does Barrow need a through service, but Leeds doesn't? Have I misunderstood what you are saying here?
Someone mentioned that Manchester Airport is the third busiest airport, thats actually not true. Stansted is surprisingly busier than both Birmingham and Manchester and is in fact the third.
Yes, but airport staff at Manchester Airport are less likely to have several heavy bags. Business travellers will have some luggage, granted, but not so much that changing trains is going to be significantly hard work.
Airport workers are going to be fairly "local" too, so less in need of links from all over Northern England.
My idea was that four/hour to the Airport would give a better balance of resources (not the twenty plus coaches each hour that passenger numbers don't justify).
Its easier for Airport services to go from 13/14 at Piccadilly (to avoid the conflicting movement of a 185 getting from the Guide Bridge line to the Airport line as it reverses), and the Preston services match the volume of services I propose for the Airport.
2010 based on total passenger numbers:
London Stansted - 18,573,803
Manchester -17,759,015
Manchester is larger, with more routes and airlines. However, Stansted is slightly busier. My gut feeling is that Manchester will overtake Stansted
So what, the Cleethorpes - Manchester Airport will run via Stockport, Victoria, Oxford Road and Piccadilly to the Airport
TPE would be better off bypassing Picadilly altogether and running Manchester Airport-Leeds non-stop, ducks
actually it would be nice if the MIA-Yorkshire TPE services didn't stop for so long in Picadilly
I personally would like to see TPE fragmented into 38 pieces, and FirstGroup only allowed to operate a small section between Haymarket and Edinburgh. Personal opinion, of course
I had made a posting an another thread some months ago that First TPE had written to me stating that they were adamant that they were not going to change the existing route of the Cleethorpes to Manchester Airport services, even though it meant reversal at Manchester Piccadilly remaining.
Manchester Airport was the third busiest airport in the UK but was overtaken by Stansted a few years ago.
... this is late 50s, then it was still Nissan huts
Surely they were still Datsun huts back then. (Groan!)
I put the third busiest up, according to latest data, it will be the third busiest uk airport in 2011, back where it belongs.
And they keep putting more and more traffic into T1 and 3, rather than where there is a lot of spare capacity in T2, although that will need expansion soon, will be easy enough though, but T2 is better for longer layovers, not what it's currently used for with short layover flights. T3 was ment for short layovers.
Just seen this amusing thread from when Stansted overtook Manchester:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=318017
I wonder if 'Monkey' is still following CAA stats!
Just seen this amusing thread from when Stansted overtook Manchester:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=318017
I wonder if 'Monkey' is still following CAA stats!
It's Stansted.So Tessie Cohen built Stanstead, I love the resemblance of the building "Standstead Extra" comes to mind
It's Stansted.
Would there be a case for diverting one of the Euston - Manchester services per hour into Airport instead of Piccadilly ? (ie xx40 from Euston, xx55 from Piccadilly which run via Crewe)
As things stand Manchester Airport is very well served for destinations north of Manchester but has few services running south.
May well be a fantastic case for it, but you can't fit a 390 into the platforms at Manchester Airport...
You could until they were lengthened...