Scottish Electrification updates & discussion

dtaylor84 · 9 May 2018

Kippenross tunnel (as well as the nearby footbridge) were done long ago.

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InOban · 9 May 2018

I think that Kerse Rd Stirling, currently being rebuilt, is the last structure in that section, hence the announcement that evening and weekend closures end from the 20th.

I think they're all done also on the Shotts route except perhaps for a brief Briech?

59CosG95 · 9 May 2018

InOban said:
I think that Kerse Rd Stirling, currently being rebuilt, is the last structure in that section, hence the announcement that evening and weekend closures end from the 20th.

I think they're all done also on the Shotts route except perhaps for a brief Briech?

No-one really knows what the latest news on Breich is, but yes, I do believe it is the last one.

Altnabreac · 9 May 2018

59CosG95 said:
No-one really knows what the latest news on Breich is, but yes, I do believe it is the last one.

There is also Hartwood Station Footbridge that needs replaced on the Shotts line as well as whatever is planned at Breich.

mcmad · 9 May 2018

Still a gap in the masts around Plean of 3 or 4 on each line. Progress overnight has seen fittings on the masts down to just North of Larbert station

59CosG95 · 14 May 2018

https://twitter.com/NetworkRailEGIP/status/996069030837485568 Monday through Thursday (well, Tuesday through Friday), piling works are going on in Dunblane.

385001 · 17 May 2018

Lots of twitter activity about station work on the Shotts line over the next few months.

Carfin - https://twitter.com/shottslineelec/status/997118409958715392
Cleland - https://twitter.com/shottslineelec/status/997115747733327874
Fauldhouse - https://twitter.com/shottslineelec/status/997116429035098112
Shotts - https://twitter.com/shottslineelec/status/997117157107552256

Interesting that platforms are being lengthened at Shotts and Carfin but reduced at Cleland.

michael769 · 19 May 2018

A works compound is being created near to the existing Briech station so work must be due to start.

Last week there was a lot of demolition work on the railway near the new West Calder High School work site - I suspect it may have been the former footbridge being demolished.

The_Engineer · 19 May 2018

https://twitter.com/AlexHynes/status/997715891671457792

Exactly what did the test train last night do? It appears that a Class 380 train was used as the first electric train over part of the electrified line towards Alloa.....

gingertom · 19 May 2018

The_Engineer said:
https://twitter.com/AlexHynes/status/997715891671457792

Exactly what did the test train last night do? It appears that a Class 380 train was used as the first electric train over part of the electrified line towards Alloa.....

well as of yesterday afternoon there still weren't any wires at Causewayhead or the Forth viaduct so this must refer to the other end- Polmont to Greenhills Lower finally good to go?

The_Engineer · 19 May 2018

gingertom said:
well as of yesterday afternoon there still weren't any wires at Causewayhead or the Forth viaduct so this must refer to the other end- Polmont to Greenhills Lower finally good to go?

It appears there were several workings, starting with a 5Z90 - 01:10 Queen Street to Polmont, a return out and back (5Z91 & 5Z92) from Polmont to Cadder DPL and then 5Z93 Polmont to Eastfield CS all via Grahamston and Camelon. Timed for a Class 385.

Macwomble · 19 May 2018

The_Engineer said:
https://twitter.com/AlexHynes/status/997715891671457792

Exactly what did the test train last night do? It appears that a Class 380 train was used as the first electric train over part of the electrified line towards Alloa.....

Certainly no wiring much beyond Carmuirs Junction (northwards)....and the Alloa "branch" is largely incomplete too.

92002 · 19 May 2018

All these test runs would use Carmuirs East and West. No need to use Carmuirs North and the lines towards Larbert, Stirling and Alloa.

gingertom · 19 May 2018

92002 said:
All these test runs would use Carmuirs East and West. No need to use Carmuirs North and the lines towards Larbert, Stirling and Alloa.

would have been more accurate to have said the E&G's diversionary route via FKG than the route to Alloa. A bit of PR spin.

92002 · 19 May 2018

The trains were the proving runs for the recently switched on power to OHL last week.

gingertom · 19 May 2018

92002 said:
The trains were the proving runs for the recently switched on power to OHL last week.

Absolutely. The OLE system has to be safe for use. Do you know if it has been certified and accepted?

92002 · 19 May 2018

Would need to be certified safe before the switch was thrown to make it live or there would have been a rather large flash.

The_Engineer · 19 May 2018

92002 said:
Would need to be certified safe before the switch was thrown to make it live or there would have been a rather large flash.

Indeed, after switch-on there are various test and approval stages ending with an ORR permission to run electric service trains and Network Rail route authorisation. This test run is one of those intermediate stages leading up to final approvals.

gingertom · 19 May 2018

The_Engineer said:
Indeed, after switch-on there are various test and approval stages ending with an ORR permission to run electric service trains and Network Rail route authorisation. This test run is one of those intermediate stages leading up to final approvals.

thanks.

Highlandspring · 19 May 2018

The_Engineer said:
It appears there were several workings, starting with a 5Z90 - 01:10 Queen Street to Polmont, a return out and back (5Z91 & 5Z92) from Polmont to Cadder DPL and then 5Z93 Polmont to Eastfield CS all via Grahamston and Camelon. Timed for a Class 385.

380010/102 and 380111 - they did find one problem but it was sorted out on the night.

The_Engineer · 19 May 2018

Highlandspring said:
380010/102 and 380111 - they did find one problem but it was sorted out on the night.

A successful night then! Well done to all involved. Hopefully the full approval will be forthcoming, though when the electric passenger trains run remains to be seen!

gingertom · 19 May 2018

Highlandspring said:
380010/102 and 380111 - they did find one problem but it was sorted out on the night.

that's what testing's for...

Highlandspring · 19 May 2018

Indeed.

Class 170101 · 20 May 2018

Will we see Pendolinos from Polmadie sent over the routes for testing the OLE in a similar fashion to when they went testing on Chat Moss?

Carntyne · 21 May 2018

Doubtful, 380 units are being used for testing.

Highlandspring · 21 May 2018

There would need to be a lot of Route Clearance work undertaken first. Although at one time Virgin’s aspiration was to run at least one 390 a day from Stirling that died a death when the franchise renewal went wrong so I don’t think it’s likely to be any sort of priority. Pendos are still not Route Cleared for the R&C, which is a particularly useful diversion, more than 3 years since it was first electrified.

mcmad · 21 May 2018

I wonder if that's because something if foul rather than nobody bothered to look?

Highlandspring · 21 May 2018

It's down to an issue with a bridge at Whifflet South Junction but it's indicative that no one wants to pay for something that would be, frankly, far more useful than clearing them to Edinburgh via Cumbernauld.

najaB · 21 May 2018

Highlandspring said:
It's down to an issue with a bridge at Whifflet South Junction...

Actual day to day issue or a "if the tilt's failed and the train is crush loaded" type issue?

Highlandspring · 21 May 2018

Pass.

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