Different Guard Depot, Route and Traction cards

[Amnesiac]

WMT:
Birmingham New St, Coventry, Wolverhampton sign the 730 now

Birmingham New St also sign the 196, link dependent

 

[gerryuk]

Do EMR have guards at Sheffield for the MML, i know they don't have drivers in Sheffield?

 

[godfreycomplex]

Do EMR have guards at Sheffield for the MML, i know they don't have drivers in Sheffield?

Yes they do have TMs and caterers there

 

[8J]

Some updates required to TPEs list

Newcastle guards no longer sign west of Leeds and they also now only sign Class 802s.

Liverpool guards no longer have booked work East of Leeds.

All York guards sign 802s now.

 

[Horizon22]

Do EMR have guards at Sheffield for the MML, i know they don't have drivers in Sheffield?

Yes they do have TMs and caterers there

We are missing this - any idea of route knowledge?

Just an update about TPE at Lime street.

Liverpool Lime Street:
Traction: 185, 802

Liverpool L St-Manchester Vic via Newton-le-Willows
Edge Hill-Manchester Airport via Warrington Central
Manchester Picc-Leeds via Marsden and Dewsbury
Huddersfield-Leeds via Wakefield Kirkgate
Brighouse-Huddersfield
Miles Platting-Heaton Lodge via Hebden Bridge
Salford Central-Water Street Jn (Ordsall Chord)

The route card has been decimated over recent years but that is what absolutely everyone signs.



There are also a number of extras that some sign and some don't. They are:

Leeds-York via micklefield or Castleford.(no booked work as of Dec23)
Salford Crescent-Manchester Victoria (direct)
Salford Crescent-Deansgate
York-Newcastle via KEB and HLB (crew in the single digits still sign it.)

Over 150 miles lost in the name of efficiency.

Some updates required to TPEs list

Newcastle guards no longer sign west of Leeds and they also now only sign Class 802s.

Liverpool guards no longer have booked work East of Leeds.

All York guards sign 802s now.

Will add these both shortly.

WMT:
Birmingham New St, Coventry, Wolverhampton sign the 730 now

Birmingham New St also sign the 196, link dependent

Thanks edited.

 

[stadler]

Is it possible for someome to add the NIR information i posted in post #202 earlier:

Different Guard Depot, Route and Traction cards

WMT Snow Hill Conductors. Leamington to Stratford OA (Hatton South curve) now signed.

www.railforums.co.uk

I just noticed it had not been added yet so just thought that i would point this out.

Also i spoke to a guard on Eurostar the other week and found out this regarding which routes the guards at each depot signs:

Amsterdam:
• 374
• Brussels to Amsterdam

Brussels:
• 373 374
• London to Brussels
• London to Paris

Lille:
• 373 374
• London to Brussels
• London to Paris

London:
• 373 374
• London to Brussels
• London to Paris

Paris:
• 373 374
• London to Brussels
• London to Paris

All of the guards at all of the depots have the "Train Manager" title.

It is worth pointing out that the route knowledge in Mainland Europe works very differently to the UK and the guards do not have to sign routes in Belgium and France in the same way that they do in the UK.

Also note this information is for Eurostar guards who work traditional Eurostar trains only. The depots in Mainland Europe also have Thalys guards which are now Eurostar trains. However the Thalys guards are seperate and do not work the traditional Eurostar services and the person i spoke to was not sure on what they sign. So this information is only for traditional Eurostar trains. Although i was told that Eurostar are looking at integrating it at some point in the future so both traditional Eurostar services and ex Thalys services can be worked by the same guards.

Also for Chiltern Railways you can remove West Ealing from Banbury depot as they no longer sign this.

One other thing is that the Grand Central based guards at Bradford depot sign the 221s now as well.

 

[NewarkRed]

We are missing this - any idea of route knowledge?

Sheffield - Derby via Dronfield and Beighton
Sheffield - Nottingham via Alfreton
Derby - Nottingham
Derby - Leicester
Leicester - Manton Jc. - Kettering
Leicester - St Pancras via Market Harborough

222 only.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

MetroDreamin' | OUT OF DATE Transpennine Express Guard Route Knowledge

MetroDreamin' | Based on the raulforums thread (linked below) I have created a map for the TPE Guard Route Knowledge, For some weird reasons, the lines don't always show up around junctions, please use the categories to de-select locations (keep the one you want) and this should fix itself...

metrodreamin.com

Started creating a map for TPE's using this thread, not much done yet (since I realised the time) but I should get to it tomorrow evening, and hope to have a few depots done by then.

 

[Horizon22]

Is it possible for someome to add the NIR information i posted in post #202 earlier:

Different Guard Depot, Route and Traction cards

WMT Snow Hill Conductors. Leamington to Stratford OA (Hatton South curve) now signed.

www.railforums.co.uk

I just noticed it had not been added yet so just thought that i would point this out.

Also i spoke to a guard on Eurostar the other week and found out this regarding which routes the guards at each depot signs:

Amsterdam:
• 374
• Brussels to Amsterdam

Brussels:
• 373 374
• London to Brussels
• London to Paris

Lille:
• 373 374
• London to Brussels
• London to Paris

London:
• 373 374
• London to Brussels
• London to Paris

Paris:
• 373 374
• London to Brussels
• London to Paris

All of the guards at all of the depots have the "Train Manager" title.

It is worth pointing out that the route knowledge in Mainland Europe works very differently to the UK and the guards do not have to sign routes in Belgium and France in the same way that they do in the UK.

Also note this information is for Eurostar guards who work traditional Eurostar trains only. The depots in Mainland Europe also have Thalys guards which are now Eurostar trains. However the Thalys guards are seperate and do not work the traditional Eurostar services and the person i spoke to was not sure on what they sign. So this information is only for traditional Eurostar trains. Although i was told that Eurostar are looking at integrating it at some point in the future so both traditional Eurostar services and ex Thalys services can be worked by the same guards.

Also for Chiltern Railways you can remove West Ealing from Banbury depot as they no longer sign this.

One other thing is that the Grand Central based guards at Bradford depot sign the 221s now as well.

Thanks I've added/updated all that and NIR will be done at another time.

Sheffield - Derby via Dronfield and Beighton
Sheffield - Nottingham via Alfreton
Derby - Nottingham
Derby - Leicester
Leicester - Manton Jc. - Kettering
Leicester - St Pancras via Market Harborough

222 only.

Thanks, added.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

MetroDreamin' | OUT OF DATE Transpennine Express Guard Route Knowledge

MetroDreamin' | Based on the raulforums thread (linked below) I have created a map for the TPE Guard Route Knowledge, For some weird reasons, the lines don't always show up around junctions, please use the categories to de-select locations (keep the one you want) and this should fix itself...

metrodreamin.com

Started creating a map for TPE's using this thread, not much done yet (since I realised the time) but I should get to it tomorrow evening, and hope to have a few depots done by then.

I believe this is now complete, I will aim to maintain it whenever a change to the TPE route knowledge is mentioned here, for some reason the colours like to vanish, please de-select the depots you aren't looking for using the menu.

Edit:
Gave up on Northern (for now at least, it'll be a lot of work if I ever decide to do it) and did Avanti instead! Unfortunately documentation for diversion routes is very limited, so I didn't put any diversion routes on there, except for Preston's Wigan-Manc-Crewe, which is specifically listed.

MetroDreamin' | Avanti West Coast Guard "Train manager" Route Knowledge

MetroDreamin' | Based on the raulforums thread (linked below) I have created a map for the Avanti Train Manager Route Knowledge, unfortunately, it is not detailed which diversion routes are known, so until better info is avaliable, I can't draw those on. For some weird reasons, the lines don't...

metrodreamin.com

 

[jamesst]

Worth pointing out at merseyrail that no Birkenhead guards sign kirkdale or vice versa, that's only something a small group of drivers do

 

[philc81]

Train Operating Companies H - Z:

Spoiler: Hull Trains

Hull::
Traction: 802

Hull to London Kings Cross (including diversions via Goole, Sleaford, Cambridge, Hertford and others)
Hull to Beverley

Spoiler: London North Eastern Railway (LNER)

Aberdeen:
Traction: 800, 801

Aberdeen to Edinburgh (including via Fife Circle and Ladybank to Perth and Dundee

Doncaster:
Traction: 67, 91/MK4 ,800, 801

Kings Cross to Newcastle
Doncaster to York via Hambleton
Doncaster to Leeds via Wakefield Westgate and via Hare Park/Altofts
Doncaster to Hull via Selby and Goole
Doncaster to Peterborough via Sleaford
Doncaster Carr IEP Depot

Edinburgh:
Traction: 800, 801


Edinburgh to York (including via the High Level Bridge at Newcastle)
Edinburgh to Aberdeen (including the Fife Circle via Dunfermline)
Edinburgh to Perth via Stirling (Lodge link guards sign Perth to Inverness)
Edinburgh to Glasgow Central via Carstairs and Motherwell (NOT the route via Holytown)
Edinburgh to Carlisle via Carstairs
Carlisle to Newcastle via Hexham
The Edinburgh Suburban Line (Portobello Jn to Slateford Jn, NOT to Haymarket W Jn)
Ladybank to Perth
Perth to Dundee

Leeds
Traction: 91/MK4,800, 801

Leeds to Kings Cross via Wakefield Westgate and via Hare Park/Altofts and via Shaftholme
Leeds to Newcastle via Castleford and Peckfield
Doncaster to York via Shaftholme and via Hambledon
Doncaster to Peterborough via Sleaford
Leeds to Bradford Forster Square, Harrogate, Huddersfield, Skipton
Hertford Loop
Doncaster Decoy
Neville Hill Depot

Kings Cross:
Traction: 800, 801, 08 and 67 (link dependant)

Kings Cross to Newcastle
Doncaster to Leeds via Wakefield Westgate
Newark North Gate to Lincoln
Hertford Loop
Doncaster Decoy
Sleaford
Hitchin to Peterborough via Cambridge
Bounds Green Depot & Ferme Park Sidings

Newcastle:
Traction: 800, 801
Edinburgh to Kings Cross
Edinburgh to Newcastle via Carlisle (diversionary)
Durham Coast

Spoiler: Merseyrail

Birkenhead Central:
Traction: 507, 508 (soon 777)

Liverpool Loop to West Kirby/New Brighton/Ellesmere Port/Chester
Liverpool to Rice Lane/Walton (Kirkdale Depot)

Kirkdale:
Traction: 507, 508 (soon 777)

Southport to Liverpool to Hunts Cross
Liverpool to Ormskirk
Liverpool to Kirkby

Southport:
Traction: 507, 508 (soon 777)

Southport to Liverpool to Hunts Cross
Liverpool to Ormskirk
Liverpool to Kirkby

*Small amount of guards at Birkenhead and Kirkdale who sign the other depot's routes.

Spoiler: Northern

Ashington (not yet open)
Traction: 156, 158

Newcastle to Ashington/Morpeth/Carlisle
Newcastle to Middlesbrough via Durham Coast

Barrow-in-Furness:
Common Traction across both links: 156, 158, 195, 331

Both Links:
Barrow to Preston
Carnfroth and Lancaster to Morecambe

Ex. First North Western (FNW) link:
Barrow to Carlisle via Cumbrian Coast
Morecambe to Heysham

Ex. Transpennine Express (TPE) link:
Carnforth South Junction to Windermere
Blackpool North to Fylde Junction
Preston to Manchester Airport via Chorley
Preston to Blackpool
Euxton Junction to Ordsall Lane via Wigan North Western and Chat Moss

Blackburn:
Traction: 150/0, 150/1, 150/2, 153, 156, 158

Manchester to Wigan via Atherton or Bolton
Manchester to Clitheroe via Darwen
Wigan Wallgate to Southport (may have lapsed)
Manchester to Blackburn via Todmorden
Preston to Blackpool South
Preston to Ormskirk
Preston to Colne

Blackpool North:
Guards can be under FNW (First North Western) T&Cs or TPE (Transpennine Express) T&Cs. Routes and traction differ depending on what you fall under. New entrants can join under either ex-TOC, this is mentioned in the job specification.

Ex-TPE Traction: 195, 319, 331. Possibly 156.

Blackpool North to Preston
Preston to Barrow and Windermere
Preston to Manchester Victoria and Piccadilly via Chorley
Preston to Manchester Piccadilly via Wigan and Chat Moss
Manchester Piccadilly to Manchester Airport

Ex-FNW Traction: 150/1, 150/2, 156, 158, 195, 319, 331.

Blackpool North/South to Preston
Preston to Ormskirk
Preston to Colne
Preston to York via Bradford/Leeds/Micklefield
Preston to Manchester Victoria and Piccadilly via Chorley
Manchester Piccadilly to Airport
Preston to Liverpool Lime Street via Wigan and St Helens Central
Preston to Morecambe via Lancaster (this may have lapsed)
Blackburn to Carlisle via Clitheroe and Settle and Carlisle (DalesRail Sundays-only, may have lapsed)

Buxton:
Traction: 150, 156, 319, 331, 769.

Buxton to Manchester Piccadilly
Piccadilly to Chester via Altrincham
Piccadilly to Alderley Edge via Stockport
Piccadilly to Manchester Airport
Piccadilly to Blackpool North via Bolton (they do not sign via Golborne afaik)
Bolton to Wigan via Westhoughton
Manchester Airport to Wilmslow via Styal

Doncaster:
Traction: 150, 158, 170, 331

Doncaster to Leeds
Doncaster to Scunthorpe
Doncaster to Sheffield (via Swinton/Thrybergh, and Masborough/Rotherham Central)
Doncaster to Hull via Goole

Harrogate
Traction:

Leeds to York via Harrogate

Hull:
Traction: 150, 155, 158, 170

Hull - Scarborough
Hull - York (via ECML and via Sherburn)
Hull - Leeds
Leeds - York (via Micklefield)
Hull - Doncaster (via Goole and via Selby/ECML)
Doncaster - Sheffield (express via Thrybergh and via Swinton)
Doncaster - Sheffield (stopper via Rotherham)

Leeds:
Traction: 150/1, 150/2, 155, 156, 158, 170, 195, 331, 333

All Conductors should sign the following routes. All new starters will learn these routes to allow them to go into the Supernumerary Link and then Link 4S.
Leeds to York via Micklefield
Micklefield to Selby (allows Leeds conductors to work Halifax - Hull services as far as SBY)
Leeds to Skipton
Leeds to Ilkley
Guiseley to Bradford Forster Square (completes Leeds to Bradford FS and Bradford FS to Ilkley and Skipton)
Leeds to Manchester Victoria via Bradford Interchange
Leeds to Manchester Victoria via Dewsbury
Huddersfield to Leeds/Bradford Interchange/Castleford
Leeds to Sheffield via Castleford
Leeds to Sheffield via Moorthorpe

Diversionary Routes:
Aldwarke Junction to Holmes Junction (avoiding Rotherham Central for LDS - SHF via MTH services)
Greetland Junction to Dryclough Junction
Bradley Junction to Bradley Wood Junction

Once Conductors move into the higher links new routes are added. Some are dependant on whether you are on the "a" side or "b" side.

Link 3
Leeds to Doncaster
Leeds to Knottingley
Leeds to York via Knaresborough

Link 2
York to Blackpool North via Preston
Leeds to Goole
Sheffield to Huddersfield

Link 1
Leeds to Carlisle (Settle & Carlisle Line)
Leeds to Nottingham via Sheffield

Liverpool Lime Street:
Traction: 150/1, 150/2, 156, 195, 319, 323, 331

Liverpool to Manchester via Warrington Central
Liverpool to Manchester via Earlestown (Oxford Road & Victoria)
Liverpool to Wigan, Preston, Blackpool North via St Helens Central and Golborne
Manchester to Manchester Airport
Earlestown to Chester via Warrington BQ
Helsby to Ellesmere Port
Liverpool South Parkway to Helsby via Runcorn

Manchester Piccadilly:
Traction: 150/1, 150/2, 156, 195, 319, 323, 331, 769 (soon)

Manchester to Sheffield via Marple or Stockport
Manchester to Rose Hill Marple
Manchester to Glossop/Hadfield
Manchester to Crewe via Stockport, or via Manchester Airport/Styal
Manchester to Stoke-on-Trent
Manchester to Buxton (link dependant)
Manchester to Liverpool Lime St via Warrington Central
Manchester to Chester via Altrincham

Manchester Victoria:
Traction: 150/0, 150/1, 150/2, 156, 158, 195, 319, 331, 769 (soon)

Manchester to Wigan via Atherton or Bolton or Chat Moss
Wigan Wallgate to Kirkby
Wigan Wallgate to Southport
Liverpool Lime St to Blackpool North via St Helens Central
Liverpool Lime Street to Manchester via Newton-le-Willows
Manchester to Chester via Warrington BQ
Manchester to Clitheroe via Darwen
Manchester to Blackburn via Todmorden
Manchester to Leeds via Brighouse
Manchester to Leeds via Bradford Interchange
Manchester to Blackpool North via Chorley
Salford Crescent to Manchester Airport
Manchester to Hazel Grove
Manchester Victoria to Stalybridge
Ordsall Chord
Newton Heath TMD
Stockport to Stalybridge via Guide Bridge (parlimentiary service, link dependant)

Middlesbrough:
Traction: 156, 158

Bishop Auckland to Saltburn
Middlesbrough to Whitby
Middlesbrough to Newcastle via Durham Coast
Middlesbrough to Newcastle via ECML

Newcastle:
Traction: 156, 158

Bishop Auckland to Saltburn
Middlesbrough to Newcastle via Durham Coast
Middlesbrough to Nunthorpe
Middlesbrough to Newcastle via ECML
Newcastle to Carlisle
Newcastle to Chathill

Sheffield:
Traction (all links): 150/0*, 150/1, 150/2, 158, 170, and 195

Links 3 & 4
Sheffield - Lincoln Central
Sheffield - Leeds via Moorthorpe
Sheffield - Leeds via Castleford (also via Altofts/Methley Junctions for express services)
Sheffield - Doncaster via Rotherham Masborough and Rotherham Central
Sheffield - Huddersfield
Doncaster - Adwick
Doncaster - Hull
Doncaster - Scunthorpe*
Gainsborough Trent Junction - Gainsborough Central
Retford North Junction - Retford High Level
Adwick - Skellow Junction

Links 1 & 2
As above plus:
Sheffield - Nottingham via Lenton Junction
Moorthorpe - York*
Gainsborough Central - Cleethorpes* (mainly link 1)

Diversions
Links 3 & 4
Aldwarke Junction - Mexborough via Kilnhurst
Hare Park - Turners Lane
Wakefield Westgate - Wakefield Kirkgate
Woodburn Junction - Rotherham Central

Links 1 & 2
As above plus:
Chesterfield - Nottingam via Derby
Woodhouse - Chesterfield via Beighton
Trowell Junction - Nottingham via Toton


* these are coming in for Dec 22 tt change

Skipton:
Traction: 158, 331, 333. They also sign 150/1, 150/2 and 195, though they have no booked work.

Leeds to Carlisle and Morecambe
Leeds to Bradford Forster Square, Ilkley and Skipton
Bradford Forster Square to Skipton
Esholt Jct. to Dockfield Jct.

Wigan Wallgate:
Traction: 150/0, 150/1, 150/2, 156, 158, 195, 319, 331, 769

Manchester to Wigan via Atherton or Bolton
Wigan Wallgate to Kirkby
Wigan Wallgate to Southport
Liverpool Lime St to Blackpool North via St Helens Central or Newton-le-Willows
Liverpool Lime Street to Manchester via Newton-le-Willows
Manchester to Blackburn via Todmorden
Manchester to Blackpool North via Chorley/Parkside Junction
Salford Crescent to Manchester Airport
Manchester Victoria to Stalybridge
Lancaster to Barrow-in-Furness (link dependant)
Preston to Morecambe (link dependent)

Workington:
Traction: 156 ONLY

Lancaster to Carlisle via Barrow-in-Furness Cumbrian Coast

York:
Traction: 150, 156, 158, 170, 195

York to Hull (via ECML and Sherburn)
York to Leeds (via Harrogate and Garforth)
Leeds to Hull
Leeds to Manchester Victoria (via Bradford Interchange and Dewsbury)

Spoiler: Northern Irish Railways

-

Spoiler: Scotrail

Aberdeen:
Traction: 158, 170, HST.

Aberdeen to Edinburgh
Aberdeen to Inverness
Dundee to Queen St via Stirling and Croy
Fife Circle

Ayr:
Traction: 156 ONLY

Ayr to Glasgow Central via Kilmarnock
Ayr to Glasgow Central via Paisley (diversionary)
Ayr to Stranraer
Kilmarnock to Carlisle
Central to East Kilbride

Dumfries:
Traction: 156 ONLY

Central to East Kilbride
Carlisle to Glasgow Central via Barrhead

Dundee:
Traction: 158, 170, HST.

Dundee to Aberdeen
Dundee to Edinburgh
Dundee to Perth
Fife Circle
Perth to Ladybank Jn

Edinburgh:
Traction: 158, 170, 380, 385, HST.

Edinburgh to North Berwick/Dunbar (Berwick Upon Tweed is in the pipeline as well)
Edinburgh to Tweedbank
Edinburgh Suburban Line (that may have been removed)
Haymarket Shed (that may have been removed)

Edinburgh to Dundee via Cupar
Edinburgh to Perth via Ladybank.
Edinburgh to Fife Circle inc Inverkeithing and Thornton triangles (Levenmouth to be added in the coming years)
Dalmeny to Winchburgh jn cord.

Edinburgh to Dunblane
Edinburgh to Queen Street via Falkirk High
Edinburgh to Queen Street via Cumbernaud and Stepps and Springburn
Edinburgh to Glasgow Central via Shotts (no diversionary routes)
Glasgow Queen Street to Dunblane via both Cumbernauld and Greenhill upper jn

All 4 links sign all the above routes

Edinburgh Guards do not sign Dunblane to Perth, Perth to Dundee, or Dundee to Aberdeen, these routes were removed some years ago. A decision not popular at the time as Edinburgh men have always went to Aberdeen (mileage job back in the day) and was handy for diversions.
Edinburgh men also do not sign Edinburgh t Glasgow central via Carstairs and Motherwell.

Fort William:
Traction: 156 ONLY

Fort William to Crianlarich

Glasgow Central:
Traction: 156, 158, 380, 385.

Central to Carlisle via Barrhead
Central to East Kilbride
Central to Edinburgh via Carstairs
Central to Edinburgh via Shotts

Glasgow Queen St:
Traction: 153, 156, 158, 170, 385, HST.

Queen St to Anniesland
Queen St to Edinburgh via Falkirk High
Queen St to Edinburgh via Grahamston / Cumbernauld
Queen St to Oban
Queen St to Perth
Stirling to Alloa
Larbert Jn to Polmont Jn

Inverness:
Traction: 158, 170, HST.

Inverness to Aberdeen
Inverness to Kyle of Lochalsh
Inverness to Perth
Inverness to Wick

Kyle of Lochalsh:
Traction: 158 ONLY

Kyle of Lochalsh to Inverness

Oban:
Traction: 153, 156

Oban to Queen Street via Crainlarich

Mallaig:
Traction: 156

Mallaig to Fort William
Fort William to Crianlarich

Perth:
Traction: 158, 170, HST. No electrics, E&G lost as a result.

Dundee to Edinburgh
Fife Circle
Perth to Aberdeen
Perth to Inverness
Perth to Queen St (via Croy only)
Hilton Jn to Ladybank Jn
Larbert Jn - Edinburgh


Stirling:
Traction: 156, 158, 170, 385. No HSTs.

Stirling to Alloa
Queen St to Anniesland
Stirling to Dunblane
Queen St to Edinburgh via Cumbernauld
Queen St to Edinburgh via Falkirk High
Stirling to Queen St
Larbert Jn to Polmont Jn

I believe they have lost Dunblane to Perth, which they barely ever went over anyway.

Stranraer:
Traction: 156 ONLY

Central to East Kilbride
Stranraer to Glasgow Central via Kilmarnock

Wick:
Traction: 158 ONLY

Wick to Inveness
Georgemas Junction to Thurso

Spoiler: Southeastern

Ashford:
Traction: 375, 377, 465
London Victoria / Blackfrairs / Charing Cross / Cannon Street to Petts Wood via Herne Hill / Catford Loop / Bromley South / Grove Park
London Victoria / Blackfrairs / Charing Cross / Cannon Street to St Mary Cray via Herne Hill / Catford Loop / Bromley South / Grove Park
Petts Wood to Ashford via Tonbridge
St Mary Cray to Ashford via Bat and Ball / Tonbridge
St Mary Cray to Ashford via Maidstone East
Tonbridge to Strood via Maidstone West
Tonbridge to Tunbridge Wells
Ashford to Ramsgate via Canterbury West
Ashford to Dover via Folkestone and Canterbury West
Dover to Ramsgate

Dover
Traction: 375, 377, 465
London Victoria / Blackfrairs / Charing Cross / Cannon Street to Petts Wood via Herne Hill / Catford Loop / Bromley South / Grove Park
London Victoria / Blackfrairs / Charing Cross / Cannon Street to St Mary Cray via Herne Hill / Catford Loop / Bromley South / Grove Park
Petts Wood to Ashford via Tonbridge
St Mary Cray to Ashford via Bat and Ball / Tonbridge
St Mary Cray to Ashford via Maidstone East
St Mary Cray to Ramsgate via Faversham
Ashford to Ramsgate via Canterbury West
Ashford to Dover via Folkestone and Canterbury West
Faversham to Dover via Canterbury East
Dover to Ramsgate

Faversham
Traction: 375, 377, 465
London Victoria / Blackfrairs / Charing Cross / Cannon Street to St Mary Cray via Herne Hill / Catford Loop / Bromley South / Grove Park
St Mary Cray to Ramsgate via Faversham
Faversham to Dover via Canterbury East
Sittinbourne to Sheerness

Gillingham:
Traction: 375, 377, 465
London Victoria / Blackfrairs / Charing Cross / Cannon Street to St Mary Cray via Herne Hill / Catford Loop / Bromley South / Grove Park
St Mary Cray to Ramsgate via Faversham
St Mary Cray to Maidstone East via Otford
Tonbridge to Strood via Maidstone West
Faversham to Dover via Canterbury East
Sittinbourne to Sheerness

Hastings:
Traction: 375, 377, 465

London Charing Cross / Cannon Street to St Mary Cray via Grove Park
London Charing Cross / Cannon Street to Petts Wood via Grove Park
London Bridge to Petts Wood / St Mary Cray via Catford Bridge & Beckenham Junction (diversionary)
Petts Wood to Tonbridge via Orpington and Sevenoaks
St Mary Cray to Tonbridge via Otford and Sevenoaks
Tonbridge to Ore via Tunbridge Wells and Hastings
Tonbridge to Redhill (diversionary)
Redhill to London Bridge via East Croydon (diversionary)

Ramsgate:
Traction: 375, 377, 465
London Victoria / Blackfrairs / Charing Cross / Cannon Street to Petts Wood via Herne Hill / Catford Loop / Bromley South / Grove Park
London Victoria / Blackfrairs / Charing Cross / Cannon Street to St Mary Cray via Herne Hill / Catford Loop / Bromley South / Grove Park
Petts Wood to Ashford via Tonbridge
St Mary Cray to Ashford via Bat and Ball / Tonbridge
St Mary Cray to Ashford via Maidstone East
St Mary Cray to Ramsgate via Faversham & Margate
Ashford to Ramsgate via Canterbury West
Ashford to Dover via Folkestone and Canterbury West
Dover to Ramsgate
Faversham to Dover via Canterbury East

Tonbridge:
Traction: 375, 377, 465

London Victoria / Blackfrairs / Charing Cross / Cannon Street to Petts Wood via Herne Hill / Catford Loop / Bromley South / Grove Park
London Victoria / Blackfrairs / Charing Cross / Cannon Street to St Mary Cray via Herne Hill / Catford Loop / Bromley South / Grove Park
London Bridge to Petts Wood / St Mary Cray via Catford Bridge & Beckenham Junction (diversionary)
Petts Wood to Ashford via Tonbridge
St Mary Cray to Ashford via Bat and Ball / Tonbridge
St Mary Cray to Ashford via Maidstone East
Ashford to Ramsgate via Canterbury West
Ashford to Dover via Folkestone and Canterbury West
Tonbridge to Strood via Maidstone West
Tonbridge to Ore via Tunbridge Wells and Hastings
Dover to Ramsgate
Tonbridge to Redhill (diversionary)
Redhill to London Bridge via East Croydon (diversionary)

Spoiler: Southern

Eastbourne:
Traction: 171

Eastbourne to Ashford

Selhurst:
Traction: 171, 377, 387

London Bridge- to Uckfield via Forest Hill, East Croydon and Oxted
Clapham Junction to Hemel Hempstead via Kensington Olympia and the WCML.
Norwood Junction to London Bridge via Crystal Palace, Tulse Hill and Peckham Rye
East Croydon to London Victoria via Norbury
Streatham Common to Imperial Wharf via Tulse Hill, Herne Hill, Brixton and Factory Junction.
Oxted to East Grinstead (for when Uckfield trains are diverted to East Grinstead)

OBS Depots: London Victoria, East Croydon, Horsham, Barnham, Brighton, Eastbourne
Traction: 377

OBS have no official route or traction knowledge, although may be focussed on certain areas.

Spoiler: South Western Railway (SWR)

Note: SWR has two types of guards: "Commercial Guards" who sell and check tickets on all routes and "Metro Guards" who do not work mostly suburban routes only. Strawberry Hill and Wimbledon depots have Metro Guards only. The other depots around London (including Guildford and Staines) have links for both. Depots outside London have Commercial Guards only.

Basingstoke:
Traction:158/159 (both Link dependant), 444, 450

Waterloo to Southampton Central via Surbiton and Feltham (including Hounslow loop)
Eastleigh to Portsmouth Harbour
Pirbright Junction to Alton
Fareham to Southampton
Wimbledon to Wandsworth Town via East Putney
Basingstoke to Salisbury
Reading to Basingstoke (Link dependent)

Bournemouth:
Traction: 444, 450

Weymouth - Waterloo via Basingstoke and Haslemere.
Brockenhurst - Lymington Pier
Cosham/Farlington Jct - Portsmouth Harbour (link dependant)

Farnham:
Traction: 444, 450, 458.

Waterloo to Basingstoke
Pirbright Junction to Alton
Waterloo to Guildford (via Cobham)
Woking to Haslemere (via Worplesdon)
Waterloo to Reading (via Hounslow & Richmond)
Aldershot to Ascot
Aldershot to Guildford
Whitton Curve

Fratton:
Traction:444, 450

Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour (via Basingstoke and Haslemere)
Fareham to Southampton via Netley
St Denys to Eastleigh
Southampton to Poole
Guildford to Surbiton via Cobham

Guildford:
Traction: 444, 450, 455, 456. 701 in the future.

Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour (via Worplesdon)
Waterloo to Chessington South
Waterloo to Leatherhead
Waterloo to Guildford (via Cobham)
Pirbright Junction to Alton
Leatherhead to Dorking / Guildford
Waterloo to Hampton Court
Aldershot to Ascot
Aldershot to Guildford

Ryde St John’s Road (Isle of Wight):
Traction: 484

Ryde to Shanklin

Salisbury:
Traction: 158/159

Waterloo to Exeter St Davids via Andover and Southampton Central
Romsey to Eastleigh via Chandler’s Ford
Salisbury to Westbury (diversionary route to Yeovil via Castle Cary)
Basingstoke to Reading

Strawberry Hill:
Traction: 444, 450, 455, 458, 707. 701 in future.

Waterloo to Woking
Waterloo to Hampton Court
Waterloo to Chessington South
Waterloo to Shepperton via Richmond and Wimbledon, and the Kingston Loop
Waterloo to Reading via Richmond and Hounslow, and the Hounslow Loop
Staines to Windsor
Virginia Water to Weybridge
Strawberry Hill Depot

Staines:
Traction: 444, 450, 455, 458, 701 in future.

Waterloo to Woking
Waterloo to Hampton Court
Waterloo via Richmond and Wimbledon and (Kingston Loop)
Waterloo to Reading via Richmond and Hounslow, and the Hounslow Loop
Staines to Windsor
Virginia Water to Weybridge

Waterloo:
Traction:
444, 450, 455, 458, 707. 701 in future. 158/159 Commercial Guards Only, Link Dependant.

Waterloo to Guildford via Cobham, Epsom, Woking
Waterloo to Hampton Court
Waterloo to Dorking
Waterloo to Chessington South
Waterloo to Shepperton via Richmond and Wimbledon, and the Kingston Loop
Waterloo to Windsor via Richmond and Hounslow, and the Hounslow Loop.
Staines to Weybridge/Byfleet & New Haw
Virginia Water to Reading
Woking to Poole (Commercial Guards Only)
Woking to Alton (Commercial Guards Only)
Guildford to Portsmouth Harbour (Commercial Guards Only)
Basingstoke to Salisbury (Commercial Guards Only, Link Dependant)
Clapham Yard (Non-Commercial Guards Only)
Wimbledon Park Depot (Non-Commercial Guards Only)

Weymouth:
Traction: 444, 450

Weymouth - Waterloo via Basingstoke


Wimbledon:
Traction: 444, 450, 455, 458, 707. 701 in future.

Waterloo to Guildford via Cobham, Epsom, Woking
Waterloo to Hampton Court
Waterloo to Dorking
Waterloo to Chessington South
Waterloo to Shepperton via Richmond and Wimbledon, and the Kingston Loop
Waterloo to Windsor/Weybridge/Byfleet & New Haw via Richmond and Hounslow, and the Hounslow Loop
Wimbledon Park Depot
Clapham Yard

Woking:
Traction: 444, 450, 455, 458, 707. 701 in future.

Waterloo to Alton
Waterloo to Ascot (via Hounslow & Richmond)
Waterloo to Basingstoke
Waterloo to Chessington South
Waterloo to Hampton Court
Waterloo to Guildford (via Cobham)
Waterloo to Guildford (via Epsom)
Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour (via Haslemere)
Weybridge/Byfleet & New Haw - Chertsey - Virginia Water
Aldershot to Ascot
Aldershot to Guildford
Addlestone to New Haw ("Byfleet Curve")
Hounslow to Whitton ("Whitton Curve")
New Malden to Twickenham (Kingston Loop)

Yeovil Junction:
Traction: 158/159

Exeter to Yeovil then Salisbury and London Waterloo
Salisbury to Westbury (diversionary route to Yeovil via Castle Cary)
Westbury to Frome and Yeovil

Spoiler: Transpennine Express (TPE)

Cleethorpes:
Traction: 185

Cleethorpes-Doncaster via Scunthorpe
Doncaster-Sheffield via Swinton
Mexborough Jn-Aldwarke Jn via Thrybergh Jn
Aldwarke Jn-Holmes Jn via Rotherham Central
Sheffield-Manchester Oxford Road via Stockport
New Mills South Jn-Ardwick Jn via Romiley


Glasgow Central:
Traction: 397, 802

Carlisle-Preston via Oxenholme
Edinburgh-Newcastle via Berwick
Carlisle-Edinburgh via Haymarket
Glasgow Central-Carstairs South Jn via Cambuslang & Motherwell
Law Jn-Shieldmuir via Wishaw
Wishaw-Uddingston via Holytown
Motherwell-Rutherglen East Jn via Whifflet
Glasgow Central-Newton East Jn via Mount Florida
Motherwell-Bellshill


Hull:
Traction: 185

Hull-Leeds via Selby
Leeds-Selby via Methley Jn & Milford Jn
Manchester Picc-Leeds via Marsden & Dewsbury


Liverpool Lime Street:
Traction: 185, 802

Liverpool L St-Manchester Vic via Newton-le-Willows
Edge Hill-Manchester Airport via Warrington Central
Manchester Picc-York via Marsden, Dewsbury and Micklefield
Miles Platting-Heaton Lodge via Hebden Bridge
Salford Central-Water Street Jn (Ordsall Chord)
Salford Crescent-Manchester Victoria (direct)
Salford Crescent-Deansgate
Philips Park West Jn-Ashburys
Leeds-York via Methley Jn & Castleford
York-Newcastle via Durham & HLB/KEB
York-Scarborough


Manchester Airport:
Traction: 185, 397

Manchester Airport-Carlisle via Chorley, Preston & Oxenholme
Manchester Picc-York via Guide Bridge, Marsden, Dewsbury & Micklefield
Manchester Picc-Sheffield via Stockport & Hazel Grove
Leeds-Hull via Selby
Stalybridge-Liverpool L St via Manchester Vic & Newton-le-Willows
York-Scarborough
Carlisle-Edinburgh via Haymarket
Manchester Picc-Liverpool L St via Warrington Central
Manchester Vic-Deansgate via Ordsall Chord
Deansgate-Salford Crescent
Manchester Vic-Salford Crescent (direct)
Manchester Vic-Mirfield via Hebden Bridge
Huddersfield-Brighouse
Parkside Jn-Euxton Jn via Golborne Jn
Leeds-York via Methley Jn & Castleford
Huddersfield-Leeds via Wakefield Kirkgate
Philips Park West Jn-Ashburys

Manchester Piccadilly:
Traction: 185

Manchester Picc-Manchester Airport
Manchester Picc-York via Guide Bridge, Marsden, Dewsbury & Micklefield
Manchester Picc-Stalybridge via Ordsall Chord & Manchester Vic
Manchester Victoria-Liverpool Lime St via Newton-le-Willows
Manchester Picc-Liverpool Lime St via Warrington Central
Leeds-Hull via Selby
Manchester Vic-Mirfield via Hebden Bridge
Leeds-York via Methley Jn & Castleford
Huddersfield-Leeds via Wakefield Kirkgate
Gascoigne Wood Jn-Milford Jn
Huddersfield-Brighouse
Salford Crescent-Manchester Victoria (direct)
Salford Crescent-Deansgate

Newcastle:
Traction: 185, 802

Newcastle-Manchester Picc via KEB/HLB, Durham, Micklefield, Dewsbury, Marsden & Guide Bridge
Newcastle-Edinburgh via Berwick
Manchester Vic-Manchester Airport via Ordsall Chord
Stalybridge-Liverpool L St via Manchester Vic & Newton-le-Willows
Northallerton-Middlesbrough via Yarm
Darlington-Eaglescliffe via Dinsdale
Salford Crescent-Manchester Victoria (direct)
Salford Crescent-Deansgate

Preston:
Traction: 397, 802

Preston-Edinburgh via Oxenholme, Carlisle & Haymarket
Carstairs South Jn-Glasgow Central via Motherwell & Cambuslang
Preston-Manchester Airport via Chorley & Manchester Picc
Preston-Liverpool L St via Wigan NW & St Helens Central
Wigan NW-Deansgate via Golborne Jn
Huyton-Lowton Jn via Newton-le-Willows
Ordsall Lane Jn-Manchester Victoria
Newton East Jn-Glasgow Central via Mount Florida


Scarborough:
Traction: 185

Scarborough-Manchester Airport via York, Micklefield, Dewsbury, Marsden, Manchester Vic & Ordsall Chord
York-Newcastle via Durham & HLB/KEB
Manchester Vic-Liverpool L St via Newton-le-Willows
Northallerton-Redcar Central via Yarm
Stalybridge-Manchester Picc via Guide Bridge
Darlington-Eaglescliffe via Dinsdale
York-Leeds via Castleford and Methley Jn
Longlands Jn-Northallerton East Jn via Boroughbridge LC
Deansgate-Salford Crescent
Manchester Vic-Salford Crescent (direct)

Sheffield:

Traction: 185

Sheffield-Manchester Picc via Stockport
Sheffield-Doncaster via Meadowhall & Swinton
Doncaster-Cleethorpes via Scunthorpe
Manchester Picc-Manchester Airport
Manchester Picc-Liverpool Lime St via Warrington Central
Sheffield-Manchester Picc via Moorthorpe, Wakefield K, Huddersfield & Guide Bridge
New Mills South Jn-Ardwick Jn via Reddish North
Holmes Jn-Aldwarke Jn via Rotherham Central
Aldwarke Jn-Mexborough Jn via Thrybergh Jn
Nunnery Main Line Jn-Rotherham Central via Woodburn Jn
Crofton Depot

York:
Traction: 185, 802 (some)

York-Manchester Picc via Micklefield, Dewsbury, Marsden & Guide Bridge
York-Newcastle via Durham & KEB/HLB
York-Redcar Central via Yarm
York-Scarborough
Stalybridge-Manchester Airport via Manchester Vic & Ordsall Chord
Manchester Vic-Liverpool L St via Newton-le-Willows
Darlington-Eaglescliffe via Dinsdale
York-Leeds via Castleford & Methley Jn
Leeds-Huddersfield via Wakefield Kirkgate
Mirfield-Manchester Victoria via Hebden Bridge
Huddersfield-Brighouse
Longlands Jn-Northallerton East Jn via Boroughbridge LC
Deansgate-Salford Crescent
Manchester Vic-Salford Crescent (direct)

Spoiler: Transport for Wales (TfW)

Cardiff Central (Mainline):
Traction: 67/MK4, 150, 153, 158, 170, 175, 197

Cardiff to Swansea to Carmarthen to Milford Haven
Cardiff to Bridgend via Barry
Cardiff to Shrewsbury
Cardiff to Ebbw Vale Town
Bridgend to Llanelli via Swansea District line
Bridgend to Maesteg
Cardiff to Shrewsbury
Shrewsbury to Chester including Crewe triangle
Newport to Cheltenham Spa

Cardiff Central (Valleys):
Traction: 150, 153

Cardiff Central to Barry Island/Penarth
Cardiff Central to Rhymney
Cardiff Queen Street to Pontypridd
Cardiff Queen Street to Cardiff Bay
Pontypridd to Treherbert/Aberdare/Merthyr Tydfil
Radyr - Cardiff to Coryton City Line

Carmarthen:
Traction: 150, 153, 158, 175, 197

Carmarthen to Milford Haven/Fishguard Harbour/Pembroke Dock
Carmarthen to Swansea to Cardiff
Llanelli to Bridgend via Swansea District line
Llanelli to Llandrindrod Wells

Chester:
Chester: Traction: 150, 153, 158,175, 197, 230.

Chester to Holyhead/Llandudno
Chester to Manchester Airport (via Warrington Bank Quay only)
Chester to Liverpool Lime Street
Chester to Crewe including Shrewsbury triangle
Shrewsbury to Birmingham International (via Stour only)
Wrexham Central to Bidston

Crewe:
Traction: 150, 153, 158, 175, 197 (training due to start imminently).

Crewe to Manchester Piccadilly three-ways (via Wilmslow via Styal, via Warrington Bank Quay)
Crewe to Chester including Shrewsbury Triangle
Shrewsbury to Cardiff Central
Craven Arms to Llanwrtyd
Shrewsbury to Birmingham International (via Stour)

Holyhead:
Traction: 67/MK4, 150, 153, 158, 175, 197

Holyhead to Chester
Chester to Crewe
Chester to Manchester Airport (via Warrington Bank Quay only)
Llandudno to Llandudno Junction and Blaneau Ffestiniog

Llandudno:
Traction: 150, 153, 158, 175, 197

Holyhead to Chester
Chester to Crewe
Chester to Liverpool Lime Street
Chester to Manchester Airport (via Warrington Bank Quay only)
Llandudno to Llandudno Junction then Blaneau Ffestiniog

Machynlleth:
Traction: 158, 197

Aberystwyth to Machnylleth and Shrewsbury
Dovey Junction to Pwllheli
Shrewsbury to Birmingham International (via Stour only)

Pwllheli:
Traction: 158, 197

Aberystwyth to Machnylleth and Shrewsbury
Dovey Junction to Pwllheli

Rhymney:
Traction: 150, 153, 769

Cardiff Central to Barry Island/Penarth
Cardiff Central to Rhymney
Cardiff Queen Street to Cardiff Bay
Cardiff Queen Street to Pontypridd
Pontypridd to Treherbert/Aberdare/Merthyr Tydfil
Radyr to Cardiff and Coryton City Line

Shrewsbury:
Traction: 67/MK4, 150, 153, 158, 175, 197, 230

Shrewsbury to Chester and Crewe triangle
Shrewsbury to Birmingham International (via Stour)
Shrewsbury to Aberystwyth
Shrewsbury to Cardiff Central
Craven Arms to Llanwrtyd
Wrexham Central to Bidston

Treherbert:
Traction: 150, 153

Cardiff Central to Barry Island/Penarth
Cardiff Central to Rhymney
Cardiff Queen Street to Cardiff Bay
Cardiff Queen Street to Pontypridd
Pontypridd to Treherbert/Aberdare/Merthyr Tydfil
Radyr to Cardiff and Coryton City Line

Spoiler: West Midlands Trains (WMT) & LNWR

Birmingham New Street:
Traction: 196 (link dependent), 323, 350, 730

Birmingham New Street to - Northampton (might be Coventry)
Birmingham New Street to- Wolverhampton
Birmingham New Street to Rugeley TV
Redditch/Bromsgrove to Lichfield
Birmingham New Street to Liverpool (after a while)
Birmingham New Street to Shrewsbury (after a while)

Bletchley:
Traction:
319, 350

London Euston - Birmingham New Street (both via and avoiding Northampton)
Bletchley - Bedford

Coventry:
Traction: 196, 323, 350, 730

Coventry to Leamington
Coventry to Nuneaton
Coventry to Northampton
Coventry to Birmingham New Street
Birmingham New Street to Wolverhampton
Birmingham New Street to Walsall
Cross City Line

Crewe:
Traction: 350

Crewe to Liverpool Lime Street
Crewe to Birmingham New Street (via Stour and Bescot)
Crewe to Stafford via Stoke on Trent
Stafford to Rugby via Trent Valley
Rugby to London Euston via Weedon and Northampton
(Guards used to sign Birmingham to Rugby strictly for diversions only, not sure if that's still the case).

Northampton
Traction: 350

Northampton - London Euston
Northampton - Birmingham New Street
Rugby - Milton Keynes Central (avoiding Northampton)
Rugby - Crewe

Shrewsbury:
Traction: 196

Shrewsbury to Wolverhampton.
Wolverhampton to Birmingham New Street via all reasonable diversions
Birmingham New Street to Walsall via Aston and Soho East

Watford Junction
Traction: 350

Northampton - London Euston
Watford Junction - St Albans Abbey

Wolverhampton
Traction: 323, 350, 730

Shrewsbury to Wolverhampton
Wolverhampton to Birmingham New Street
Wolverhampton to Stafford
Stafford to Liverpool Lime Street
Birmingham New Street to Bromsgrove
Birmingham New Street to Lichfield Trent Valley
Birmingham New Street to Rugeley Trent Valley
Birmingham New Street to Birmingham International

Worcester:
Traction: 172, 196

Hereford to Droitwich Spa / Worcester Shrub Hill
Droitwich Spa to Dorridge via Kidderminster / Birmingham Snow Hill
Droitwich Spa to Birmingham New Street via Bromsgrove/University
Dorridge to Stratford upon Avon via Claverdon
Smethwick Galton Bridge to Birmingham New Street
Tyseley to Stratford-On-Avon
Tyseley Depot

For Staines guards on SWR, do the commercial and metro guards sign the same route cards or which do each of them do from that depot? Many thanks

 

[RJM]

For Staines guards on SWR, do the commercial and metro guards sign the same route cards or which do each of them do from that depot? Many thanks

Same route card for both metro and commercial.

 

[Scotrail84]

Update for ScotRail

Edinburgh guards now sign Leven (link specific to begin with).

Perth guards now sign Leven.

Leven guards sign to Edinburgh via Kirkcaldy and via Dunfermline. They also sign the E + G as well as up to Dunblane. Traction 158/170/385

 

[AMD]

Northern updates for the west side -
319s can be removed from all relevant depots.
769s now only signed by Manchester Victoria & Wigan (Liverpool drivers also sign, link specific)
323s have been added to Wigan traction card, only one link initially, all links for December TT change
Blackburn don't sign Wigan to Southport

 

[Ashley Hill]

GWR HSS Exeter Train Managers now also sign Acton Main Line to Euston via Acton Wells Jct.
@_toommm_ so you can update your file.

 

[Babybirdrobin]

Merseyrail would be 777 included and 508 sadly removed and avanti need a traction update as some staff will now sign 805’s

 

[Tevion539]

On the 67s, this is signed by all Cardiff mainline guards now. However, they will often give newer guards a few months to settle before organising training for them. I also believe that the district line is no longer a requirement for Cardiff mainline guards. I wasn't required to learn it, and don't know many, if any that do. we also no longer sign 170/175s. Eventually the 231s will be coming over to mainline for use on local services.

Spoiler: Transport for Wales (TfW)

Cardiff Central (Mainline):
Traction: 67/MK4, 150, 153, 158, 170, 175, 197

Cardiff to Swansea to Carmarthen to Milford Haven
Cardiff to Bridgend via Barry
Cardiff to Shrewsbury
Cardiff to Ebbw Vale Town
Bridgend to Llanelli via Swansea District line
Bridgend to Maesteg
Cardiff to Shrewsbury
Shrewsbury to Chester including Crewe triangle
Newport to Cheltenham Spa

 

[43OO4]

Do guards ever get trained on routes not typically signed by that depot? Just applied for a guards role with TPE, so I'd like to know what the chances are I'll be able to revisit my primary Avanti haunt at Manchester

 

[Watershed]

Do guards ever get trained on routes not typically signed by that depot? Just applied for a guards role with TPE, so I'd like to know what the chances are I'll be able to revisit my primary Avanti haunt at Manchester

No, they will want to get you productive ASAP so unlikely you will sign any routes not required by your link. It is easier for guards than drivers to retain route knowledge but even so, the company won't pay for you to go on a jolly to retain unnecessary route knowledge.

 

[43OO4]

No, they will want to get you productive ASAP so unlikely you will sign any routes not required by your link. It is easier for guards than drivers to retain route knowledge but even so, the company won't pay for you to go on a jolly to retain unnecessary route knowledge.

Figured so much. Wishful thinking, eh?

 

[pompeyfan]

It’s not unheard of for guards to be seconded into a temporary project team that may involve learning additional stock and routes, but the guards they pick are usually “the good eggs”. Several at Fratton now sign 458/4s and 458/5s for example, so never say never.

 

[Watershed]

It’s not unheard of for guards to be seconded into a temporary project team that may involve learning additional stock and routes, but the guards they pick are usually “the good eggs”. Several at Fratton now sign 458/4s and 458/5s for example, so never say never.

Indeed. Can't imagine a new starter falling into that camp, although stranger things have happened.

 

[dodecahedron67]

At TPE I can tell you it is zero. Offered to sign something (CLC) extra as I’d got ahead on route learning and finished a week(ish) early and got told nope, even with the flexibility this would’ve given them if I was working a Lime St train and Chat Moss was blocked!

 

[Horizon22]

avanti need a traction update as some staff will now sign 805’s

Any idea which depots?

Generally, I have done a (long-overdue) edit, but it is quite intensive for us to keep an eye on. If anyone is willing to assist in helping keeping this route & traction thread up-to-date, please do let me know.

If there is still obviously outdated info (e.g. traction since withdrawn) also let me know - either by PM or a reply.

 

[Toby268]

Any idea which depots?

Generally, I have done a (long-overdue) edit, but it is quite intensive for us to keep an eye on. If anyone is willing to assist in helping keeping this route & traction thread up-to-date, please do let me know.

If there is still obviously outdated info (e.g. traction since withdrawn) also let me know - either by PM or a reply.

80x traction -

Drivers -

Liverpool
Holyhead
Euston
Wolverhampton
Preston link dependant

TMs -

Preston
Liverpool
Holyhead
Euston
Wolverhampton

 

[Urban Gateline]

Just a minor point that needs updating under SWR, 707's are all moved over to SE now, so no SWR depots sign 707 going forward.

 

[craigybagel]

Any idea which depots?

Generally, I have done a (long-overdue) edit, but it is quite intensive for us to keep an eye on. If anyone is willing to assist in helping keeping this route & traction thread up-to-date, please do let me know.

If there is still obviously outdated info (e.g. traction since withdrawn) also let me know - either by PM or a reply.

Avanti Glasgow no longer sign via Kilmarnock

Chiltern Stourbridge no longer sign Stourbridge - Kidderminster

LNER guards do not sign 08 or 67

TfW: nobody signs 175s or 769s any more. Cardiff Central (Valleys), Rhymney and Treherbert sign 231. Machynlleth and Pwllheli are due to sign 197s in future but no guards have done the training as yet. Shrewsbury and Crewe will lose Llandrindod - Llanwrtyd in December.

80x traction -

Drivers -

Liverpool
Holyhead
Euston
Wolverhampton
Preston link dependant

TMs -

Preston
Liverpool
Holyhead
Euston
Wolverhampton

Thanks, I'll get the drivers side updated

 

[Horizon22]

Just a minor point that needs updating under SWR, 707's are all moved over to SE now, so no SWR depots sign 707 going forward.

Do you know which depots sign / are signing 701s?

 

[TEW]

Do you know which depots sign / are signing 701s?

At present some links at Waterloo and Staines sign them. Wimbledon Park, Strawberry Hill, Woking, Guildford and Farnham will sign them in the future.