DaveNewcastle
Established Member
Then that is a very perverse way to express 'enthusiasm'
I'm a member of the general public (albeit with an interest in the railways). If I saw a train driver on a mobile I would consider it none of my business. If the train was moving I would assume that he was doing something railway related (after all he knows what is safe, not me); if it wasn't moving, I wouldn't care. Actually I would care if the train was delayed for some reason but I would also assume that he was on the phone to sort out the delay.
Unless I'm a driver I simply cannot know what is appropriate. However I can make a judgement on a company that refuses to let its employees phone home when it is reasonable to do so, and that judgement would not be complimentary.
Precisely because they have the medium to do it (internet forums) that never existed before. The interference in life has never been so close to us !And I, as a member of the public, would also think the same. I really think that some folk these days think they can poke their nose into everybody's business. A driver making a personal call at a station has nothing to do with anybody except the driver. Some people need to get a life.
Am I in the minority in not understanding the OP? They asked a question, citing "it has been suggested" and asking "what does everyone think?".
So I'm not entirely sure that the response given by those like S19 is justified. This is a place where views are aired and discussed. If you are going to quite spitefully criticise the OP and brand their thoughts ridiculous or alike, at least have the decency to not misunderstand them first.
And a contrite apology to all if the perceived intention of the OP was their original intent.
It's almost certainly happened several times by now.
Yes mainly by whinging folks on twitter who have not got a clue on how the raiway is and should be run
You appear to have missed the point in my post.You would be good material for a draconian driver manager....
It was a comparison on the similarities in the circumstances of where the train driver may use their phone, not how skilled the person is.So you're comparing a checkout operator in Asda with a highly specialised and skilled train driver? What planet are you on? Train drivers salaries would rival the the Asda managers salary (smaller stores)
No, not here. However it is a simple, humble opinion. I don't need any glorifying status or "weight" here - you seem to think that is important. I state what I think and enjoy participating in discussions about the railway.As for "in my opinion it looks unprofessional", its a good thing your opinion doesnt hold much weight then isnt it.
I agree. But therein lies the problem - people "outside of the loop" will and do pass judgement. There is no easy way to solve this as it is people's personal opinion.It's not up to people outside of the loop to pass judgement about "not looking professional" or such like.
The voice of someone who understands the issue rather than simply jumping to the same place as many other posters.There are two things getting mixed up here. Firstly, what are the rules. Secondly, what looks professional.
As for looking professional I'm afraid that we are never going to please all the people all the time. I remember not so long back a VERY heated discussion about wearing union ties which highlights this problem nicely.
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Well thats your opinion, fortunately for the rest of us those that actually matter don't seem to mind.
Well thats your opinion, fortunately for the rest of us those that actually matter don't seem to mind.
You would be amazed at what some people can claim to be offended by.
But don't you agree that it would look so very professional if the driver waiting on the platform had a Personal Assistant with them at all times to take their calls for them?
How was what I said taken as a personal attack? To put in a way you might understand better, your opinion on the matter (ie what looks professional or not) doesn't actually matter. Its the bosses opinions that count and they don't seem to mind the use of mobile phone while away from the cab.
The last time I was called up I took my own up for me and the Union chap (flask of tea and a packet of rich tea biscuits), didnt offer the Depot Manager any though!
He was a bit put off when I asked for a 2 minute adjournment so I could pour the tea, some people have no sense of humour!
On my previous interview I did say to him (the DM) that the next time I was called up for something stupid I would bring my own tea and biscuits so I was only keeping my word.
Please do tell me how AWS will prevent a train passing a signal at danger.
It won't and nor will TPWS
I know, I was being sarcastic
It won't and nor will TPWS
And nor will ATP in every circumstance, although it will stop you within the overlap.
Do you mean because of adverse railhead conditions ?
The last time I was called up I took my own up for me and the Union chap (flask of tea and a packet of rich tea biscuits), didnt offer the Depot Manager any though!
He was a bit put off when I asked for a 2 minute adjournment so I could pour the tea, some people have no sense of humour!
On my previous interview I did say to him (the DM) that the next time I was called up for something stupid I would bring my own tea and biscuits so I was only keeping my word.