Eurostar e320 / Class 374 "Velaro"

[SpacePhoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Q3R7NcZuA

A little noisy inside but I think that might have been filmed in the tunnel, don't know if them fluorescent yellow doors in the background are the fire doors

 

[jopsuk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Q3R7NcZuA

A little noisy inside but I think that might have been filmed in the tunnel, don't know if them fluorescent yellow doors in the background are the fire doors

You absolutely cannot tell how noisy it is from someone's video taken on a phone. The variables of the microphone quality, recording volume setting, upload volume setting and your playback volume setting entirely defeat any assessment

 

[Martin222002]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Q3R7NcZuA

A little noisy inside but I think that might have been filmed in the tunnel, don't know if them fluorescent yellow doors in the background are the fire doors

I'm not sure but I think that is actually the inside newly refurbished pair e300 class 373s, which would make sense given the 374s aren't in passenger service yet (as far as I'm aware).

 

[MCR247]

I'm pretty sure it is a 373, the windows on Velaros don't look like that AFAIK

 

[jon0844]

You absolutely cannot tell how noisy it is from someone's video taken on a phone. The variables of the microphone quality, recording volume setting, upload volume setting and your playback volume setting entirely defeat any assessment

It depends on the phone I guess. Many modern phones, with multiple mics, are quite incredible at recording audio and can be used in multiple environments (even concerts) with great results.

The bigger issue here is clearly whether it's the right train, and it would seem it's a 373 with the, rather incredible, refurbishment. With that interior, it seems crazy to think any trains would be removed from service and scrapped.

 

[33Hz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN7JWqCeNww

Seems loud in that video, does the noise change once it gets above a certain speed?

Clearly not just the roof then.

 

[edwin_m]

There was an e320 in St Pancras about 1115 on Monday and I passed another one going away from St Pancras near Ebbsfleet about 1330 today. Mind you today any resemblance to the timetable was purely coincidental - apparently the French also have cable thefts!

 

[Skimble19]

It depends on the phone I guess. Many modern phones, with multiple mics, are quite incredible at recording audio and can be used in multiple environments (even concerts) with great results.

The bigger issue here is clearly whether it's the right train, and it would seem it's a 373 with the, rather incredible, refurbishment. With that interior, it seems crazy to think any trains would be removed from service and scrapped.

Must admit I completely agree.. That interior, if it is the 373, is amazing compared to what they are now..!

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Must admit I completely agree.. That interior, if it is the 373, is amazing compared to what they are now..!

But it's also far too bright to possibly be comfortable on the eyes.

 

[jopsuk]

It depends on the phone I guess. Many modern phones, with multiple mics, are quite incredible at recording audio and can be used in multiple environments (even concerts) with great results.

true, but I think I can hear people turning the page on a newspaper in that... needs more easily identifiable noises to compare, plus it's in a tunnel!

 

[33Hz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Q3R7NcZuA

A little noisy inside but I think that might have been filmed in the tunnel, don't know if them fluorescent yellow doors in the background are the fire doors

That most definitely is a refurbished 373. Apart from the fact that 374s are not in service yet, there are many differences including the 374 having TV screens in the roof and luggage racks at intermediate locations along the coach.

See http://paulbigland.zenfolio.com/p1049835017/h17b1b6aa

http://paulbigland.zenfolio.com/p1049835017/h2b000924


I agree with the comments that it is too bright. One of the things I value about the current interiors is the subdued lighting and cosy nature of the seats. It now looks like the refurb FGW did a few years ago. Generic.

 

[talldave]

I see that some 374 carriages have two doors whilst most have one. Why is that?

 

[Bletchleyite]

I agree with the comments that it is too bright. One of the things I value about the current interiors is the subdued lighting and cosy nature of the seats. It now looks like the refurb FGW did a few years ago. Generic.

I don't agree. The lighting is a mix of indirect and spots, not at all like the horrid fGW direct daylight lighting.

 

[33Hz]

Got to St Pancras early, thought I would pop upstairs on the off chance and voila I was rewarded with this.

I thought I might get a closer look from the upstairs of the lounge, but unfortunately by the time I cleared security the adjacent platform was occupied.

It does look a bit like a snake that's eaten a mouse though

 

[gordonthemoron]

I see that some 374 carriages have two doors whilst most have one. Why is that?

probably inherited from ICE3, but I don't know why they have them either

 

[jopsuk]

Coach 2/15 has the 1st class Galley. Coach 8/9 has the Bar- these are the coaches with two sets of doors. Looking at ICE3/Velaro seating plans, it seems very operator dependent whether or not a carriage has one or two sets of doors.

 

[33Hz]

By the way, it pulled out of St P while I was still in the lounge. Still distinct and loud.

 

[hulabaloo]

Saw it belt past me on the Medway Bridge on Monday on the way to work.

So so quiet compared to its predecessor.

 

[absolutelymilk]

So when will the 374s be entering service?

 

[EM2]

So when will the 374s be entering service?

The first passenger run was supposed to be 12th November. Did it not run?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I thought it was 20th November onwards, not the 12th?

 

[RobShipway]

Last I read in any Rail magazines was that the start date for the e320's is 20th November 2015.

 

[Alfie1014]

Reported on Twitter (not by me) that the e320 entered passenger service today as planned. Launch probably kept low key in light of recent events.

 

[33Hz]

First e320 passenger trip en route now...

 

[Blamethrower]

I was at StP last week and there was an e320 loading passengers for Paris in what looked like a schedule service (9005 I think)

Yes it's new, yes it's nice, by my god it's lardy! Aside from the driving trailers, the windows and wheels are just lost in that fat bulk. Much prefer the old ICE3s, they look just a little less lardy.

 

[33Hz]

Following the news that an e320 worked the 10.24 on 20th November, is this a regularly diagrammed slot for it now?

 

[absolutelymilk]

I was at StP last week and there was an e320 loading passengers for Paris in what looked like a schedule service (9005 I think)

Yes it's new, yes it's nice, by my god it's lardy! Aside from the driving trailers, the windows and wheels are just lost in that fat bulk. Much prefer the old ICE3s, they look just a little less lardy.

What do you mean by lardy?

 

[gordonthemoron]

The Velaro-D is certainly taller than ICE-3, I presume e320 is the same

 

[davetheguard]

I was at StP last week and there was an e320 loading passengers for Paris in what looked like a schedule service (9005 I think)

Yes it's new, yes it's nice, by my god it's lardy! Aside from the driving trailers, the windows and wheels are just lost in that fat bulk. Much prefer the old ICE3s, they look just a little less lardy.

Hopefully it won't be "lardy" in its performance though (which I suppose would make it "tardy").

 

[notadriver]

It has about 26hp to the ton compared to 20hp to the ton for a 373.