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This may be a silly question but I wonder if anything will happen to the 63 and 20 now they'll be run by McGill's, as First will be reducing the frequencies and changing the times of these routes from next Monday. I was very disappointed to see changes to the 63 as I've often used that bus to get to Heriot Watt, and frustratingly they've changed the times so that bus arrives at the campus at 10 past the hour, which isn't very helpful for students like me who have classes beginning on the hour
 
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This may be a silly question but I wonder if anything will happen to the 63 and 20 now they'll be run by McGill's, as First will be reducing the frequencies and changing the times of these routes from next Monday. I was very disappointed to see changes to the 63 as I've often used that bus to get to Heriot Watt, and frustratingly they've changed the times so that bus arrives at the campus at 10 past the hour, which isn't very helpful for students like me who have classes beginning on the hour

It does seem a bit disingenuous of First to negotiate the one year extension with a skeleton timetable knowing they were selling the business - but what do customers matter I suppose if it adds a few £000s to the company value.

What can McGill's do to mitigate the driver shortage as their terms, pay and conditions are even less attractive than First for those joining on their contract?
 

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Wow. Knew something had to give but wouldn't have called this as the outcome!

I hope it works out for the better for the sake of the passengers and staff involved. Good luck McGills.

I also feel for whatever division of First will replace FSE as the "final stop before the scrapyard" for fleet!
 

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It’s a shame that the fleet is being sold from First. Some of those buses could’ve been moved elsewhere within the First operations. The E400MMCs could’ve gone to Glasgow or down south to replace the B7TLs and the StreetLites could’ve replaced older single deckers elsewhere.
 

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It’s a shame that the fleet is being sold from First. Some of those buses could’ve been moved elsewhere within the First operations. The E400MMCs could’ve gone to Glasgow or down south to replace the B7TLs and the StreetLites could’ve replaced older single deckers elsewhere.
Yes shame the E400MMCs will be transferring. It’s like when Go Ahead took over in Manchester - the newer E400s and Streetlites left with them and have since been rebranded for Go Ahead.
 

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It’s a shame that the fleet is being sold from First. Some of those buses could’ve been moved elsewhere within the First operations. The E400MMCs could’ve gone to Glasgow or down south to replace the B7TLs and the StreetLites could’ve replaced older single deckers elsewhere.
It has been suggested that the most recent E400MMC transfers from Glasgow, will be returning there prior to the sale. Otherwise, there is only a relatively small number of the type at FSE.
Regarding the Streetlites, I’d imagine McGill’s would be more than happy if they all stayed with First!! ;) :D
 

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Wow. Knew something had to give but wouldn't have called this as the outcome!

I hope it works out for the better for the sake of the passengers and staff involved. Good luck McGills.
Pretty sure the staff wont be too happy when they’re out involved in a bump or crash and have to pay out of their own wages…
 

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It has been suggested that the most recent E400MMC transfers from Glasgow, will be returning there prior to the sale. Otherwise, there is only a relatively small number of the type at FSE.
Regarding the Streetlites, I’d imagine McGill’s would be more than happy if they all stayed with First!! ;) :D
Where has this been suggested?

I wonder if McGills have realised just how many Streetlites they are acquiring :D
 

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It will be interesting to see if the McGill will go after the Fife school contracts Next summer when everything is retendered.

One would hope some small improvements could be made.
 

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This is some very exciting news indeed. I am hopeful that McGill's will significantly improve the bus services, as first haven't exactly been exemplary recently around here.
Even so, as a purely enthusiast point of view, the Eastern Scottish and Midland Bluebird branding along with McGill's being a semi-local independent rather than a massive corporation such as first, this is going to be interesting.
 

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I don't have any official evidence of this but I think the B7RLEs are probably better and more comfortable buses then the streetlites
Eh? Surely any decision on comfort can only be made by experiencing both. It's entirely subjective, and if you haven't experienced a B7RLE you cannot compare it to a Streetlite!
 

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Yes I guess so :D

I only said I didn't as some people don't accept personal experience as evidence
Fair enough, but in this case it's only your own hin' end that can determine what's comfortable or not, regardless of what anyone else says!

Anyhow, let's not get into seat-wibble! :D
 

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I messaged Ralph Roberts earlier; they already have the list of what they are acquiring and their new fleet numbers have already been allocated.

I would hope so! You don’t generally agree a price to buy a company without also agreeing on the specific assets being acquired!
 
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I would hope so! You don’t generally agree a price to buy a company without also agreeing on the specific assets being acquired!
The point was more aimed at the rumours of the e400s not transferring - it'll come out in the wash when the list is shared. The fact fleet numbers have already been prepared shows the advanced level of preparedness.
 

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I would hope so! You don’t generally agree a price to buy a company without also agreeing on the specific assets being acquired!
One of the first bus disposal press releases says all buses are transferring and another version posted in a different place says over 200 buses are transferring.
 

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The point was more aimed at the rumours of the e400s not transferring - it'll come out in the wash when the list is shared. The fact fleet numbers have already been prepared shows the advanced level of preparedness.

Which mean Ralph has been in control for the past two months then, which makes you wonder did he want to give up the Council contracts 20,63,68? Plus was he behind the cuts on route 51/52?

One of the first bus disposal press releases says all buses are transferring and another version posted in a different place says over 200 buses are transferring.
Do you have a link to either piece?
 
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Which mean Ralph has been in control for the past two months then, which makes you wonder did he wont to give up the Council contracts 20,63,68. Plus was he behide the cuts on route 51/52
I don't think that means that Ralph has been in charge.

It just means that the deal has been ongoing and they have agreed on the assets that are to transfer. I'm sure that any fundamental changes will have been discussed but ultimately, it will have been First making those changes.
 

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https://www.firstbus.co.uk/south-east-and-central-scotland/plan-journey/business-update


Business Update​

Business Update: The Sale of First Scotland East​

First Bus has agreed to sell its First Scotland East business and all its routes in the area to McGill’s Group.

The sale, which will complete later in September, includes all First Bus depots in Livingston, Larbert, Bannockburn and Balfron, as well as the Edinburgh open-top bus operation Bright Bus Tours. It also includes all buses which currently operate in the region and approximately 550 staff.

First Bus will remain a strong presence ifn Scotland with its long-established businesses in Aberdeen and Greater Glasgow and is concentrating on driving passenger recovery and growth across both networks following the pandemic. This includes supporting customers with innovative pricing and ticketing options and the introduction of new technology such as Tap On Tap Off in Glasgow and Tap & Cap in Aberdeen.

First Bus is making great strides towards its commitment to a fully zero emission fleet by 2035. This includes £35m investment in green transport, in partnership with Transport Scotland, at its Scotstoun and Aberdeen depots.



Please see below FAQ Section, which will be continually updated as information is made available:​


What is changing?
First Bus has agreed to sell it’s First Scotland East business and all of its routes in the area to McGill’s Group.
What does this mean for me?
Your services will continue to be operated by First Bus until 19th September, following which McGill’s Group will take over the full running of our Scotland East Network.
When will this change happen, and how long will it take?
There is a two-week transition plan in place until Monday 19th September 2022. Alongside McGill’s Group, we will keep customers and our own teams at the forefront of our thoughts throughout and continue to update them on any developments.
Will there be any disruption during the handover period?
We do not anticipate any disruption to scheduled services during the handover period and will endeavour to minimise the impact of this on our customers.
What will happen to season tickets – will they remain valid?
All tickets will be valid during the two-week handover period, following which an acceptance will be in place with the new operator, and communication will follow from them.
Will there be any changes to local bus routes following the sale?
The network will be transferred to McGill’s Group in its current form. Any subsequent network changes would be a matter for McGill’s Group to consider.
Will any recently cancelled bus routes be reinstated with McGill’s?
The network will be transferred to McGill’s Group in its current form. Any subsequent network changes would be a matter for McGill’s Group to consider.
If customer’s have signed up to the Under-22’s Free Travel Scheme, do they need to re-apply through McGill’s?
No: The Scottish Government’s Young Person’s Free Bus Travel Scheme is valid on all bus operators. McGill’s Group are part of this, so ongoing travel with current cards will be permitted.
I am currently a member of the Commuter Travel Club, how does this affect me?
All current active ticket products will continue to be valid for travel across services. Members of the Commuter Travel Club will receive a direct communication in due course.
 
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Which mean Ralph has been in control for the past two months then, which makes you wonder did he wont to give up the Council contracts 20,63,68. Plus was he behide the cuts on route 51/52


Do you have a link to either piece?

The one not shown above is below:-

https://news.firstbus.co.uk/news/fi...f-scotland-east-business-to-mcgills-bus-group

First Bus announces sale of Scotland East business to McGill's Bus Group​

  • McGill’s Group will take ownership of the business from 19th September
  • Both businesses pledge to put all staff and customers at the forefront of their plans
First Bus has agreed to sell its First Scotland East business and all its routes in the region to McGill’s Group.
The sale, which will complete later in September, includes all First Bus depots in Livingston, Larbert, Bannockburn, Balfron, as well as the Edinburgh open-top bus operation Bright Bus Tours. It also includes over 200 buses which currently operate in the region by approximately 550 staff.
First Bus has a strong presence in Scotland with its long-established businesses across Aberdeen and Greater Glasgow and is concentrating on driving passenger recovery following the pandemic, alongside growth across both networks. This includes supporting customers with innovative pricing and ticketing options and the introduction of new technology such as Tap On Tap Off (TOTO) in Glasgow and Tap & Cap in Aberdeen.
First Bus is making great strides towards its commitment to a fully zero emission fleet by 2035. This includes £35m investment in green transport, in partnership with Transport Scotland, at its Scotstoun and Aberdeen depots.
Duncan Cameron, Managing Director of First Bus Scotland, said:
“I’d like to thank our employees for their continued hard work to deliver the best experience possible for our customers across the First Scotland East business. We will be supporting them fully as they transfer to their new employer.
“This sale is part of a strategic refocusing of our Scotland business with significant investment in zero emission buses in Glasgow and Aberdeen.
“As we’ve seen from their successful purchase of Xplore Dundee in recent times, McGill’s is an historic and trusted bus operator brand within Scotland and one we believe to be a safe pair of hands to take the Scotland East business forward successfully.
“We will continue to operate our services as usual until the handover date, working closely with our local authority partners and demonstrating our commitment to our customers through the service we offer them.”
McGill’s Group said it was committed to working with staff and local stakeholders to build the best bus service in the region. Owned by leading Scottish businessmen Sandy and James Easdale, McGill’s has invested heavily in its business and services, including the recent purchase of Xplore Dundee from National Express and its partnership with international coach operator FlixBus for longer distance routes.
James Easdale, chairman of McGill’s Bus Group, said: “Everyone at McGill’s Group is excited about welcoming Scotland East into our stable and the opportunities that lie ahead. Our team are passionate about using our expertise to build the business in the years ahead so we can retain and attract new passengers across the region. We’re pleased the opportunity has arisen to acquire the business and we appreciate the efforts of First towards ensuring a smooth transition.”
Ralph Roberts, CEO of McGill’s Bus Group, said: “We would like to welcome all First Scotland East employees into the McGill’s family. In the weeks and months ahead, we will be engaging with our new colleagues for feedback and also listening to the views of local stakeholders as we seek to deliver the best bus service possible. We firmly believe that we can combine the advantages of the McGill’s Group with unique local transport brands and we will be announcing further details on that post-completion.”
ENDS

Notes to editors​

For more information, please contact Craig Dennett, PR Manager for First Bus Scotland at [email protected]
About First Bus

First Bus is one of the UK’s largest bus operators. Making journeys easier for our customers, we were the first national bus operator to accept contactless card payments across all of our services and our First Bus App is voted ‘best in class’ amongst UK bus operators. Our most recent investments are in new, state-of-the-art buses across our key networks.
We work proactively with our local authority partners, making a positive impact on air quality, tackling congestion and improving customer experience. We are focused on First Bus becoming a leader in the transition to a low-carbon future and are committed to operating a zero-emission bus fleet by 2035; we have pledged not to purchase any new diesel buses after December 2022. We also operate the Aircoach network in Ireland.
First Bus is a division of FirstGroup.
For more information on First Bus: news-scot.firstbus.co.uk

About McGill’s

Founded in 1936, McGill's has depots in Greenock, Inchinnan, Johnstone and Dundee. In late 2020, McGill’s purchased Xplore Dundee from National Express.
McGill’s prides itself on high-level customer service and invests heavily in the new vehicles, driver training and development. The company has an in-house driver training academies in Johnstone and Dundee.
McGill’s worked closely with the Prince's Trust on the 'Get Into Bus Engineering' scheme, to allow younger workers an opportunity to become engineers with McGill's. The company is also accredited as an Investor in Young People.
McGill's Bus Service Limited is registered in Scotland (SC027238).
About Sandy and James Easdale:
Sandy and James Easdale have a wide range of business interests spanning transport, manufacturing, commercial property and land investment.
The Easdale family owns McGill's Group, the largest independent UK bus operator. Previously serving Glasgow, Inverclyde and the west of Scotland, McGill's Group expanded east in 2020 when it purchased Xplore Dundee from National Express.
The brothers are also spearheading more than £800million of major property developments, including a 130-acre site at the former Tullis Russell papermill in Glenrothes and the rejuvenation of the 70-acre former IBM site in Greenock. They are also driving forward the redevelopment of the iconic former Watt Brothers store at the heart of Glasgow.
In 2022, Sandy and James Easdale were named on The Sunday Times Rich List for the first time, placed at 129 in the UK wealth list and eighth in Scotland.
 

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It sounds very promising and from experience travelling on their buses in Glasgow they do have a decent fleet and potentially any new investments will be electric.

This will be a blow to Lothian Country and I’m guessing that we will see some changes there in the near future.
Absolutely. I think this will be a very promising thing for ex-FSE territory. First had all but given up. This may inject some faith back in public transport if McGills get it right. Some Yutongs in and around West Lothian/Midlands would be miles better than the ageing stock they have.
 

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McGill's Buses announce takeover of First Bus East in expansion plans​

The sale included all First Bus depots in Livingston, Larbert, Bannockburn and Balfron as well as Bright Bus Tours in Edinburgh.
McGill’s Buses to take over First Bus Scotland East operation in Edinburgh, Stirling and Falkirk
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McGill’s Buses has taken over the Scotland East operations of First Bus – including open-top tours in Edinburgh.
The sale, which will complete later in September, includes all First Bus depots in Livingston, Larbert, Bannockburn and Balfron, as well as the Edinburgh open-top bus operation Bright Bus Tours.
It also includes all buses which currently operate in the region and approximately 550 staff, reducing First to operating in Aberdeen and Glasgow.
“This sale is part of a strategic refocusing of our Scottish businesses with significant investment in zero emission buses in Glasgow and Aberdeen,” said Duncan Cameron, managing director of First Bus Scotland.
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McGill’s, which currently operates in Inverclyde, Glasgow and Renfrewshire, recently also took over Xplore Dundee from National Express and partnered with coach operator FlixBus for longer distance routes.
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First said its “strong presence” in the country will move forward with a focus on driving “passenger recovery and growth across both networks” in the aftermath of the Covid-19 pandemic.
“We firmly believe that we can combine the advantages of the McGill’s Group with unique local transport brands and we will be announcing further details on that post-completion,” said CEO of McGill’s, Ralph Roberts.
He added: “We would like to welcome all First Scotland East employees into the McGill’s family.
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“In the weeks and months ahead, we will be engaging with our new colleagues for feedback and also listening to the views of local stakeholders as we seek to deliver the best bus service possible.”
James Easdale, chairman of McGill’s Bus Group, said: “Our team are passionate about using our expertise to build the business in the years ahead so we can retain and attract new passengers across the region.
“We’re pleased the opportunity has arisen to acquire the business and we appreciate the efforts of First Bus towards ensuring a smooth transition.”
 
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