Frequently Requested Diagrams Updates

[MidnightFlyer]

It does happen certainly, however the 150 tends to be detached (and left) at Shrewsbury, leaving just the 158 to continue east...

We should probably get back on topic.

 

[PHILIPE]

That's what I saw :/. Don't know if it was rare or what. I've heard of other people seeing 150s on this line as well

If so, would definitele not worked beyond Salop. No traction knowledge or ERTMS fitted. They did work in pre Wales and Border days when Central operated the route.

 

[SprinterMan]

The ScotRail fife circle 67 only has 1 diagram now, not 2.

The ATW WagEx is 67 & Mark 3 now rather than 57 & Mark 2, and is now the 0533 HHD-CDF and 1821 CDF-HHD.

The operator of the 57 on the VT 57+390 drag is now exclusively VT after ATW's locos went back to VT.

The pretendolino now only uses FL 90s I think.

The Norwich 321 diagram would be a nice addition to this list, which is 1702 LST-NRW and 1930 NRW-LST.

The morning wherry lines service that is operated by an EMT 158 would be a great addition too, but I'm not sure what service that it operates.

Adam

 

[Techniquest]

That, back in June at least, started with the 0536/0542 Norwich to Lowestoft. I mentioned it in my ALR trip report if that's of any use!

 

[ATW Alex 101]

The morning wherry lines service that is operated by an EMT 158 would be a great addition too, but I'm not sure what service that it operates.

Adam

You say you don't know what service it operates but do you know if it's an ECS or a passenger service, quite an interesting one...

 

[Eagle]

You say you don't know what service it operates but do you know if it's an ECS or a passenger service, quite an interesting one...

Couldn't possibly be an ECS, geographically speaking. (Wherry lines are Norwich to Yarmouth and Lowestoft, hardly somewhere an EMT unit would end up normally.)

 

[SprinterMan]

You say you don't know what service it operates but do you know if it's an ECS or a passenger service, quite an interesting one...

It is certainly a passenger service, I think it is a carry-over from CT days when NX started operating the early morning CBG-NRW run and in exchange an early morning Wherry lines services was run with a CT unit.

Here we go, these are timetabled for "Class 158 - 90mph" instead of "Class 158 - 100mph" which means a 170 or "Class 150/153/155/156 - 75mph" :
http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/G23794/2012/11/6
http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/G23802/2012/11/6

Adam

 

[12CSVT]

Info request - are any Leeds / Bradford - Ilkley / Skipton services currently diagrammed for 321s or 322s ?

 

[theblackwatch]

Info request - are any Leeds / Bradford - Ilkley / Skipton services currently diagrammed for 321s or 322s ?

From Rail Express earlier this year, I'm not aware of any changes since:

Diagram 1:
2S09 07.01 Skipton-Bradford FS
2D34 07.46 Bradford FS-Ilkley
2D37 08.24 Ilkley-Bradford FS
2P27 09.04 Bradford FS-Leeds
2V18 09.32 Leeds-Ilkley
2V21 10.10 Ilkley-Leeds
2P38 11.10 Leeds-Bradford FS
2S22 11.41 Bradford FS-Skipton
2S31 12.32 Skipton-Bradford FS
2D56 13.16 Bradford FS-Ilkley
2D59 13.51 Ilkley-Bradford FS
2P51 14.31 Bradford FS-Leeds
Diagram 2:
2V71 07.57 Ilkley-Leeds
2S40 16.11 Bradford FS-Skipton
2S49 17.03 Skipton-Bradford FS
2D74 17.46 Bradford FS-Ilkley
Diagram 3:
2H99 07.39 Skipton-Leeds
2H94 17.39 Leeds-Skipton
Diagram 4:
2V50 17.16 Leeds-Ilkley
2D75 17.51 Ilkley-Bradford FS
2P67 18.27 Bradford FS-Leeds
2P70 19.10 Leeds-Bradford FS
2D80 19.41 Bradford FS-Ilkley
2V63 20.21 Ilkley-Leeds

(These are Monday-Friday.)

 

[Tomonthetrain]

Anyone have the new FGW 180 diagrams?

 

[headshot119]

The Virgin loco hauled (1K89, 1D83, 1A55) are no more after today / yesterday.

Has anyone got any requests for Greater Anglia diagrams?

 

[43074]

Does anyone have the Greater Anglia 15x and 170 diagrams?

The EMT/GA 158 diagram is below:

05:36 Norwich - Lowestoft
06:35 Lowestoft - Norwich
07:57 Norwich - Liverpool Lime Street
13:52 Liverpool Lime Street - Norwich
19:33 Norwich - Great Yarmouth
20:17 Great Yarmouth - Norwich

 

[SprinterMan]

ScotRail Fife Circle 67 diagrams:

2K01 06:37 Edinburgh Waverley to Glenrothes With Thornton
2K18 07:36 Cardenden to Edinburgh Waverley
2G02 07:46 Glenrothes With Thornton to Edinburgh Waverley
2G13 17:08 Edinburgh Waverley to Glenrothes With Thornton
2L69 17:19 Edinburgh Waverley to Cardenden
2K14 18:15 Glenrothes With Thornton to Edinburgh Waverley

Greater Anglia 321 Norwich diagram:
1P48 17:02 London Liverpool Street to Norwich
1P65 19:30 Norwich to London Liverpool Street

Chiltern Silver 67 Diagrams:
Monday - Friday
1H17 07:44 PRR - MYB
1H19 06:09 KID - MYB
1H22 06:38 SBJ - MYB
1H21 07:44 BAN - MYB
1H44 10:55 BMO - MYB
1H53 12:55 BMO - MYB
1H65 15:55 BMO - MYB

1R16 08:45 MYB - BMO
1R22 10:15 MYB - BMO
1R34 13:15 MYB - BMO
1R48 16:47 MYB - BMO
1K50 17:15 MYB - KID
1K54 18:15 MYB - KID
1U56 18:50 MYB - BAN

Saturdays
1H06 07:12 KID - MYB
1H13 09:10 KID - MYB
1H24 13:55 BMO - MYB

1R25 11:06 MYB - BMO
1G49 17:06 MYB - BMO
1G53 18:06 MYB - BMO

Sundays
1H31 10:13 BMO - MYB
1R54 18:33 MYB - BMO

BAN - Banbury
BMO - Birmingham Moor St
KID - Kidderminster
MYB - London Marylebone
PRR - Princes Risborough
SBJ - Stourbridge Jn

Arriva WAG 67 Diagram:
1V31 05:33 Holyhead to Cardiff Central
1W94 18:21 Cardiff Central to Holyhead

 

[gerryuk]

XC HST diagrams - copied from my post on www.hstgen.co.uk.... WTT from Dec '11

Sundays:
08:10 Leeds – Plymouth; 14:23 Plymouth - Edinburgh
09:00 Leeds – Plymouth; 15:23 Plymouth - York
08:50 Edinburgh – Plymouth; 18:23 Plymouth – Leeds
13:23 Plymouth – Edinburgh

Mondays to Fridays:
06:00 Leeds – Plymouth; 12:23 Plymouth – Glasgow
06:32 York – Plymouth; 13:23 Plymouth – Edinburgh (Mondays ONLY)
06:06 Edinburgh- Plymouth; 15:23 Plymouth – Leeds
06:32 Dundee – Plymouth; 17:23 Plymouth – Leeds (Fridays ONLY)
13:08 Edinburgh- Plymouth (Fridays ONLY)

Saturdays:
06:00 Leeds – Plymouth; 12:23 Plymouth – Glasgow
06:32 Dundee – Plymouth; 17:23 Plymouth – Leeds

Can I ask how does it work crewing these services? Will the driver pick up the train in Leeds and drive it down all the way to Plymouth. Do they then have a brake then bring another train back up to Leeds with another train crew taking over to take the train to Edinburgh?
How far down will drivers from Edinburgh bring the train before they have a brake then drive another train back up?
I am assuming that there are cross country drivers in Plymouth, how far up the country do they drive the train before changing?
What is the longest route drivers actually drive without a brake (station to station) on cross country?
If a driver from say Edinburgh takes a train down to say Sheffield do the on board conductors work the same pattern as the drivers on these routes or do the work to a different schedule?
If say a crew bring down a train from Edinburgh to Sheffield and the train they are supposed to crew on their return has broken down in Birmingham do they just go back to Edinburgh as passengers on the next available train?
I am using Sheffield as a example as I don’t actually think they have crews their. Where are all these cross country trains crewed from?
Just interested in how all this works on cross country. Thanks

 

[Pumbaa]

XC have depots everywhere.

The longest driving turns I can think of on XC are Bournemouth/Southampton - New St.

 

[SprinterMan]

Timetables for GA's summer drags:
http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y15899/2013/5/25
http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y11214/2013/5/25
http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y11212/2013/5/25
http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y11215/2013/5/25
http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y11213/2013/5/25
http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y15897/2013/5/25
Adam

 

[SpDr60]

Hello to everybody,

my real name is stefan i am from germany so first sorry for my not verry propper english.

I'm working for DB Netz in Karlsruhe Germany making timetables for railstations, so if you have any question about german trains or DB do not hesistate and ask me, i will try to answer your question as best as possible.

Now to my questions:

does any body know the 2013 spring to summer diagrams for the XC HST and Turbostar and could you please be so kind and post it here?

Thanks and with kind reagards from the black forrest.

Stefan

 

[CC 72100]

Hello to everybody,

my real name is stefan i am from germany so first sorry for my not verry propper english.

I'm working for DB Netz in Karlsruhe Germany making timetables for railstations, so if you have any question about german trains or DB do not hesistate and ask me, i will try to answer your question as best as possible.

Now to my questions:

does any body know the 2013 spring to summer diagrams for the XC HST and Turbostar and could you please be so kind and post it here?

Thanks and with kind reagards from the black forrest.

Stefan

XC HST diagrams: http://www.125group.org.uk/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=30 Can be found on this page along with all other operators' diagrams

XC Turbostars: Nottingham - Cardiff services for sure, other people with greater knowledge in the area hopefully will be able to provide more info.

 

[SpDr60]

Thanks for the information so far

 

[MidnightFlyer]

XC Turbostars also work Birmingham New St-Leicester-Stansted Airport services, alongside Cardiff-Birmingham New St-Nottingham trains. None are booked to work former VXC services. (If you don't know, the current XC franchise is made up of the 'proper' inter-city routes formerley under Virgin, and more localised inter-city routes, which the Turbostars are used on, formerley Central Trains.)