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Hmm, the company bang on about it being the biggest ever survey, but they've only looked at 10 routes in to London, not including the ECML or GWML.
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Assume there was a little bit of tongue in cheek
Deerfold - I think they've just gone for the slightly more local commuter routes rather than the longer distance routes that commuters happen to pile onto as well
I don't see the difference between picking the commuter section from Bedford to London rather than Huntingdon - London or Milton Keynes to London but not Reading to London. All these lines go much further out but have substantial local flows.
Interesting!
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"First" 319's have it now - or some of them - but a good number of the "white" 319's are bereft.
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This is what it looks like on a 319
(picture (c) Mark Bowerbank, used with permission)
(picture (c) Mark Bowerbank, used with permission)
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Letchworth may very well see them as well.
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Their customer information is definite two steps
back fron FCC. Claimed good service tonight on Welwyn route when 2 consecutive trains cancelled.
On train up person sat next to me surprise that train stopped at Finsbury Park as driver at welwyn garden city had advised passengers to change there for Finsbury park.
back fron FCC. Claimed good service tonight on Welwyn route when 2 consecutive trains cancelled.
On train up person sat next to me surprise that train stopped at Finsbury Park as driver at welwyn garden city had advised passengers to change there for Finsbury park.
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This is what it looks like on a 319
(picture (c) Mark Bowerbank, used with permission)
See I think it suits the 319s.. the 377's its placed higher and to me, looks a bit odd.
I was always supportive of FCC, and felt that especially towards the end, that they did a pretty good job.
I had my first experience of the new Franchise on Friday evening, heading back to St Albans. The train I was due to get at St Pancras was delayed by 10 minutes, not a major delay, but there was no announcement of the delay, and there was no explanation given for my train being late, or why other services, in both directions, were also suffering some delay.
FCC, despite their pitfalls, always gave out information and explanation for delays in my experience, so this was a bit annoying.
Of course, GoVia need to be given time to settle in.
I had my first experience of the new Franchise on Friday evening, heading back to St Albans. The train I was due to get at St Pancras was delayed by 10 minutes, not a major delay, but there was no announcement of the delay, and there was no explanation given for my train being late, or why other services, in both directions, were also suffering some delay.
FCC, despite their pitfalls, always gave out information and explanation for delays in my experience, so this was a bit annoying.
Of course, GoVia need to be given time to settle in.
They shouldn't really though. They should have carried on as is, business as usual, allowing staff to do what they had got good at - then worked on introducing changes, tweaking things etc.
Or dare I say it, but perhaps the outgoing management wasn't as useless as is always assumed (that managers are clueless)?
Or dare I say it, but perhaps the outgoing management wasn't as useless as is always assumed (that managers are clueless)?
I know, I know, I just felt kind of bad for moaning, and didn't want to look like the type which bashes all TOC's.
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Surely they would've thought about what the logo looks like on FCC pink?! It not like its a surprise what colour the units currently are?! (Well by the looks of it it might have been...)
I must admit the new website is certainly a massive step back from the final FCC website.. It comes across as being designed by a 13 year old for a 5 year old to use, has a distinct lack of any information about train running (not that we really get much info anymore anyway!) and is generally poor to use on most devices..
Shame really, the FCC website had only just had a (very!) large amount of money spent on updating it to be how it was at the end.
Shame really, the FCC website had only just had a (very!) large amount of money spent on updating it to be how it was at the end.
The final release of the TSGN franchise agreement, sadly info about the train fleets have been omitted, and i don't think there is anything major to report, just 661 pages of spew.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/govia-thameslink
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/govia-thameslink
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The final release of the TSGN franchise agreement, sadly info about the train fleets have been omitted, and i don't think there is anything major to report, just 661 pages of spew.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/govia-thameslink
Just mention of the 387/2 and 19x 365 (possibility hinting at numbers remaining) getting energy monitors along with all dual voltage Electrostars.
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The final release of the TSGN franchise agreement, sadly info about the train fleets have been omitted, and i don't think there is anything major to report, just 661 pages of spew.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/govia-thameslink
All redacted for "commercial reasons" ....
i suspect the omitted fleet data etc is due to awaiting the 387/2 announcement.
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My car is in for some work so Thameslink have a week to persuade me to switch back to rail for commutiing.
Day One : outward journey ok -even got a seat!
return - 16:02 ex West Hampstead all stations to St Albans cancelled (no crew available)
following train 16:20 formed of four cars.
Not a great start.
Day One : outward journey ok -even got a seat!
return - 16:02 ex West Hampstead all stations to St Albans cancelled (no crew available)
following train 16:20 formed of four cars.
Not a great start.
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You were lucky - you obviously missed the couple of cancellations due to lack of train queue, delays caused by signal problems at Kentish Town and the trespass incident at Radlett at lunchtime.
My journey in was ok this morning but there were huge queues for tickets at St Albans. My train home left London on time, I got a seat, but by St Albans we were 9 minutes down. The cause of this delay was not explained, nor was an apology offered.
I was due to catch the 11:02 this morning from St Albans, but due to the trespassing, it was cancelled and I jumped on a delayed service.
They seemed to deal with the recovery from the trespass okay, and St Albans was actually relatively quiet by the time I got there, however there was a lot of delayed and a few cancelled services.
They seemed to deal with the recovery from the trespass okay, and St Albans was actually relatively quiet by the time I got there, however there was a lot of delayed and a few cancelled services.
And 19x 365 to get ERTMS, along with 17x 377/5.
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Interesting. Hadn't had a chance to read it all yet properly.
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